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October 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM #20193October 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM #752567
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ParticipantWow, MMHS beating out LJHS. That’s a first.
October 13, 2012 at 4:33 PM #752568outtamojo
ParticipantMMHS beat San Marcos High- oh the calamity.
October 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM #752573ParticipantOne thing I found interesting is that SRHS blew away ALL of the schools in Poway Unified. If I was a resident or buyer at Stonebridge, I probably would have preferred that my kids go to SRHS instead of any HS in Poway Unified.
Another thing interesting is… here are all the HS in Poway Unified:
Del Norte High 865
Mt. Carmel High 821
Poway High 868
Rancho Bernardo High 848
Westview High 872Here are all the HS in San Dieguito Union High too:
Canyon Crest Academy 917
La Costa Canyon High 834
San Dieguito High Academy 852
Torrey Pines High 888Here are the top 7 HS in SDUSD:
Scripps Ranch High 900
Preuss School UCSD 892
Kearny International Business 887
Mt. Everest Academy 873
San Diego International Studies 871
Mira Mesa High 861
La Jolla High 854It seems like the top 7 HS in SDUSD does a decent job in out placing Poway Unified HS. Not to mention the fact that the top 4 does better than Poway’s best, which is Westview. Then there’s the coveted San Dieguito. SDUSD’s top 4 average out higher than SDUH 4 HS. What’s also funny is, MMHS, which is #6 in SDUSD scores better than 2 out of the 4 HS in SDUH.
October 14, 2012 at 6:33 AM #752574Essbee
ParticipantPreuss school is very selective and you have to fit a certain demographic profile (something like unrepresented minority, 1st generation going to college) to enroll your kids there. They did great — but I can’t enroll my kids there even if I want to.
Kearny International Business and San Diego International Studies are “schools within a school” – only a select part of the student body of the entire high school is participating. I’m sure if you took something like the La Jolla HS seminar and called it “La Jolla International,” their score would be higher, too. Finally, I believe that Mt. Everest Academy is a charter for homeschoolers or something like that.
Still, good job to all of the schools listed. My own SDUSD alma mater is not listed, but did OK as well.
Also, re: PUSD, you left them in alphabetical order rather than sorting by score as you did for SDUSD. Not sure how you say that “the top 7 in SDUSD does a decent job in outplacing PUSD.” Leaving only the traditional high schools which count the entire student body, only Scripps Ranch beats Westview, Poway, and Del Norte.
October 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM #752575ParticipantAlright, if you take exception to those special schools in SDUSD, lets look at the top 5 traditional HS in SDUSD.
Scripps Ranch High 900
Mira Mesa High 861
La Jolla High 854
University City High 825
Point Loma High 812Now, lets reorder the PUSD:
Westview High 872
Poway High 868
Del Norte High 865
Rancho Bernardo High 848
Mt. Carmel High 821So, the top SDUSD school score 28 points higher than the top PUSD school. The 5th SDUSD school score 9 points lower than the 5th PUSD school. So, SDUSD have a bigger varriance than PUSD. Now, the average for PUSD is still slightly higher. PUSD average is 854 while SDUSD average is 850. That’s less than 0.5% different. Not a big deal to me.
When you count those special schools w/in SDUSD, then the top 7 schools does out pace PUSD. I don’t know why you take exception to those special schools w/in SDUSD. If you live in SDUSD and want to, you can apply to get your kids into those special schools, minus the Preuss School. If you just count traditional HS, then SDUSD, IMHO, is on par with PUSD.
October 14, 2012 at 9:35 AM #752576ocrenter
Participant[quote=AN]Alright, if you take exception to those special schools in SDUSD, lets look at the top 5 traditional HS in SDUSD.
Scripps Ranch High 900
Mira Mesa High 861
La Jolla High 854
University City High 825
Point Loma High 812Now, lets reorder the PUSD:
Westview High 872
Poway High 868
Del Norte High 865
Rancho Bernardo High 848
Mt. Carmel High 821So, the top SDUSD school score 28 points higher than the top PUSD school. The 5th SDUSD school score 9 points lower than the 5th PUSD school. So, SDUSD have a bigger varriance than PUSD. Now, the average for PUSD is still slightly higher. PUSD average is 854 while SDUSD average is 850. That’s less than 0.5% different. Not a big deal to me.
When you count those special schools w/in SDUSD, then the top 7 schools does out pace PUSD. I don’t know why you take exception to those special schools w/in SDUSD. If you live in SDUSD and want to, you can apply to get your kids into those special schools, minus the Preuss School. If you just count traditional HS, then SDUSD, IMHO, is on par with PUSD.[/quote]
SDUSD north of the 52 is on par with PUSD.
October 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM #752579NotCranky
ParticipantIt doesn’t matter what the school scores are, all pigg children will grow up to be self made men and women just like us.
I’ve just always wanted to say that. For a group that thinks all the losers did it to themselves, and that all the winners are self made, some of us sure do worry about schools a lot.
October 14, 2012 at 3:26 PM #752591Participant[quote=AN]Alright, if you take exception to those special schools in SDUSD, lets look at the top 5 traditional HS in SDUSD.
Scripps Ranch High 900
Mira Mesa High 861
La Jolla High 854
University City High 825
Point Loma High 812
[/quote]HEY, wait… you missed my alma mater:
Patrick Henry High 815[quote=AN]
When you count those special schools w/in SDUSD, then the top 7 schools does out pace PUSD. I don’t know why you take exception to those special schools w/in SDUSD. If you live in SDUSD and want to, you can apply to get your kids into those special schools, minus the Preuss School.[/quote]You can count those if you wish, but I think it’s silly to do so. You would need to average the rest of the school of Kearny and San Diego HS in with those scores to get the real picture of the culture of that school. I’m sure you could take a subset of Westview HS, give it a name (“Westview International”) and get an average in the 900s.
Anyway, I’m fine with you making this argument that the top half of SDUSD is on par with the entire PUSD. I grew up in SDUSD and attended the seminar program at Hearst Elementary and Lewis Jr HS, and then had a very strong education with 8 AP classes at Patrick Henry HS. I got to be a bit of a “big fish in a little pond” and it served me well. In fact, having recently moved to PUSD, I have some concerns that my own kids could get lost in sea of high achievers… time shall tell!
October 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM #752593flyer
ParticipantMy kids are grown, and went to private schools, but it’s still always interesting to see these scores from my perspective–to see how they play out in “real world” success. For my kids and their peers, so far, it’s been about 50/50–even among those who chose the most marketable majors in college.
A friend’s wife is a teacher in Northern Cal, and she recently shared the article below with her soon-to-be graduating high school seniors. Even though the article is directed toward college seniors–it still applies. Some of you might enjoy reading it. . .
October 14, 2012 at 9:47 PM #752607Participant[quote=Essbee]
HEY, wait… you missed my alma mater:
Patrick Henry High 815[/quote]You’re right, I missed Patrick Henry. I also missed San Diego SCPA. San Diego SCPA have a total of 1140 students, which is pretty close to the student size of Mt. Carmel and Del Norte. It actually have more students than LJHS. Their score is also 820. So, with Patrick Henry and SD SCPA, the average is probably even closer to PUSD, but I think PUSD average still have a slight advantage.
[quote=Essbee]Anyway, I’m fine with you making this argument that the top half of SDUSD is on par with the entire PUSD. I grew up in SDUSD and attended the seminar program at Hearst Elementary and Lewis Jr HS, and then had a very strong education with 8 AP classes at Patrick Henry HS. I got to be a bit of a “big fish in a little pond” and it served me well. In fact, having recently moved to PUSD, I have some concerns that my own kids could get lost in sea of high achievers… time shall tell![/quote]I wouldn’t worry too much about your kids’ getting lost in a sea of high achievers. The number doesn’t show there are any more high achievers in PUSD schools than the top 5 HS in SDUSD. If your kid can be a “big fish in a small pond” in the top 5 SDUSD HS, then he probably will be just as big of a fish in PUSD as well.October 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM #752610ParticipantAN, I completely agree with your comment to the other poster. That’s exactly the way my wife and I felt when we were raising our children.
Whatever “pond” you’re in, my wife and I had parents who were all about living your dreams–not just getting “a job”–and we’ve tried to pass that same philosophy along to our children. We have two who have made it to that point in life, and one to go!
October 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM #752612Participant[quote=AN]You’re right, I missed Patrick Henry. I also missed San Diego SCPA. San Diego SCPA have a total of 1140 students, which is pretty close to the student size of Mt. Carmel and Del Norte. It actually have more students than LJHS. Their score is also 820.[/quote]
Just another FYI… San Diego SCPA is a grade 6-12 school. I don’t know how many are in the middle school versus the high school.
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I wouldn’t worry too much about your kids’ getting lost in a sea of high achievers. The number doesn’t show there are any more high achievers in PUSD schools than the top 5 HS in SDUSD. If your kid can be a “big fish in a small pond” in the top 5 SDUSD HS, then he probably will be just as big of a fish in PUSD as well.[/quote]Hopefully, you are right. My kids haven’t even started kindergarten yet, so only time will tell!
October 15, 2012 at 12:19 AM #752614Participant[quote=Essbee]Hopefully, you are right. My kids haven’t even started kindergarten yet, so only time will tell![/quote]Here are some anecdotal stories. My wife and her HS friends all graduated from a HS w/ a API rank of 1. So, it’s basically as bad as you can get. All of her closest friends are valedictorians or very close to it. One went to UCLA, 2 went to UCSD, and 1 went to BU. So, just because they were huge fishes in a tiny pond, that didn’t stop them from going on and achieving what they set out to. So, your kids will do just fine, as long as you’re by their side to push them and guide them.
Also, there’s no reason to be too concern about HS API right now, since your kids are so young. It’s fun to talk about it, but I wouldn’t worry too much. An area can change, API can change, etc. by the time your kids reach HS level. Maybe, you might move before they reach HS too, so, no need to fret now.
October 15, 2012 at 4:20 AM #752615ParticipantNot to interrupt, but just wanted to interject one other thought–since we’ve kind of “been there, done that.”
Eventually, many of your concerns as a parent will all boil down to how big your kids dreams are–because that’s really what going to school is all about–achieving your dreams.
If they have big dreams and want to live life on a grand scale as ours did and do–you have many extreme challenges as a parent to try to help them get there. In our case, two of our kids wanted MBA’s and corporate jobs in Hollywood–which worked out–and the other is just about finished with medical school.
When you get to that point in life, you should finally see the payoff for all of your years of hard work as a parent–and, believe me, it is very exciting when, somehow, it all comes together! Enjoy the journey!!
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