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November 23, 2016 at 12:11 PM #804073November 23, 2016 at 12:17 PM #804074
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Guest[quote=bearishgurl][quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Don’t bother me no more.[/quote]FIH/brian. from your last several posts, I gather you are suffering terribly from sore-loseritis. It’s okay … this condition has become quite common of late among the uber-liberal/progressive set.
Say, I have a deplorable friend in SD County whose sow had cute little pink piglets. Are you in SD and if so, would you like to borrow one for TK weekend? They’re tame enough to sit on your lap while you pet them over and over and get out all of your micro-agression through love and compassion. You will also get the opportunity to bottle-feed it. Let me know :=)[/quote]
Yes. I’m still In the anger stage. Buddhist zen not helping.
Anyway, I’m angry at those rust belt deplorables. Let ‘me have what they want. I’m done wanting the best for people, if they don’t want it themselves.
I can understand AN wanting vouchers for his kids. Good for him. I don’t think he’ll teach them intelligent design. Fuck the parents and kids who do. They deserve what is coming to them.
November 23, 2016 at 12:19 PM #804075an
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]flu, she’s actually not anti-common core. Although, she’s not pro-common core either. So, I’m assuming she can be swayed one way or the other. But the biggest thing about her is that she push for private school voucher. That would be F*cking AWESOME if she can get it done before 2017-2018 school year.[/quote]AN, I thought you previously posted here that you live in an attendance area of awesome public schools![/quote]Not as awesome as the private school my kids could be going to.[/quote]You DO realize that “school vouchers” will only pay a portion of private school tuition (unless they are Catholic or Protestant – Grades 1-8 only, which tend to be less expensive). I would surmise that you will only receive 1/3 to 1/4 of the tuition from a voucher to pay for any non-denominational well-known private school in SD and possibly only enough to pay 1/5 to 1/6 of the (exorbitant) tuition for private HS through your kid(s) voucher.[/quote]Wow, your crystal ball is working that well?
November 23, 2016 at 12:24 PM #804077
CoronitaParticipant[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]flu, she’s actually not anti-common core. Although, she’s not pro-common core either. So, I’m assuming she can be swayed one way or the other. But the biggest thing about her is that she push for private school voucher. That would be F*cking AWESOME if she can get it done before 2017-2018 school year.[/quote]AN, I thought you previously posted here that you live in an attendance area of awesome public schools![/quote]Not as awesome as the private school my kids could be going to.[/quote]You DO realize that “school vouchers” will only pay a portion of private school tuition (unless they are Catholic or Protestant – Grades 1-8 only, which tend to be less expensive). I would surmise that you will only receive 1/3 to 1/4 of the tuition from a voucher to pay for any non-denominational well-known private school in SD and possibly only enough to pay 1/5 to 1/6 of the (exorbitant) tuition for private HS through your kid(s) voucher.[/quote]Wow, your crystal ball is working that well?[/quote]
Mine’s been malfunctioning since Trump won and the dow reversed course….
Can I borrow yours? Your’s seem to be working very well these days. I’m serious… You’re on a roll 🙂November 23, 2016 at 12:25 PM #804079Participant[quote=flu]
At public dollar expenses!!!!! Voucher systems could land you in a private school that isn’t required to use common core math. lol.Actually, I was talking about common core math with a bunch of parents recently. A lot of the parents that had older siblings were complaining about how the younger sibling, now a product of common core math, were well behind their siblings when they were at the same grade level. Some at the 5th grade level, still can’t do basic arithmetic, even some of the teachers mentioned it.
We never quite bought into to CCM and just did it the old school math and old school problem solving, and played lip service to the N-different ways of solving one problem, drawing a nice pretty diagram, etc. Looks like it ended getting better results. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But those are some pretty good 4-5 different “strategies” that kids come up with to solve the problem. Too bad, in most cases, none of those strategies helped kids reach the correct answer.[/quote]Public $ is already being spent on my kids’ education. If anything, I’ll be saving some tax $, since the private school I want to send my kids to charge less than what we’re paying to educate my kids in the public school.
As for common core. I actually don’t mind. I think it’s good for them to understand multiple ways to come to the same solution. I’m making my kids to the math drill that you and I did. I view that this will expand their breath in ways of learning math. That’s what my kids teacher convey as well, where we should do the math drills at home so they know the basic and what they get taught at school is more breath.
November 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM #804081Participant[quote=flu]
Mine’s been malfunctioning since Trump won and the dow reversed course….
Can I borrow yours? Your’s seem to be working very well these days. I’m serious… You’re on a roll :)[/quote]LoL, I wish mine works as well as you think it is.As for voucher, I’m freaking giddy like a kid who just got their Christmas gift early at the thought of the possibility of getting a voucher system in place w/in the next year or two.
November 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM #804080CoronitaParticipant[quote=AN][quote=flu]
At public dollar expenses!!!!! Voucher systems could land you in a private school that isn’t required to use common core math. lol.Actually, I was talking about common core math with a bunch of parents recently. A lot of the parents that had older siblings were complaining about how the younger sibling, now a product of common core math, were well behind their siblings when they were at the same grade level. Some at the 5th grade level, still can’t do basic arithmetic, even some of the teachers mentioned it.
We never quite bought into to CCM and just did it the old school math and old school problem solving, and played lip service to the N-different ways of solving one problem, drawing a nice pretty diagram, etc. Looks like it ended getting better results. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But those are some pretty good 4-5 different “strategies” that kids come up with to solve the problem. Too bad, in most cases, none of those strategies helped kids reach the correct answer.[/quote]Public $ is already being spent on my kids’ education. If anything, I’ll be saving some tax $, since the private school I want to send my kids to charge less than what we’re paying to educate my kids in the public school.
As for common core. I actually don’t mind. I think it’s good for them to understand multiple ways to come to the same solution. I’m making my kids to the math drill that you and I did. I view that this will expand their breath in ways of learning math. That’s what my kids teacher convey as well, where we should do the math drills at home so they know the basic and what they get taught at school is more breath.[/quote]
I agree on your first part. And the voucher system would be a very interesting and compelling thing…I wonder how much tuition to Bishop school would be 🙂
I’m not totally against common core. I just don’t think the way it’s taught is useful for most kids, as it adds confusion than anything else.
But that’s just me.November 23, 2016 at 12:29 PM #804082bearishgurl
ParticipantAN, if you live in an attendance area of excellent public schools, what do you have against them? Do you currently have any kids attending public school in your neighborhood?
If not, how do you know your public school will offer a sub-par education for them?
November 23, 2016 at 12:29 PM #804084CoronitaParticipant[quote=AN][quote=flu]
Mine’s been malfunctioning since Trump won and the dow reversed course….
Can I borrow yours? Your’s seem to be working very well these days. I’m serious… You’re on a roll :)[/quote]LoL, I wish mine works as well as you think it is.As for voucher, I’m freaking giddy like a kid who just got their Christmas gift early at the thought of the possibility of getting a voucher system in place w/in the next year or two.[/quote]
Don’t get excited yet. Let’s wait for what happens. I’m just freaking excited that the market isn’t tanking.
November 23, 2016 at 12:32 PM #804085Participant[quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu]
At public dollar expenses!!!!! Voucher systems could land you in a private school that isn’t required to use common core math. lol.Actually, I was talking about common core math with a bunch of parents recently. A lot of the parents that had older siblings were complaining about how the younger sibling, now a product of common core math, were well behind their siblings when they were at the same grade level. Some at the 5th grade level, still can’t do basic arithmetic, even some of the teachers mentioned it.
We never quite bought into to CCM and just did it the old school math and old school problem solving, and played lip service to the N-different ways of solving one problem, drawing a nice pretty diagram, etc. Looks like it ended getting better results. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But those are some pretty good 4-5 different “strategies” that kids come up with to solve the problem. Too bad, in most cases, none of those strategies helped kids reach the correct answer.[/quote]Public $ is already being spent on my kids’ education. If anything, I’ll be saving some tax $, since the private school I want to send my kids to charge less than what we’re paying to educate my kids in the public school.
As for common core. I actually don’t mind. I think it’s good for them to understand multiple ways to come to the same solution. I’m making my kids to the math drill that you and I did. I view that this will expand their breath in ways of learning math. That’s what my kids teacher convey as well, where we should do the math drills at home so they know the basic and what they get taught at school is more breath.[/quote]
I agree on your first part. And the voucher system would be a very interesting and compelling thing…I wonder how much tuition to Bishop school would be 🙂
I’m not totally against common core. I just don’t think the way it’s taught is useful for most kids, as it adds confusion than anything else.
But that’s just me.[/quote]I totally agree with your feeling about CCM. My kid going from Singapore math at his private school to CCM math, he was confused for awhile and have to adjust. He has to regress from doing multiplication back to addition. However, while doing that, I do see that he didn’t really know addition as well as I thought he should. Which is a surprised to me but am glad that I see that. But he finally got a hang of it now and is exceling at it. While helping him, I do see the advantage of CCM.November 23, 2016 at 12:33 PM #804086CoronitaParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]AN, if you live in an attendance area of excellent public schools, what do you have against them? Do you currently have any kids attending public school in your neighborhood?
If not, how do you know your public school will offer a sub-par education for them?[/quote]
If I could get a Porsche at slightly more than Toyota Camry prices, I’d get the Porsche. Because a Porsche is still a Porsche, and a Camry is still a Camry, even though there is nothing wrong with the Camry.
November 23, 2016 at 12:35 PM #804087Participant[quote=bearishgurl]AN, if you live in an attendance area of excellent public schools, what do you have against them? Do you currently have any kids attending public school in your neighborhood?
If not, how do you know your public school will offer a sub-par education for them?[/quote]
I have nothing against them. I just like the private school I sent my kid to better. I have my kid going from private to public, so I know exactly what both system provide.I never say anything about sub-par.
November 23, 2016 at 12:38 PM #804088Participant[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]AN, if you live in an attendance area of excellent public schools, what do you have against them? Do you currently have any kids attending public school in your neighborhood?
If not, how do you know your public school will offer a sub-par education for them?[/quote]
I have nothing against them. I just like the private school I sent my kid to better. I have my kid going from private to public, so I know exactly what both system provide.I never say anything about sub-par.[/quote]Is your kid currently attending public school … or are they still at their private school?
November 23, 2016 at 12:38 PM #804089all
ParticipantElite private schools have limited capacity and the cost is the major control mechanism. LJCDS already has all the kids they want. They would just increase the cost by whatever the value of the voucher is.
I am a bit surprised that you would argue against Common Core, FLU. Important purpose of math in school is to develop problem-solving skills and common core math is doing that. It is the path that matters, not the number at the end. My 4th-grader can solve quadratic equations, but as long as he cannot explain the solution he is just a well-trained monkey.
November 23, 2016 at 1:23 PM #804090njtosd
Participant[quote=all]Elite private schools have limited capacity and the cost is the major control mechanism. LJCDS already has all the kids they want. They would just increase the cost by whatever the value of the voucher is.
I am a bit surprised that you would argue against Common Core, FLU. Important purpose of math in school is to develop problem-solving skills and common core math is doing that. It is the path that matters, not the number at the end. My 4th-grader can solve quadratic equations, but as long as he cannot explain the solution he is just a well-trained monkey.[/quote]
Most teaching methods work when the teachers are smart and like the subject they teach. Very few elementary school teachers like science and math and therefore we get kids who are uninspired in those areas (at least). The teachers yammer on about using various methods to solve math problems, but most of the times they don’t understand them or really don’t care. Last I heard the text books that have been published incorporating the common core had been slapped together in very short order. Because our schools were hesitant to buy textbooks that had not been road tested, they adapted modules from some education project in Utah and I have found them to be, frankly, crap. California no longer requires textbooks to be Oked by the California Board of education so the schools are able to teach from whatever they like. It’s depressing. It’s hard to have kids do really well in AP math classes without having some sort of external help.
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