OMG – Someone please control Christine O’donnell

[jstoesz]

I am not conflating issues…I am concerned with choice in all aspects from religion to the classics. You are trying only to focus on whether we should teach ID.

I find that specific argument (that you want to have) spurious. Because if we have choice, why would you care about whether ID is taught in some schools? Unless you are interested in controlling other people’s kids that is.

There are many private schools that do not educate in scripture. I do not care what religion is taught in private schools, and I do not care if they choose to go to a religious or secular school. I do care about whether they get a choice in the matter though.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]
I find that specific argument (that you want to have) spurious. Because if we have choice, why would you care about whether ID is taught in some schools? Unless you are interested in controlling other people’s kids that is.

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This is really getting rediculous. I have no desire to tell anyone what they teach their kids. But it’s rediculous to include ID in publicly funded schools. Not only because it is a thoroughly modern version of creationism, designed specifically to get around constitutional limitations, but it because it isn’t science. It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative. To teach it as science is encouraging kids to be stupid. And at minimum, we all have a stake in not doing that.

Now you want to teach it in a private school? Go ahead and make your kids stupid. But I really don’t want to pay for it. Not because it’s religion. Because it’s stupid. There is no final constitional answer as to whether school vouchers are allowed under the law. But “vouchers for stupidity” isn’t a real good selling point.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]
I find that specific argument (that you want to have) spurious. Because if we have choice, why would you care about whether ID is taught in some schools? Unless you are interested in controlling other people’s kids that is.

[/quote]

This is really getting rediculous. I have no desire to tell anyone what they teach their kids. But it’s rediculous to include ID in publicly funded schools. Not only because it is a thoroughly modern version of creationism, designed specifically to get around constitutional limitations, but it because it isn’t science. It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative. To teach it as science is encouraging kids to be stupid. And at minimum, we all have a stake in not doing that.

Now you want to teach it in a private school? Go ahead and make your kids stupid. But I really don’t want to pay for it. Not because it’s religion. Because it’s stupid. There is no final constitional answer as to whether school vouchers are allowed under the law. But “vouchers for stupidity” isn’t a real good selling point.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]
I find that specific argument (that you want to have) spurious. Because if we have choice, why would you care about whether ID is taught in some schools? Unless you are interested in controlling other people’s kids that is.

[/quote]

This is really getting rediculous. I have no desire to tell anyone what they teach their kids. But it’s rediculous to include ID in publicly funded schools. Not only because it is a thoroughly modern version of creationism, designed specifically to get around constitutional limitations, but it because it isn’t science. It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative. To teach it as science is encouraging kids to be stupid. And at minimum, we all have a stake in not doing that.

Now you want to teach it in a private school? Go ahead and make your kids stupid. But I really don’t want to pay for it. Not because it’s religion. Because it’s stupid. There is no final constitional answer as to whether school vouchers are allowed under the law. But “vouchers for stupidity” isn’t a real good selling point.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]
I find that specific argument (that you want to have) spurious. Because if we have choice, why would you care about whether ID is taught in some schools? Unless you are interested in controlling other people’s kids that is.

[/quote]

This is really getting rediculous. I have no desire to tell anyone what they teach their kids. But it’s rediculous to include ID in publicly funded schools. Not only because it is a thoroughly modern version of creationism, designed specifically to get around constitutional limitations, but it because it isn’t science. It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative. To teach it as science is encouraging kids to be stupid. And at minimum, we all have a stake in not doing that.

Now you want to teach it in a private school? Go ahead and make your kids stupid. But I really don’t want to pay for it. Not because it’s religion. Because it’s stupid. There is no final constitional answer as to whether school vouchers are allowed under the law. But “vouchers for stupidity” isn’t a real good selling point.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]
I find that specific argument (that you want to have) spurious. Because if we have choice, why would you care about whether ID is taught in some schools? Unless you are interested in controlling other people’s kids that is.

[/quote]

This is really getting rediculous. I have no desire to tell anyone what they teach their kids. But it’s rediculous to include ID in publicly funded schools. Not only because it is a thoroughly modern version of creationism, designed specifically to get around constitutional limitations, but it because it isn’t science. It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative. To teach it as science is encouraging kids to be stupid. And at minimum, we all have a stake in not doing that.

Now you want to teach it in a private school? Go ahead and make your kids stupid. But I really don’t want to pay for it. Not because it’s religion. Because it’s stupid. There is no final constitional answer as to whether school vouchers are allowed under the law. But “vouchers for stupidity” isn’t a real good selling point.

[jstoesz]

haha

Vouchers for stupidity! I wonder if I can get some signs drawn up!

For a little fun with quotes…

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/origins/quotes/universe.html

The existence of an intelligent designer seems to be a widely held belief among some scientific heavy hitters. It all comes down to the simple question…Where does all this stuff come from and how is it that it all works in a sort of unison? Natural Selection did not select the fundamental forces.

[quote]It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative.[/quote]

I certainly hope you are employing hyperbole. If you are not, you are are capable of sufficient self deception and delusion in your atheistic beliefs to make even Jim Jones blush (note: I am employing hyperbole).

On a side note, who decides what is “stupid?” Just curious…

[jstoesz]

haha

Vouchers for stupidity! I wonder if I can get some signs drawn up!

For a little fun with quotes…

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/origins/quotes/universe.html

The existence of an intelligent designer seems to be a widely held belief among some scientific heavy hitters. It all comes down to the simple question…Where does all this stuff come from and how is it that it all works in a sort of unison? Natural Selection did not select the fundamental forces.

[quote]It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative.[/quote]

I certainly hope you are employing hyperbole. If you are not, you are are capable of sufficient self deception and delusion in your atheistic beliefs to make even Jim Jones blush (note: I am employing hyperbole).

On a side note, who decides what is “stupid?” Just curious…

[jstoesz]

haha

Vouchers for stupidity! I wonder if I can get some signs drawn up!

For a little fun with quotes…

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/origins/quotes/universe.html

The existence of an intelligent designer seems to be a widely held belief among some scientific heavy hitters. It all comes down to the simple question…Where does all this stuff come from and how is it that it all works in a sort of unison? Natural Selection did not select the fundamental forces.

[quote]It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative.[/quote]

I certainly hope you are employing hyperbole. If you are not, you are are capable of sufficient self deception and delusion in your atheistic beliefs to make even Jim Jones blush (note: I am employing hyperbole).

On a side note, who decides what is “stupid?” Just curious…

[jstoesz]

haha

Vouchers for stupidity! I wonder if I can get some signs drawn up!

For a little fun with quotes…

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/origins/quotes/universe.html

The existence of an intelligent designer seems to be a widely held belief among some scientific heavy hitters. It all comes down to the simple question…Where does all this stuff come from and how is it that it all works in a sort of unison? Natural Selection did not select the fundamental forces.

[quote]It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative.[/quote]

I certainly hope you are employing hyperbole. If you are not, you are are capable of sufficient self deception and delusion in your atheistic beliefs to make even Jim Jones blush (note: I am employing hyperbole).

On a side note, who decides what is “stupid?” Just curious…

[jstoesz]

haha

Vouchers for stupidity! I wonder if I can get some signs drawn up!

For a little fun with quotes…

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/origins/quotes/universe.html

The existence of an intelligent designer seems to be a widely held belief among some scientific heavy hitters. It all comes down to the simple question…Where does all this stuff come from and how is it that it all works in a sort of unison? Natural Selection did not select the fundamental forces.

[quote]It isn’t anything. It is comparable to teaching flat earth as a valid alternative.[/quote]

I certainly hope you are employing hyperbole. If you are not, you are are capable of sufficient self deception and delusion in your atheistic beliefs to make even Jim Jones blush (note: I am employing hyperbole).

On a side note, who decides what is “stupid?” Just curious…

[UCGal]

If anyone is going to insist on ID being taught in public schools then at least balance it out with the FSM theory as well.

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

[UCGal]

If anyone is going to insist on ID being taught in public schools then at least balance it out with the FSM theory as well.

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

[UCGal]

If anyone is going to insist on ID being taught in public schools then at least balance it out with the FSM theory as well.

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

[UCGal]

If anyone is going to insist on ID being taught in public schools then at least balance it out with the FSM theory as well.

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

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