OMG – Someone please control Christine O’donnell

[jstoesz]

gandalf, based on your last post I am reasonably sure you have no idea what intelligent design is. Intelligent design has nothing to do with either of the two (factually contradictory) Genesis stories. The basic theory of intelligent design is that, natural selection is insufficient to explain the evolution of creation. There are various good reasons for why natural selection is insufficient such as irreducible complexity of certain systems (disputed by numerous scientist) or just the statistical improbability of only natural selection resulting in our evolution.

I am not a big proponent of intelligent design as science. I personally do not care. But, I do think that natural selection alone takes a good bit of faith.

But I repeat, Intelligent design has nothing to do with Christianity/Judaism or Genesis.

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Why would an omnipotent being create a bunch of stupid humans?

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Why would an omnipotent being create a bunch of stupid humans?

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Why would an omnipotent being create a bunch of stupid humans?

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Why would an omnipotent being create a bunch of stupid humans?

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Why would an omnipotent being create a bunch of stupid humans?

[SK in CV]

[quote=jficquette][quote=ocrenter]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

sounds like separation of church and state is pretty clear cut here.[/quote]

It’s not there at all. It simply says that the government has no business meddling with religion period.[/quote]

Idealogues see things as simple. As cut and dried. Black and white. The words, as written, are opaque, neither black nor white. Clarity has only been provided by almost 219 years of precedent, set by the supreme court. Pointing to the words, without the context of those subsequent court decisions is ignoring the law.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jficquette][quote=ocrenter]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

sounds like separation of church and state is pretty clear cut here.[/quote]

It’s not there at all. It simply says that the government has no business meddling with religion period.[/quote]

Idealogues see things as simple. As cut and dried. Black and white. The words, as written, are opaque, neither black nor white. Clarity has only been provided by almost 219 years of precedent, set by the supreme court. Pointing to the words, without the context of those subsequent court decisions is ignoring the law.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jficquette][quote=ocrenter]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

sounds like separation of church and state is pretty clear cut here.[/quote]

It’s not there at all. It simply says that the government has no business meddling with religion period.[/quote]

Idealogues see things as simple. As cut and dried. Black and white. The words, as written, are opaque, neither black nor white. Clarity has only been provided by almost 219 years of precedent, set by the supreme court. Pointing to the words, without the context of those subsequent court decisions is ignoring the law.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jficquette][quote=ocrenter]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

sounds like separation of church and state is pretty clear cut here.[/quote]

It’s not there at all. It simply says that the government has no business meddling with religion period.[/quote]

Idealogues see things as simple. As cut and dried. Black and white. The words, as written, are opaque, neither black nor white. Clarity has only been provided by almost 219 years of precedent, set by the supreme court. Pointing to the words, without the context of those subsequent court decisions is ignoring the law.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jficquette][quote=ocrenter]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

sounds like separation of church and state is pretty clear cut here.[/quote]

It’s not there at all. It simply says that the government has no business meddling with religion period.[/quote]

Idealogues see things as simple. As cut and dried. Black and white. The words, as written, are opaque, neither black nor white. Clarity has only been provided by almost 219 years of precedent, set by the supreme court. Pointing to the words, without the context of those subsequent court decisions is ignoring the law.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]But I repeat, Intelligent design has nothing to do with Christianity/Judaism or Genesis.[/quote]

Keep repeating it. It won’t make it any more true. Research its origin. It is a laughable argument.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]But I repeat, Intelligent design has nothing to do with Christianity/Judaism or Genesis.[/quote]

Keep repeating it. It won’t make it any more true. Research its origin. It is a laughable argument.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]But I repeat, Intelligent design has nothing to do with Christianity/Judaism or Genesis.[/quote]

Keep repeating it. It won’t make it any more true. Research its origin. It is a laughable argument.

[SK in CV]

[quote=jstoesz]But I repeat, Intelligent design has nothing to do with Christianity/Judaism or Genesis.[/quote]

Keep repeating it. It won’t make it any more true. Research its origin. It is a laughable argument.

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