ObamaCare…coming soon

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Effects of the Key Provisions of H.R. 3200
The legislation would establish a mandate to have health insurance, expand eligibility for Medicaid, and establish new health insurance exchanges through which some people could purchase subsidized coverage. The options available in
the insurance exchange would include private health insurance plans as well as a public plan that would be administered by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The specifications would also require payments of penalties by uninsured individuals, firms that did not provide qualified health insurance, and other firms
whose employees would receive subsidized coverage through the exchanges. The plan would also provide tax credits to small employers that contribute toward the cost of health insurance for their workers. Collectively, those provisions would yield a significant increase in the number of
Americans with health insurance. By 2019, CBO and the staff of JCT estimate, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 37 million, leaving about 17 million nonelderly residents uninsured (nearly half of whom would be unauthorized immigrants). In total, CBO estimates that enacting those provisions would raise deficits by $1,042 billion over the 2010-2019 period.

By the end of the 10-year period, in 2019, the coverage provisions would add
$202 billion to the federal deficit, CBO and JCT estimate. That increase would be
partially offset by net cost savings of $50 billion and additional revenues of
$86 billion, resulting in a net increase in the deficit of an estimated $65 billion.
It is important to note that the figures presented here do not represent a complete
cost estimate for the coverage provisions of the legislation. They reflect
specifications provided by the committee staff rather than detailed analysis of the
legislative language. They do not include certain costs that the government would
incur to administer the proposed changes and the impact of the bill’s provisions on
other federal programs. Nevertheless, the estimates reflect the major net budgetary
effects of H.R. 3200.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/104xx/doc10464/hr3200.pdf

[SK in CV]

[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]

What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?

This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]

I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.

All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]

What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?

This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]

I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.

All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]

What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?

This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]

I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.

All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]

What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?

This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]

I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.

All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]

What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?

This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]

I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.

All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?

[Zeitgeist]

Thank you for the reply Bof2, SK wants to control the discussion and does not present facts. He continues to attack and obfuscate. That is his default position.

[Zeitgeist]

Thank you for the reply Bof2, SK wants to control the discussion and does not present facts. He continues to attack and obfuscate. That is his default position.

[Zeitgeist]

Thank you for the reply Bof2, SK wants to control the discussion and does not present facts. He continues to attack and obfuscate. That is his default position.

[Zeitgeist]

Thank you for the reply Bof2, SK wants to control the discussion and does not present facts. He continues to attack and obfuscate. That is his default position.

[Zeitgeist]

Thank you for the reply Bof2, SK wants to control the discussion and does not present facts. He continues to attack and obfuscate. That is his default position.

[CBad]

Question about Big Insurance….I work for the biggest one and I can say for sure they are definitely against the bill and the idea of a public option. I get emails almost daily about it. Some are watered down and very PC. But some are very to the point about how and why they oppose it.

[CBad]

Question about Big Insurance….I work for the biggest one and I can say for sure they are definitely against the bill and the idea of a public option. I get emails almost daily about it. Some are watered down and very PC. But some are very to the point about how and why they oppose it.

[CBad]

Question about Big Insurance….I work for the biggest one and I can say for sure they are definitely against the bill and the idea of a public option. I get emails almost daily about it. Some are watered down and very PC. But some are very to the point about how and why they oppose it.

[CBad]

Question about Big Insurance….I work for the biggest one and I can say for sure they are definitely against the bill and the idea of a public option. I get emails almost daily about it. Some are watered down and very PC. But some are very to the point about how and why they oppose it.

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