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October 21, 2009 at 8:52 PM #472896October 21, 2009 at 8:54 PM #472070
sd_matt
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.
I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.
As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.
As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.
Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.[/quote]
Lol. I guess I’m just bored.
October 21, 2009 at 8:54 PM #472251Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.
I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.
As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.
As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.
Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.[/quote]
Lol. I guess I’m just bored.
October 21, 2009 at 8:54 PM #472609Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.
I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.
As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.
As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.
Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.[/quote]
Lol. I guess I’m just bored.
October 21, 2009 at 8:54 PM #472685Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.
I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.
As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.
As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.
Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.[/quote]
Lol. I guess I’m just bored.
October 21, 2009 at 8:54 PM #472904Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.
I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.
As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.
As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.
Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.[/quote]
Lol. I guess I’m just bored.
October 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM #472059Participant[quote=briansd1]Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.
Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.
It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.
What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.
So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.
And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.
But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.
To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.[/quote]
Calling an affair a national security issue was indeed chicken shit. It lowered the bar.
October 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM #472239Participant[quote=briansd1]Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.
Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.
It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.
What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.
So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.
And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.
But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.
To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.[/quote]
Calling an affair a national security issue was indeed chicken shit. It lowered the bar.
October 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM #472597Participant[quote=briansd1]Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.
Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.
It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.
What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.
So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.
And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.
But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.
To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.[/quote]
Calling an affair a national security issue was indeed chicken shit. It lowered the bar.
October 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM #472673Participant[quote=briansd1]Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.
Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.
It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.
What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.
So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.
And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.
But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.
To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.[/quote]
Calling an affair a national security issue was indeed chicken shit. It lowered the bar.
October 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM #472891Participant[quote=briansd1]Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.
Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.
It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.
What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.
So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.
And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.
But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.
To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.[/quote]
Calling an affair a national security issue was indeed chicken shit. It lowered the bar.
October 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM #472080Participant[quote=sd_matt]So some are indeed “more equal than others”
The baby didn’t ask to be brought over to that house. It was brought there. And now it has to play by that houses rules?[/quote]
And now the next definition regarding values;
What is your definition of fair?
October 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM #472261Participant[quote=sd_matt]So some are indeed “more equal than others”
The baby didn’t ask to be brought over to that house. It was brought there. And now it has to play by that houses rules?[/quote]
And now the next definition regarding values;
What is your definition of fair?
October 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM #472619Participant[quote=sd_matt]So some are indeed “more equal than others”
The baby didn’t ask to be brought over to that house. It was brought there. And now it has to play by that houses rules?[/quote]
And now the next definition regarding values;
What is your definition of fair?
October 21, 2009 at 9:04 PM #472697Participant[quote=sd_matt]So some are indeed “more equal than others”
The baby didn’t ask to be brought over to that house. It was brought there. And now it has to play by that houses rules?[/quote]
And now the next definition regarding values;
What is your definition of fair?
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