Obama 2016

[ocrenter]

So we are heading back to Obama the commie path once again? Oh boy…

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[quote=CardiffBaseball]
All he’s really trying to show is who had an influence on BHO and why. Good to know you and D’Souza are asking the same question, however I suspect he’s more interested in the answer than you.[/quote]

I asked no question. I responded to your statement about the current president being from Kenya and establishing common background between him and an Indian immigrant based on that.

[briansd1]

Yea, ocrenter, it’s the “vetting” of Obama all over again from the right. This movie is 4 years late.

We should know what Obama is all about by now. But a commie? Give me a break. Obama hired Geithner and barely slapped the bankers.

About communist influence, millions of people grew up in communist countries and they aren’t even communist.

The idea that Obama is a commie is kookoo and not anchored in reality.

[enron_by_the_sea]

Dinesh D’Souza should be commended for having achieved “success” by catering to a huge under-served market of Americans who yearn for an ultimate proof that Obama is communist.

[Arraya]

[quote=enron_by_the_sea]Dinesh D’Souza should be commended for having achieved “success” by catering to a huge under-served market of Americans who yearn for an ultimate proof that Obama is communist.[/quote]

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[EconProf]

I just saw this movie and highly recommend it, especially to those who voted for Barrak Obama. The advertisement running for the movie “love him or hate him, you don’t know him” is especially telling.
It was factual throughout, but occasionally misleading when taking statements out of context, and did jump to some unwarranted conclusions. Yes, it pushed a definite point of view, but we need to expose ourself to alternative views to call ourselves objective, which is why I often tune in to MSNBC and read The New Republic, The New York Times, Huffington Post, etc. Liberals, if you claim to have an open mind, see this movie!

[dumbrenter]

Dinesh D’Souza and his views on colonialism gets him to the closest to uncle Tom of 21st century.
He is factually incorrect when he talks about the colonial experience in India, actually his position is almost a historical negation-ism which if done in another european country today relating to negating the jewish experience is a crime.

He made his fortune and fame riding on the Reagan coattails and good for him. I saw him once pitching Reagan for the best president ever on a show and it was the closest I ever saw somebody performing a verbal blowjob on television.

I can understand a man singing for his dinner, I get it that he exists to fulfill a need for the nostalgic views some people in this country expect to hear from former house servant, but is there a need to go over the top for it?

The more he writes about Obama, the more he pushes me, a Republican, to go vote for Obama.
If he can get more than 1 european-american to go the other direction, then net-net I guess he comes out ahead.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=craptcha]

The US did break off from GB, like India did, but I’m guessing you are talking about Kenya. Obama was raised by his mother and his Anglo grandparents, then the mother and her Indonesian husband (former Dutch colony) and finally the Anglo grandparents. If I’m not mistaken he spent a couple of days with his father when he was a kid and he first went to Kenya in his late twenties. It is a major stretch to see an Indian immigrant and Obama as people with common background.[/quote]

India did not break off from britan like US did. This is very misinformed. India was occupied. US was colonized. Big difference.
And those events happened out of phase: i.e. british occupation in India happened because they made a conscious choice to use their resources to expand in India as opposed to US. A look at events around the world during the american revolutionary war will make this very obvious. Of course this goes against the popular narrative here where the starving continentals fought off the redcoats simply with courage and conviction.

You are right about the differences in the background though..Dinesh D’Souza & the family/community he comes from represents a tiny Indian elite experience that actively collaborated with the british during their occupation of India. And prospered.
Another big difference is that while folks who supported the redcoats simply migrated north after the American war of Independence, Dinesh’s community or of those who did not migrate never toned down their loyalty for the british even after they left. Except the transfer of loyalties occurred pretty fast with him as he immigrated here.

I guess this is why he feels very threatened by Obama senior, a person who came from a similar historical experience but with a different outlook. One chose to sing for dinner, the other chose to hunt instead and take a chance he might starve in return for keeping his self-respect intact.

[ctr70]

[quote=dumbrenter]Dinesh D’Souza and his views on colonialism gets him to the closest to uncle Tom of 21st century.
He is factually incorrect when he talks about the colonial experience in India, actually his position is almost a historical negation-ism which if done in another european country today relating to negating the jewish experience is a crime.

He made his fortune and fame riding on the Reagan coattails and good for him. I saw him once pitching Reagan for the best president ever on a show and it was the closest I ever saw somebody performing a verbal blowjob on television.

I can understand a man singing for his dinner, I get it that he exists to fulfill a need for the nostalgic views some people in this country expect to hear from former house servant, but is there a need to go over the top for it?

The more he writes about Obama, the more he pushes me, a Republican, to go vote for Obama.
If he can get more than 1 european-american to go the other direction, then net-net I guess he comes out ahead.[/quote]

That is the classic load of BS that everyone who is not a white male and happens to be on the right is a “uncle Tom” or Puppet. What a bunch of baloney.

[briansd1]

[quote=EconProf]The advertisement running for the movie “love him or hate him, you don’t know him” is especially telling.[/quote]

How so? After 4 years we still don’t know Obama?

He must me some commie mole who infiltrated our top leadership. It’s part of the plan to right world domination by white men.

The thing is that Obama’s policies have been about incremental change, preserving the establishment and continuity. Nothing radical here.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=briansd1][quote=EconProf]The advertisement running for the movie “love him or hate him, you don’t know him” is especially telling.[/quote]

How so? After 4 years we still don’t know Obama?

He must me some commie mole who infiltrated our top leadership. It’s part of the plan to right world domination by white men.

The thing is that Obama’s policies have been about incremental change, preserving the establishment and continuity. Nothing radical here.[/quote]

If you define incremental change as continuing Bush’s abysmal record on human rights and trashing our civil liberties, then yes change is good. Expanding the war on drugs, that’s a bonus. Just ask Penn Teller, a classic rant.

The thing you have to ask yourself is why a leftie would be so hell bent on taking away your civil liberties. What is the end-game here? Why would a leftist even sign something like the NDAA after promising he wouldn’t. Why did he ask to have even more lethal BS be added to NDAA? Of course promise not to use it?

Frankly I want to know what makes the guy tick, so the more that can be dug up the better.

[Anonymous]

Jeremiah Wright and Frank Marshall made Barry tick.

[Arraya]

Obama sucks capital’s cock like a $2 whore. He dropped to his knees as soon as he got in office. This narrative is batshit crazy. I mean, its serious comic book stuff -which is why it is so popular with fundamentalist christians.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=ctr70][quote=dumbrenter]Dinesh D’Souza and his views on colonialism gets him to the closest to uncle Tom of 21st century.
He is factually incorrect when he talks about the colonial experience in India, actually his position is almost a historical negation-ism which if done in another european country today relating to negating the jewish experience is a crime.

He made his fortune and fame riding on the Reagan coattails and good for him. I saw him once pitching Reagan for the best president ever on a show and it was the closest I ever saw somebody performing a verbal blowjob on television.

I can understand a man singing for his dinner, I get it that he exists to fulfill a need for the nostalgic views some people in this country expect to hear from former house servant, but is there a need to go over the top for it?

The more he writes about Obama, the more he pushes me, a Republican, to go vote for Obama.
If he can get more than 1 european-american to go the other direction, then net-net I guess he comes out ahead.[/quote]

That is the classic load of BS that everyone who is not a white male and happens to be on the right is a “uncle Tom” or Puppet. What a bunch of baloney.[/quote]

If you associate falsifying history to claim colonial experience was good, or attacking a person’s history instead of his ideas as being on the right, then you and I have a very different opinion on what ‘right’ is.
Even remotely suggesting that the colonial experience was good for countries that got occupied is a bunch of baloney no matter when it comes from a white male or the ‘uncle Tom’s.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=dumbrenter]

If you associate falsifying history to claim colonial experience was good, or attacking a person’s history instead of his ideas as being on the right, then you and I have a very different opinion on what ‘right’ is.
Even remotely suggesting that the colonial experience was good for countries that got occupied is a bunch of baloney no matter when it comes from a white male or the ‘uncle Tom’s.[/quote]

Obama’s brother in Kenya = Uncle Tom
Obama = Worth changing parties to vote for because some little Indian guy shows that Obama is on the right side of the colonialism argument.

The sad thing is that Uncle Tom in Kenya doesn’t even understand he’s been raped. Almost Patty Hearst like in his longing for bringing back the colonial criminals. Very sad.

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