NPR: “Offshore Tax Havens”

[UCGal]

[quote=CONCHO]Bitching about unions while the country is being gang-raped by corporate and financial interests is like complaining about mosquitoes while being eaten by a bear.[/quote]

I agree.

And on the topic of pensions… I’ve never worked public sector except an internship with the Nat’l weather service electronics tech shop one summer, while in college. Non-union. I’ve never been a union employee. That said – I had full, defined benefit pension with my private sector employer until we were acquired by another private sector employer in 2000. The new employer had a cash based pension program – (aka Portable Pension) that continued till 2009. Both pensions are now frozen.

Defined benefit pensions existed for non union private sector employees AS THE NORM until about a decade ago. My father, an engineer, non-union, private sector, retired with a nice pension from Cubic Corp.

My pensions were frozen – but I’ll still get *something* when I retire. Not enough to live on… I wish they hadn’t frozen the pensions… especially the first one – the defined benefit one. But they did. It’s another in a long list of benefits that have been taken away for this private sector employee. It doesn’t make me angry at the folks who still have benefits/pensions… it makes me ENVIOUS for what I used to have.

[blahblahblah]

Taking away the private pensions was the first step. Then they can get all of the private workers to bitch about the “lazy union workers” who still get a pension. Whip up some phony outrage, angry talking heads on TV, etc… Pretty soon the masses are calling for blood and the public workers lose their pensions too. Meanwhile the white shoe boys are laughing all the way to their offshore bank accounts and megayachts.

We are so screwed, it is so obvious how they manipulate everyone but no one seems to notice. The union thing is a perfect example. The teaparty starts out with “No bailouts! No bailouts!” Then a couple of paid plants start screaming “No benefits for lazy public workers! No unions!” Pretty soon the whole herd is going along with it. People are like sheep, all you need is a sheepdog and you can make them go anywhere you want.

[blahblahblah]

Taking away the private pensions was the first step. Then they can get all of the private workers to bitch about the “lazy union workers” who still get a pension. Whip up some phony outrage, angry talking heads on TV, etc… Pretty soon the masses are calling for blood and the public workers lose their pensions too. Meanwhile the white shoe boys are laughing all the way to their offshore bank accounts and megayachts.

We are so screwed, it is so obvious how they manipulate everyone but no one seems to notice. The union thing is a perfect example. The teaparty starts out with “No bailouts! No bailouts!” Then a couple of paid plants start screaming “No benefits for lazy public workers! No unions!” Pretty soon the whole herd is going along with it. People are like sheep, all you need is a sheepdog and you can make them go anywhere you want.

[blahblahblah]

Taking away the private pensions was the first step. Then they can get all of the private workers to bitch about the “lazy union workers” who still get a pension. Whip up some phony outrage, angry talking heads on TV, etc… Pretty soon the masses are calling for blood and the public workers lose their pensions too. Meanwhile the white shoe boys are laughing all the way to their offshore bank accounts and megayachts.

We are so screwed, it is so obvious how they manipulate everyone but no one seems to notice. The union thing is a perfect example. The teaparty starts out with “No bailouts! No bailouts!” Then a couple of paid plants start screaming “No benefits for lazy public workers! No unions!” Pretty soon the whole herd is going along with it. People are like sheep, all you need is a sheepdog and you can make them go anywhere you want.

[blahblahblah]

Taking away the private pensions was the first step. Then they can get all of the private workers to bitch about the “lazy union workers” who still get a pension. Whip up some phony outrage, angry talking heads on TV, etc… Pretty soon the masses are calling for blood and the public workers lose their pensions too. Meanwhile the white shoe boys are laughing all the way to their offshore bank accounts and megayachts.

We are so screwed, it is so obvious how they manipulate everyone but no one seems to notice. The union thing is a perfect example. The teaparty starts out with “No bailouts! No bailouts!” Then a couple of paid plants start screaming “No benefits for lazy public workers! No unions!” Pretty soon the whole herd is going along with it. People are like sheep, all you need is a sheepdog and you can make them go anywhere you want.

[blahblahblah]

Taking away the private pensions was the first step. Then they can get all of the private workers to bitch about the “lazy union workers” who still get a pension. Whip up some phony outrage, angry talking heads on TV, etc… Pretty soon the masses are calling for blood and the public workers lose their pensions too. Meanwhile the white shoe boys are laughing all the way to their offshore bank accounts and megayachts.

We are so screwed, it is so obvious how they manipulate everyone but no one seems to notice. The union thing is a perfect example. The teaparty starts out with “No bailouts! No bailouts!” Then a couple of paid plants start screaming “No benefits for lazy public workers! No unions!” Pretty soon the whole herd is going along with it. People are like sheep, all you need is a sheepdog and you can make them go anywhere you want.

[GH]

If I understand it correctly, ONLY govt workers are considered “the middle class”. All other PEONS in the private sector exist ONLY to pay tax and shut up. The argument that because banks and mega corporations can steal from us seems to merit the argument that since they are engaged in theft we can too…

Govt workers are seriously disconnected from the reality that when their employers (private sector workers) are bust, it follows so are they.

[GH]

If I understand it correctly, ONLY govt workers are considered “the middle class”. All other PEONS in the private sector exist ONLY to pay tax and shut up. The argument that because banks and mega corporations can steal from us seems to merit the argument that since they are engaged in theft we can too…

Govt workers are seriously disconnected from the reality that when their employers (private sector workers) are bust, it follows so are they.

[GH]

If I understand it correctly, ONLY govt workers are considered “the middle class”. All other PEONS in the private sector exist ONLY to pay tax and shut up. The argument that because banks and mega corporations can steal from us seems to merit the argument that since they are engaged in theft we can too…

Govt workers are seriously disconnected from the reality that when their employers (private sector workers) are bust, it follows so are they.

[GH]

If I understand it correctly, ONLY govt workers are considered “the middle class”. All other PEONS in the private sector exist ONLY to pay tax and shut up. The argument that because banks and mega corporations can steal from us seems to merit the argument that since they are engaged in theft we can too…

Govt workers are seriously disconnected from the reality that when their employers (private sector workers) are bust, it follows so are they.

[GH]

If I understand it correctly, ONLY govt workers are considered “the middle class”. All other PEONS in the private sector exist ONLY to pay tax and shut up. The argument that because banks and mega corporations can steal from us seems to merit the argument that since they are engaged in theft we can too…

Govt workers are seriously disconnected from the reality that when their employers (private sector workers) are bust, it follows so are they.

[gandalf]

American taxpayers just got screwed out of about $20 TRILLION — more than US GDP. The wealth has been transferred to Wall Street banks, transnational corporations and wealthy individuals.

Meanwhile, the tea party is upset about school teachers.

The most pathetic generation of Americans EVER.

[gandalf]

American taxpayers just got screwed out of about $20 TRILLION — more than US GDP. The wealth has been transferred to Wall Street banks, transnational corporations and wealthy individuals.

Meanwhile, the tea party is upset about school teachers.

The most pathetic generation of Americans EVER.

[gandalf]

American taxpayers just got screwed out of about $20 TRILLION — more than US GDP. The wealth has been transferred to Wall Street banks, transnational corporations and wealthy individuals.

Meanwhile, the tea party is upset about school teachers.

The most pathetic generation of Americans EVER.

[gandalf]

American taxpayers just got screwed out of about $20 TRILLION — more than US GDP. The wealth has been transferred to Wall Street banks, transnational corporations and wealthy individuals.

Meanwhile, the tea party is upset about school teachers.

The most pathetic generation of Americans EVER.

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