New-home sales plunge 33% to record low in May

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Sales are up in survival bunkers. These were shown on ABC’s Nightline on 6-25-10: http://www.terravivos.com/ This is a local Del Mar company.

[Arraya]

[quote=DWCAP][quote=Arraya]No, it most definitely will not, boom again.[/quote]

Sure it will, notice I didnt put any timeline on it. Maybe it will take 1000 years, but it will happen eventually, unless you think the extintion of the human race is nigh.[/quote]

lol… Well on a 1000 year time line, it’s feasible. Extinction on the other hand is an interesting concept to think about. We definitely have the potential and is something we may chose to do. I don’t mean chose, as in a shadowy group of rapture nuts deciding to let lose some nukes(which is not completely out of the question), more of like an alcoholic constantly drinking and driving until he kills himself. Which is kind of analogous to our cycles of collapsing empires we’ve been in for the past 7000 years and seem to be coming to the close of another one. A die-off is more likely scenario with our fatal social structures and poisonous ideologies unless we dramatically change. I tend to be an optimist and think we will do a 180 over the next few years and pull away from the abyss. Though, its not certain and we surely may continue or foolish ways

Speaking of:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287643/Human-race-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html#

As the scientist who helped eradicate smallpox he certainly know a thing or two about extinction.
And now Professor Frank Fenner, emeritus professor of microbiology at the Australian National University, has predicted that the human race will be extinct within the next 100 years.
He has claimed that the human race will be unable to survive a population explosion and ‘unbridled consumption

I tend to be more in line with this fellow from the same article, that we have a window…. not an specific timeline, though

And it comes after Professor Nicholas Boyle of Cambridge University said that a ‘Doomsday’ moment will take place in 2014 – and will determine whether the 21st century is full of violence and poverty or will be peaceful and prosperous.

[Arraya]

[quote=DWCAP][quote=Arraya]No, it most definitely will not, boom again.[/quote]

Sure it will, notice I didnt put any timeline on it. Maybe it will take 1000 years, but it will happen eventually, unless you think the extintion of the human race is nigh.[/quote]

lol… Well on a 1000 year time line, it’s feasible. Extinction on the other hand is an interesting concept to think about. We definitely have the potential and is something we may chose to do. I don’t mean chose, as in a shadowy group of rapture nuts deciding to let lose some nukes(which is not completely out of the question), more of like an alcoholic constantly drinking and driving until he kills himself. Which is kind of analogous to our cycles of collapsing empires we’ve been in for the past 7000 years and seem to be coming to the close of another one. A die-off is more likely scenario with our fatal social structures and poisonous ideologies unless we dramatically change. I tend to be an optimist and think we will do a 180 over the next few years and pull away from the abyss. Though, its not certain and we surely may continue or foolish ways

Speaking of:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287643/Human-race-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html#

As the scientist who helped eradicate smallpox he certainly know a thing or two about extinction.
And now Professor Frank Fenner, emeritus professor of microbiology at the Australian National University, has predicted that the human race will be extinct within the next 100 years.
He has claimed that the human race will be unable to survive a population explosion and ‘unbridled consumption

I tend to be more in line with this fellow from the same article, that we have a window…. not an specific timeline, though

And it comes after Professor Nicholas Boyle of Cambridge University said that a ‘Doomsday’ moment will take place in 2014 – and will determine whether the 21st century is full of violence and poverty or will be peaceful and prosperous.

[Arraya]

[quote=DWCAP][quote=Arraya]No, it most definitely will not, boom again.[/quote]

Sure it will, notice I didnt put any timeline on it. Maybe it will take 1000 years, but it will happen eventually, unless you think the extintion of the human race is nigh.[/quote]

lol… Well on a 1000 year time line, it’s feasible. Extinction on the other hand is an interesting concept to think about. We definitely have the potential and is something we may chose to do. I don’t mean chose, as in a shadowy group of rapture nuts deciding to let lose some nukes(which is not completely out of the question), more of like an alcoholic constantly drinking and driving until he kills himself. Which is kind of analogous to our cycles of collapsing empires we’ve been in for the past 7000 years and seem to be coming to the close of another one. A die-off is more likely scenario with our fatal social structures and poisonous ideologies unless we dramatically change. I tend to be an optimist and think we will do a 180 over the next few years and pull away from the abyss. Though, its not certain and we surely may continue or foolish ways

Speaking of:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287643/Human-race-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html#

As the scientist who helped eradicate smallpox he certainly know a thing or two about extinction.
And now Professor Frank Fenner, emeritus professor of microbiology at the Australian National University, has predicted that the human race will be extinct within the next 100 years.
He has claimed that the human race will be unable to survive a population explosion and ‘unbridled consumption

I tend to be more in line with this fellow from the same article, that we have a window…. not an specific timeline, though

And it comes after Professor Nicholas Boyle of Cambridge University said that a ‘Doomsday’ moment will take place in 2014 – and will determine whether the 21st century is full of violence and poverty or will be peaceful and prosperous.

[Arraya]

[quote=DWCAP][quote=Arraya]No, it most definitely will not, boom again.[/quote]

Sure it will, notice I didnt put any timeline on it. Maybe it will take 1000 years, but it will happen eventually, unless you think the extintion of the human race is nigh.[/quote]

lol… Well on a 1000 year time line, it’s feasible. Extinction on the other hand is an interesting concept to think about. We definitely have the potential and is something we may chose to do. I don’t mean chose, as in a shadowy group of rapture nuts deciding to let lose some nukes(which is not completely out of the question), more of like an alcoholic constantly drinking and driving until he kills himself. Which is kind of analogous to our cycles of collapsing empires we’ve been in for the past 7000 years and seem to be coming to the close of another one. A die-off is more likely scenario with our fatal social structures and poisonous ideologies unless we dramatically change. I tend to be an optimist and think we will do a 180 over the next few years and pull away from the abyss. Though, its not certain and we surely may continue or foolish ways

Speaking of:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287643/Human-race-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html#

As the scientist who helped eradicate smallpox he certainly know a thing or two about extinction.
And now Professor Frank Fenner, emeritus professor of microbiology at the Australian National University, has predicted that the human race will be extinct within the next 100 years.
He has claimed that the human race will be unable to survive a population explosion and ‘unbridled consumption

I tend to be more in line with this fellow from the same article, that we have a window…. not an specific timeline, though

And it comes after Professor Nicholas Boyle of Cambridge University said that a ‘Doomsday’ moment will take place in 2014 – and will determine whether the 21st century is full of violence and poverty or will be peaceful and prosperous.

[Arraya]

[quote=DWCAP][quote=Arraya]No, it most definitely will not, boom again.[/quote]

Sure it will, notice I didnt put any timeline on it. Maybe it will take 1000 years, but it will happen eventually, unless you think the extintion of the human race is nigh.[/quote]

lol… Well on a 1000 year time line, it’s feasible. Extinction on the other hand is an interesting concept to think about. We definitely have the potential and is something we may chose to do. I don’t mean chose, as in a shadowy group of rapture nuts deciding to let lose some nukes(which is not completely out of the question), more of like an alcoholic constantly drinking and driving until he kills himself. Which is kind of analogous to our cycles of collapsing empires we’ve been in for the past 7000 years and seem to be coming to the close of another one. A die-off is more likely scenario with our fatal social structures and poisonous ideologies unless we dramatically change. I tend to be an optimist and think we will do a 180 over the next few years and pull away from the abyss. Though, its not certain and we surely may continue or foolish ways

Speaking of:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287643/Human-race-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html#

As the scientist who helped eradicate smallpox he certainly know a thing or two about extinction.
And now Professor Frank Fenner, emeritus professor of microbiology at the Australian National University, has predicted that the human race will be extinct within the next 100 years.
He has claimed that the human race will be unable to survive a population explosion and ‘unbridled consumption

I tend to be more in line with this fellow from the same article, that we have a window…. not an specific timeline, though

And it comes after Professor Nicholas Boyle of Cambridge University said that a ‘Doomsday’ moment will take place in 2014 – and will determine whether the 21st century is full of violence and poverty or will be peaceful and prosperous.

[SK in CV]

[quote=outtamojo]
I shoulda said” with the less than trend household formation we are seeing now “(with the expectation that we would get more household formation when the economy eventually improves).

[/quote]

Now that you’ve changed what you said, it does make more sense. And just to clarify, I think what you’re saying is that recent lower household formation is a function of the lousy economy. Fair, and probably, at least in part, supported by the evidence. And that as the economy improves, higher new household formation will follow. The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.

The economy may improve, despite the downward trend that began in the early 80’s (thank you reaganomics!), thought it’s less than a certainty. What will not improve is the new household formation age group, which is a function of the birthrate from the late 70’s through the 90’s, and the babyboomers sharply reducing their housing footprint over the next 20 years.

The X factor is immigration.

[SK in CV]

[quote=outtamojo]
I shoulda said” with the less than trend household formation we are seeing now “(with the expectation that we would get more household formation when the economy eventually improves).

[/quote]

Now that you’ve changed what you said, it does make more sense. And just to clarify, I think what you’re saying is that recent lower household formation is a function of the lousy economy. Fair, and probably, at least in part, supported by the evidence. And that as the economy improves, higher new household formation will follow. The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.

The economy may improve, despite the downward trend that began in the early 80’s (thank you reaganomics!), thought it’s less than a certainty. What will not improve is the new household formation age group, which is a function of the birthrate from the late 70’s through the 90’s, and the babyboomers sharply reducing their housing footprint over the next 20 years.

The X factor is immigration.

[SK in CV]

[quote=outtamojo]
I shoulda said” with the less than trend household formation we are seeing now “(with the expectation that we would get more household formation when the economy eventually improves).

[/quote]

Now that you’ve changed what you said, it does make more sense. And just to clarify, I think what you’re saying is that recent lower household formation is a function of the lousy economy. Fair, and probably, at least in part, supported by the evidence. And that as the economy improves, higher new household formation will follow. The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.

The economy may improve, despite the downward trend that began in the early 80’s (thank you reaganomics!), thought it’s less than a certainty. What will not improve is the new household formation age group, which is a function of the birthrate from the late 70’s through the 90’s, and the babyboomers sharply reducing their housing footprint over the next 20 years.

The X factor is immigration.

[SK in CV]

[quote=outtamojo]
I shoulda said” with the less than trend household formation we are seeing now “(with the expectation that we would get more household formation when the economy eventually improves).

[/quote]

Now that you’ve changed what you said, it does make more sense. And just to clarify, I think what you’re saying is that recent lower household formation is a function of the lousy economy. Fair, and probably, at least in part, supported by the evidence. And that as the economy improves, higher new household formation will follow. The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.

The economy may improve, despite the downward trend that began in the early 80’s (thank you reaganomics!), thought it’s less than a certainty. What will not improve is the new household formation age group, which is a function of the birthrate from the late 70’s through the 90’s, and the babyboomers sharply reducing their housing footprint over the next 20 years.

The X factor is immigration.

[SK in CV]

[quote=outtamojo]
I shoulda said” with the less than trend household formation we are seeing now “(with the expectation that we would get more household formation when the economy eventually improves).

[/quote]

Now that you’ve changed what you said, it does make more sense. And just to clarify, I think what you’re saying is that recent lower household formation is a function of the lousy economy. Fair, and probably, at least in part, supported by the evidence. And that as the economy improves, higher new household formation will follow. The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.

The economy may improve, despite the downward trend that began in the early 80’s (thank you reaganomics!), thought it’s less than a certainty. What will not improve is the new household formation age group, which is a function of the birthrate from the late 70’s through the 90’s, and the babyboomers sharply reducing their housing footprint over the next 20 years.

The X factor is immigration.

[Arraya]

[quote=SK in CV]The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.
.[/quote]

Actually , energy trends are more important than anything. For energy is the basis of all economic activity. Juxtapose energy trends with demographic and you get monumentally faulty conclusions. Which is where we are at today. Declining net energy, shifting demographics and growing population all mired in debt — debt that requires, at this point, epic growth to pay back — epic growth which is a physical impossibility.

Perpetual economic growth is just a psychotic fantasy

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We are in yellow

[Arraya]

[quote=SK in CV]The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.
.[/quote]

Actually , energy trends are more important than anything. For energy is the basis of all economic activity. Juxtapose energy trends with demographic and you get monumentally faulty conclusions. Which is where we are at today. Declining net energy, shifting demographics and growing population all mired in debt — debt that requires, at this point, epic growth to pay back — epic growth which is a physical impossibility.

Perpetual economic growth is just a psychotic fantasy

[img_assist|nid=13530|title=..|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=652|height=350]

We are in yellow

[Arraya]

[quote=SK in CV]The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.
.[/quote]

Actually , energy trends are more important than anything. For energy is the basis of all economic activity. Juxtapose energy trends with demographic and you get monumentally faulty conclusions. Which is where we are at today. Declining net energy, shifting demographics and growing population all mired in debt — debt that requires, at this point, epic growth to pay back — epic growth which is a physical impossibility.

Perpetual economic growth is just a psychotic fantasy

[img_assist|nid=13530|title=..|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=652|height=350]

We are in yellow

[Arraya]

[quote=SK in CV]The problem with that forecast is that solely relying on economic trends and ignoring demographic trends can lead to faulty conclusions.
.[/quote]

Actually , energy trends are more important than anything. For energy is the basis of all economic activity. Juxtapose energy trends with demographic and you get monumentally faulty conclusions. Which is where we are at today. Declining net energy, shifting demographics and growing population all mired in debt — debt that requires, at this point, epic growth to pay back — epic growth which is a physical impossibility.

Perpetual economic growth is just a psychotic fantasy

[img_assist|nid=13530|title=..|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=652|height=350]

We are in yellow

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