New California Taxes!

[SD Realtor]

I could not agree more with turtle and rnen. Yes California is a progressive state but people should not confuse progressive with unsustainable spending. A state can have progressive moral standards AND operate within a proper budget.

However to make a blanket policy that we will operate a state in an insolvent manner (which is what we have been doing for a long long time) is ridiculous.

sdengineer have you been to Texas? I guess it is very easy to sit back and insinuate that Texas is not progressive but the state runs within budget, and has a public school system that is of MUCH higher quality then California, and is a quantumly better state with regards to operating a business there. It has no state income tax either. It also shares a border with Mexico as well and it is not immune from illegal immigration yet they seem to cope with it alot better then California.

At first glance it is hard to quantify why Texas can operate successfully but California cannot. However looking under the hood it is easy to see that the state legislature adheres to the budget they establish annually. Furthermore there is no stranglehold on the legislature by the unions.

So if people think that increasing spending and increasing taxes in a perpetual upward spiral is the way to go then so be it. In reality though it is essentially unsustainable and in the long run only leads to higher levels on inequity and subsidizations.

It is not working.

[DWCAP]

[quote=barnaby33]Taxes must rise, employment must fall, all one or the other simply isn’t possible.
Josh[/quote]

Why? What possible reason is there that we cant cut our way out of this? Companies and buisneess do it all the time. Some services will suffer, some may even end. If they were really that important, they will be picked up in the private sector for a fee. But I still dont see any reason why we couldnt cut our way out of this mess.

[DWCAP]

[quote=barnaby33]Taxes must rise, employment must fall, all one or the other simply isn’t possible.
Josh[/quote]

Why? What possible reason is there that we cant cut our way out of this? Companies and buisneess do it all the time. Some services will suffer, some may even end. If they were really that important, they will be picked up in the private sector for a fee. But I still dont see any reason why we couldnt cut our way out of this mess.

[DWCAP]

[quote=barnaby33]Taxes must rise, employment must fall, all one or the other simply isn’t possible.
Josh[/quote]

Why? What possible reason is there that we cant cut our way out of this? Companies and buisneess do it all the time. Some services will suffer, some may even end. If they were really that important, they will be picked up in the private sector for a fee. But I still dont see any reason why we couldnt cut our way out of this mess.

[DWCAP]

[quote=barnaby33]Taxes must rise, employment must fall, all one or the other simply isn’t possible.
Josh[/quote]

Why? What possible reason is there that we cant cut our way out of this? Companies and buisneess do it all the time. Some services will suffer, some may even end. If they were really that important, they will be picked up in the private sector for a fee. But I still dont see any reason why we couldnt cut our way out of this mess.

[DWCAP]

[quote=barnaby33]Taxes must rise, employment must fall, all one or the other simply isn’t possible.
Josh[/quote]

Why? What possible reason is there that we cant cut our way out of this? Companies and buisneess do it all the time. Some services will suffer, some may even end. If they were really that important, they will be picked up in the private sector for a fee. But I still dont see any reason why we couldnt cut our way out of this mess.

[fredo4]

I have no problem paying taxes for programs that actually work and are run properly, but how often is that the case with the public sector? One of the best examples is our public schools. No matter how much money we dump into them, the test scores just go further and further down.

The reason for this is because the majority of families who send their kids to public schools don’t value education. If they did, they’d make sure their kids could read and do math.

I’ll tell you a public program that I’d support whole heartedly and that is cutting the amount of school administrators in half and putting that money towards trade programs (plumbing, mechanics, electricians, computer skills).

Unfortunately this will never happen. The teachers’ union thrives on poor test scores. That way they can blame it on a lack of funding and collect more and more money each year.

SD realtor is completely right about the fact that the unions have a complete stranglehold on California. It’s very sad and frustrating.

[fredo4]

I have no problem paying taxes for programs that actually work and are run properly, but how often is that the case with the public sector? One of the best examples is our public schools. No matter how much money we dump into them, the test scores just go further and further down.

The reason for this is because the majority of families who send their kids to public schools don’t value education. If they did, they’d make sure their kids could read and do math.

I’ll tell you a public program that I’d support whole heartedly and that is cutting the amount of school administrators in half and putting that money towards trade programs (plumbing, mechanics, electricians, computer skills).

Unfortunately this will never happen. The teachers’ union thrives on poor test scores. That way they can blame it on a lack of funding and collect more and more money each year.

SD realtor is completely right about the fact that the unions have a complete stranglehold on California. It’s very sad and frustrating.

[fredo4]

I have no problem paying taxes for programs that actually work and are run properly, but how often is that the case with the public sector? One of the best examples is our public schools. No matter how much money we dump into them, the test scores just go further and further down.

The reason for this is because the majority of families who send their kids to public schools don’t value education. If they did, they’d make sure their kids could read and do math.

I’ll tell you a public program that I’d support whole heartedly and that is cutting the amount of school administrators in half and putting that money towards trade programs (plumbing, mechanics, electricians, computer skills).

Unfortunately this will never happen. The teachers’ union thrives on poor test scores. That way they can blame it on a lack of funding and collect more and more money each year.

SD realtor is completely right about the fact that the unions have a complete stranglehold on California. It’s very sad and frustrating.

[fredo4]

I have no problem paying taxes for programs that actually work and are run properly, but how often is that the case with the public sector? One of the best examples is our public schools. No matter how much money we dump into them, the test scores just go further and further down.

The reason for this is because the majority of families who send their kids to public schools don’t value education. If they did, they’d make sure their kids could read and do math.

I’ll tell you a public program that I’d support whole heartedly and that is cutting the amount of school administrators in half and putting that money towards trade programs (plumbing, mechanics, electricians, computer skills).

Unfortunately this will never happen. The teachers’ union thrives on poor test scores. That way they can blame it on a lack of funding and collect more and more money each year.

SD realtor is completely right about the fact that the unions have a complete stranglehold on California. It’s very sad and frustrating.

[fredo4]

I have no problem paying taxes for programs that actually work and are run properly, but how often is that the case with the public sector? One of the best examples is our public schools. No matter how much money we dump into them, the test scores just go further and further down.

The reason for this is because the majority of families who send their kids to public schools don’t value education. If they did, they’d make sure their kids could read and do math.

I’ll tell you a public program that I’d support whole heartedly and that is cutting the amount of school administrators in half and putting that money towards trade programs (plumbing, mechanics, electricians, computer skills).

Unfortunately this will never happen. The teachers’ union thrives on poor test scores. That way they can blame it on a lack of funding and collect more and more money each year.

SD realtor is completely right about the fact that the unions have a complete stranglehold on California. It’s very sad and frustrating.

[cr]

It’s okay when Democrats want to raise taxes, but not Republicans. At least KFI isn’t biased.

Politicians should not be allowed to make more money than the average income of the state that pays their salary.

Problem solved.

[cr]

It’s okay when Democrats want to raise taxes, but not Republicans. At least KFI isn’t biased.

Politicians should not be allowed to make more money than the average income of the state that pays their salary.

Problem solved.

[cr]

It’s okay when Democrats want to raise taxes, but not Republicans. At least KFI isn’t biased.

Politicians should not be allowed to make more money than the average income of the state that pays their salary.

Problem solved.

[cr]

It’s okay when Democrats want to raise taxes, but not Republicans. At least KFI isn’t biased.

Politicians should not be allowed to make more money than the average income of the state that pays their salary.

Problem solved.

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