New California Taxes!

[rnen]

SDEngineer

I do not have a problem with immigrants either, I do however have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants.
Not that I am putting you in this bunch but it always cracks me up that people with good high paying SKILLED jobs can manage to ignore the difference. My guess is that if thier high tech companies were suddenly hireing illegal immigrants at half the pay and see thier pay scale cut in half they would be whistling a different tune.

Maybe those “liberals” that have that point of view should climb down from thier ivory towers and see the impact of illegal immigrants on the blue collar LEGAL immigrants and citizens. I guess some how the illegals are more deserving than those who did not break into the counrty.

Oh yeah, the senate removed language in the the Obama spending bill that would have required a SS# to be eligable for some of the programs. Way too look out for the legal poor and working class Obama! Ahh yes, some bold change is on the horizon!

Sorry for the rant, but what can you expect from an obvious racist.

[Anonymous]

The truth is that all budget problems can be solved by cutting the budget and freezing spending. That is what any business in the private sector would do and what any household would do. They do not have the luxury of simply supplementing their budget with new sources of revenue.

California has the highest State Income Tax (that kicks in at the lowest level), highest corporate income tax & highest sales tax in the nation. Our problem isn’t insufficient taxation, it is piss poor budget management. The simple fact is that the State government must live within it’s means and if that means cutting staff, eliminating agencies and scaling back on government programs well that is just what it will take.

I can find no reason why government workers should be immune from necessary steps when times are tough. We must also never forget that government jobs are by definition non-productive jobs. They do not create wealth, they merely redistribute the wealth created by others.

Our legislature is incompetent and the governance of the State is broken. Taxes, while I am sure they will be increased, will simply drive more businesses and productive individuals out of the state, while simply putting off the inevitable day of reckoning into the future. The budgetary road we are on is unsustainable, no matter how hard we wish it just wasn’t so.

[Anonymous]

The truth is that all budget problems can be solved by cutting the budget and freezing spending. That is what any business in the private sector would do and what any household would do. They do not have the luxury of simply supplementing their budget with new sources of revenue.

California has the highest State Income Tax (that kicks in at the lowest level), highest corporate income tax & highest sales tax in the nation. Our problem isn’t insufficient taxation, it is piss poor budget management. The simple fact is that the State government must live within it’s means and if that means cutting staff, eliminating agencies and scaling back on government programs well that is just what it will take.

I can find no reason why government workers should be immune from necessary steps when times are tough. We must also never forget that government jobs are by definition non-productive jobs. They do not create wealth, they merely redistribute the wealth created by others.

Our legislature is incompetent and the governance of the State is broken. Taxes, while I am sure they will be increased, will simply drive more businesses and productive individuals out of the state, while simply putting off the inevitable day of reckoning into the future. The budgetary road we are on is unsustainable, no matter how hard we wish it just wasn’t so.

[Anonymous]

The truth is that all budget problems can be solved by cutting the budget and freezing spending. That is what any business in the private sector would do and what any household would do. They do not have the luxury of simply supplementing their budget with new sources of revenue.

California has the highest State Income Tax (that kicks in at the lowest level), highest corporate income tax & highest sales tax in the nation. Our problem isn’t insufficient taxation, it is piss poor budget management. The simple fact is that the State government must live within it’s means and if that means cutting staff, eliminating agencies and scaling back on government programs well that is just what it will take.

I can find no reason why government workers should be immune from necessary steps when times are tough. We must also never forget that government jobs are by definition non-productive jobs. They do not create wealth, they merely redistribute the wealth created by others.

Our legislature is incompetent and the governance of the State is broken. Taxes, while I am sure they will be increased, will simply drive more businesses and productive individuals out of the state, while simply putting off the inevitable day of reckoning into the future. The budgetary road we are on is unsustainable, no matter how hard we wish it just wasn’t so.

[Anonymous]

The truth is that all budget problems can be solved by cutting the budget and freezing spending. That is what any business in the private sector would do and what any household would do. They do not have the luxury of simply supplementing their budget with new sources of revenue.

California has the highest State Income Tax (that kicks in at the lowest level), highest corporate income tax & highest sales tax in the nation. Our problem isn’t insufficient taxation, it is piss poor budget management. The simple fact is that the State government must live within it’s means and if that means cutting staff, eliminating agencies and scaling back on government programs well that is just what it will take.

I can find no reason why government workers should be immune from necessary steps when times are tough. We must also never forget that government jobs are by definition non-productive jobs. They do not create wealth, they merely redistribute the wealth created by others.

Our legislature is incompetent and the governance of the State is broken. Taxes, while I am sure they will be increased, will simply drive more businesses and productive individuals out of the state, while simply putting off the inevitable day of reckoning into the future. The budgetary road we are on is unsustainable, no matter how hard we wish it just wasn’t so.

[Anonymous]

The truth is that all budget problems can be solved by cutting the budget and freezing spending. That is what any business in the private sector would do and what any household would do. They do not have the luxury of simply supplementing their budget with new sources of revenue.

California has the highest State Income Tax (that kicks in at the lowest level), highest corporate income tax & highest sales tax in the nation. Our problem isn’t insufficient taxation, it is piss poor budget management. The simple fact is that the State government must live within it’s means and if that means cutting staff, eliminating agencies and scaling back on government programs well that is just what it will take.

I can find no reason why government workers should be immune from necessary steps when times are tough. We must also never forget that government jobs are by definition non-productive jobs. They do not create wealth, they merely redistribute the wealth created by others.

Our legislature is incompetent and the governance of the State is broken. Taxes, while I am sure they will be increased, will simply drive more businesses and productive individuals out of the state, while simply putting off the inevitable day of reckoning into the future. The budgetary road we are on is unsustainable, no matter how hard we wish it just wasn’t so.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=SDEngineer].

I will support new taxes rather than see the progressive programs cut. I rather like the fact that my state actually looks out for the little guy
[/quote]

What are some of these programs and what percentage of the budget are they ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=SDEngineer].

I will support new taxes rather than see the progressive programs cut. I rather like the fact that my state actually looks out for the little guy
[/quote]

What are some of these programs and what percentage of the budget are they ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=SDEngineer].

I will support new taxes rather than see the progressive programs cut. I rather like the fact that my state actually looks out for the little guy
[/quote]

What are some of these programs and what percentage of the budget are they ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=SDEngineer].

I will support new taxes rather than see the progressive programs cut. I rather like the fact that my state actually looks out for the little guy
[/quote]

What are some of these programs and what percentage of the budget are they ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=SDEngineer].

I will support new taxes rather than see the progressive programs cut. I rather like the fact that my state actually looks out for the little guy
[/quote]

What are some of these programs and what percentage of the budget are they ?

[SD Realtor]

I could not agree more with turtle and rnen. Yes California is a progressive state but people should not confuse progressive with unsustainable spending. A state can have progressive moral standards AND operate within a proper budget.

However to make a blanket policy that we will operate a state in an insolvent manner (which is what we have been doing for a long long time) is ridiculous.

sdengineer have you been to Texas? I guess it is very easy to sit back and insinuate that Texas is not progressive but the state runs within budget, and has a public school system that is of MUCH higher quality then California, and is a quantumly better state with regards to operating a business there. It has no state income tax either. It also shares a border with Mexico as well and it is not immune from illegal immigration yet they seem to cope with it alot better then California.

At first glance it is hard to quantify why Texas can operate successfully but California cannot. However looking under the hood it is easy to see that the state legislature adheres to the budget they establish annually. Furthermore there is no stranglehold on the legislature by the unions.

So if people think that increasing spending and increasing taxes in a perpetual upward spiral is the way to go then so be it. In reality though it is essentially unsustainable and in the long run only leads to higher levels on inequity and subsidizations.

It is not working.

[SD Realtor]

I could not agree more with turtle and rnen. Yes California is a progressive state but people should not confuse progressive with unsustainable spending. A state can have progressive moral standards AND operate within a proper budget.

However to make a blanket policy that we will operate a state in an insolvent manner (which is what we have been doing for a long long time) is ridiculous.

sdengineer have you been to Texas? I guess it is very easy to sit back and insinuate that Texas is not progressive but the state runs within budget, and has a public school system that is of MUCH higher quality then California, and is a quantumly better state with regards to operating a business there. It has no state income tax either. It also shares a border with Mexico as well and it is not immune from illegal immigration yet they seem to cope with it alot better then California.

At first glance it is hard to quantify why Texas can operate successfully but California cannot. However looking under the hood it is easy to see that the state legislature adheres to the budget they establish annually. Furthermore there is no stranglehold on the legislature by the unions.

So if people think that increasing spending and increasing taxes in a perpetual upward spiral is the way to go then so be it. In reality though it is essentially unsustainable and in the long run only leads to higher levels on inequity and subsidizations.

It is not working.

[SD Realtor]

I could not agree more with turtle and rnen. Yes California is a progressive state but people should not confuse progressive with unsustainable spending. A state can have progressive moral standards AND operate within a proper budget.

However to make a blanket policy that we will operate a state in an insolvent manner (which is what we have been doing for a long long time) is ridiculous.

sdengineer have you been to Texas? I guess it is very easy to sit back and insinuate that Texas is not progressive but the state runs within budget, and has a public school system that is of MUCH higher quality then California, and is a quantumly better state with regards to operating a business there. It has no state income tax either. It also shares a border with Mexico as well and it is not immune from illegal immigration yet they seem to cope with it alot better then California.

At first glance it is hard to quantify why Texas can operate successfully but California cannot. However looking under the hood it is easy to see that the state legislature adheres to the budget they establish annually. Furthermore there is no stranglehold on the legislature by the unions.

So if people think that increasing spending and increasing taxes in a perpetual upward spiral is the way to go then so be it. In reality though it is essentially unsustainable and in the long run only leads to higher levels on inequity and subsidizations.

It is not working.

[SD Realtor]

I could not agree more with turtle and rnen. Yes California is a progressive state but people should not confuse progressive with unsustainable spending. A state can have progressive moral standards AND operate within a proper budget.

However to make a blanket policy that we will operate a state in an insolvent manner (which is what we have been doing for a long long time) is ridiculous.

sdengineer have you been to Texas? I guess it is very easy to sit back and insinuate that Texas is not progressive but the state runs within budget, and has a public school system that is of MUCH higher quality then California, and is a quantumly better state with regards to operating a business there. It has no state income tax either. It also shares a border with Mexico as well and it is not immune from illegal immigration yet they seem to cope with it alot better then California.

At first glance it is hard to quantify why Texas can operate successfully but California cannot. However looking under the hood it is easy to see that the state legislature adheres to the budget they establish annually. Furthermore there is no stranglehold on the legislature by the unions.

So if people think that increasing spending and increasing taxes in a perpetual upward spiral is the way to go then so be it. In reality though it is essentially unsustainable and in the long run only leads to higher levels on inequity and subsidizations.

It is not working.

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