New California Taxes!

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[quote=lubenthrust][quote=rnen]My guess is that if thier high tech companies were suddenly hireing illegal immigrants at half the pay and see thier pay scale cut in half they would be whistling a different tune.[/quote]

Yes, this happens quite frequently, actually. It’s called outsourcing. Except the “illegal immigrants” stay in their own countries, and the workers here see their pay cut 100% rather than in half.

[quote=rnen]Oh yeah, the senate removed language in the the Obama spending bill that would have required a SS# to be eligable for some of the programs. Way too look out for the legal poor and working class Obama! Ahh yes, some bold change is on the horizon![/quote]

If this is sarcasm, which is likely given the tone of the rest of your post, this comment makes no sense whatsoever. Is Obama responsible for the removal of the SSN eligibility requirement, or is the Senate? Think carefully.[/quote]

And this somehow makes illegal immigration into the country OK??? The blue collar worker should just suck it up because the white collar worker is seeing his job outsourced????

Are the workers in thier own countries also having thier kids education and families health care provided by the American tax payer while contributing very little or nothing to the tax base?

Point taken on the SS issue, I’ll give you that one although I have not heard him make any objection to its removal. As wrong as it is I can see the motivation for a republican to want this out of the bill, being that they are corrupted by big business and all, but what motivates democrates to screw the very people they say they are here to protect? They are the party for the working man arent they?

Ugh… can’t seem to shake the sarcasm… sorry:)

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but what motivates democrates to screw the very people they say they are here to protect? They are the party for the working man arent they?

Yeah right, they only difference is Republicans are honest about being assholes.

[Arraya]

but what motivates democrates to screw the very people they say they are here to protect? They are the party for the working man arent they?

Yeah right, they only difference is Republicans are honest about being assholes.

[Arraya]

but what motivates democrates to screw the very people they say they are here to protect? They are the party for the working man arent they?

Yeah right, they only difference is Republicans are honest about being assholes.

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but what motivates democrates to screw the very people they say they are here to protect? They are the party for the working man arent they?

Yeah right, they only difference is Republicans are honest about being assholes.

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but what motivates democrates to screw the very people they say they are here to protect? They are the party for the working man arent they?

Yeah right, they only difference is Republicans are honest about being assholes.

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[quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve.

[fredo4]

[quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve.

[fredo4]

[quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve.

[fredo4]

[quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve.

[fredo4]

[quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve.

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[quote=fredo4][quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve. [/quote]

Well, they may be smarter than you give them credit for. Most of those voters are not too bright, or not too hardworking, or not too well educated or trained. For them, getting a bigger piece of a smaller pie may actually make sense.

In the long run, we’ll all be better off if we do what’s most productive, and Arnold’s initiatives were in the right direction for that, but the payoff for the less productive people in society might not be for 20-30 years, or never for some.

[patientrenter]

[quote=fredo4][quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve. [/quote]

Well, they may be smarter than you give them credit for. Most of those voters are not too bright, or not too hardworking, or not too well educated or trained. For them, getting a bigger piece of a smaller pie may actually make sense.

In the long run, we’ll all be better off if we do what’s most productive, and Arnold’s initiatives were in the right direction for that, but the payoff for the less productive people in society might not be for 20-30 years, or never for some.

[patientrenter]

[quote=fredo4][quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve. [/quote]

Well, they may be smarter than you give them credit for. Most of those voters are not too bright, or not too hardworking, or not too well educated or trained. For them, getting a bigger piece of a smaller pie may actually make sense.

In the long run, we’ll all be better off if we do what’s most productive, and Arnold’s initiatives were in the right direction for that, but the payoff for the less productive people in society might not be for 20-30 years, or never for some.

[patientrenter]

[quote=fredo4][quote=ralphfurley]

CA voters are idiots. They want everything and don’t want to pay for it. The ballot measures that passed last election are proof of that.[/quote]

I agree with Mr. Furley, I gave up on California voters after Arnold’s ballot initiatives failed so miserably a few years ago. If the people of this state are that stupid, however unfortunate it is for me, they get what they deserve. [/quote]

Well, they may be smarter than you give them credit for. Most of those voters are not too bright, or not too hardworking, or not too well educated or trained. For them, getting a bigger piece of a smaller pie may actually make sense.

In the long run, we’ll all be better off if we do what’s most productive, and Arnold’s initiatives were in the right direction for that, but the payoff for the less productive people in society might not be for 20-30 years, or never for some.

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