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January 5, 2008 at 8:47 AM #130115January 5, 2008 at 9:16 AM #12984834f3f3fParticipant
I could not even get a quarter way through the Naomi Wolf clip …it was just a little contrived and frankly boring. Was there actually an a real audience there? To compare contemporary US society with Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Russia, and Mussolini’s Italy seems to be stretching reality a little, but no doubt makes for an interesting book. The US economy is starting to flounder, but that’s in the order of economic cycles. Some terrorists took a swipe at the US, and the wrong man was in charge at the time. Health care is in crisis, but it is in every modern society. US self confidence is at an all time low, and that’s when doom and gloom merchants start to cash in.
Prohibition, the Great Depression, world wars, oppression, dictators, famine, no freedom of speech, no freedom of movement, police states, no elections, and the list goes on, are things most Americans have no experience of, and I see no evidence of it in any serious measure.
My only criticism of US society is that not enough people keep themselves informed about things going on around them. I was appalled when a Stanford graduate told me recently he did not know who Bhutto was. There needs to be far more newspapers, balanced documentaries, and debates. That will peg thinking to reality and deter too many flights of fancy into cukoo land. The checks and balances are as much about the media as anything else, and the more prevalent it is, the more accountability becomes a mainstay.
January 5, 2008 at 9:16 AM #13002034f3f3fParticipantI could not even get a quarter way through the Naomi Wolf clip …it was just a little contrived and frankly boring. Was there actually an a real audience there? To compare contemporary US society with Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Russia, and Mussolini’s Italy seems to be stretching reality a little, but no doubt makes for an interesting book. The US economy is starting to flounder, but that’s in the order of economic cycles. Some terrorists took a swipe at the US, and the wrong man was in charge at the time. Health care is in crisis, but it is in every modern society. US self confidence is at an all time low, and that’s when doom and gloom merchants start to cash in.
Prohibition, the Great Depression, world wars, oppression, dictators, famine, no freedom of speech, no freedom of movement, police states, no elections, and the list goes on, are things most Americans have no experience of, and I see no evidence of it in any serious measure.
My only criticism of US society is that not enough people keep themselves informed about things going on around them. I was appalled when a Stanford graduate told me recently he did not know who Bhutto was. There needs to be far more newspapers, balanced documentaries, and debates. That will peg thinking to reality and deter too many flights of fancy into cukoo land. The checks and balances are as much about the media as anything else, and the more prevalent it is, the more accountability becomes a mainstay.
January 5, 2008 at 9:16 AM #13002434f3f3fParticipantI could not even get a quarter way through the Naomi Wolf clip …it was just a little contrived and frankly boring. Was there actually an a real audience there? To compare contemporary US society with Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Russia, and Mussolini’s Italy seems to be stretching reality a little, but no doubt makes for an interesting book. The US economy is starting to flounder, but that’s in the order of economic cycles. Some terrorists took a swipe at the US, and the wrong man was in charge at the time. Health care is in crisis, but it is in every modern society. US self confidence is at an all time low, and that’s when doom and gloom merchants start to cash in.
Prohibition, the Great Depression, world wars, oppression, dictators, famine, no freedom of speech, no freedom of movement, police states, no elections, and the list goes on, are things most Americans have no experience of, and I see no evidence of it in any serious measure.
My only criticism of US society is that not enough people keep themselves informed about things going on around them. I was appalled when a Stanford graduate told me recently he did not know who Bhutto was. There needs to be far more newspapers, balanced documentaries, and debates. That will peg thinking to reality and deter too many flights of fancy into cukoo land. The checks and balances are as much about the media as anything else, and the more prevalent it is, the more accountability becomes a mainstay.
January 5, 2008 at 9:16 AM #13009434f3f3fParticipantI could not even get a quarter way through the Naomi Wolf clip …it was just a little contrived and frankly boring. Was there actually an a real audience there? To compare contemporary US society with Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Russia, and Mussolini’s Italy seems to be stretching reality a little, but no doubt makes for an interesting book. The US economy is starting to flounder, but that’s in the order of economic cycles. Some terrorists took a swipe at the US, and the wrong man was in charge at the time. Health care is in crisis, but it is in every modern society. US self confidence is at an all time low, and that’s when doom and gloom merchants start to cash in.
Prohibition, the Great Depression, world wars, oppression, dictators, famine, no freedom of speech, no freedom of movement, police states, no elections, and the list goes on, are things most Americans have no experience of, and I see no evidence of it in any serious measure.
My only criticism of US society is that not enough people keep themselves informed about things going on around them. I was appalled when a Stanford graduate told me recently he did not know who Bhutto was. There needs to be far more newspapers, balanced documentaries, and debates. That will peg thinking to reality and deter too many flights of fancy into cukoo land. The checks and balances are as much about the media as anything else, and the more prevalent it is, the more accountability becomes a mainstay.
January 5, 2008 at 9:16 AM #13012534f3f3fParticipantI could not even get a quarter way through the Naomi Wolf clip …it was just a little contrived and frankly boring. Was there actually an a real audience there? To compare contemporary US society with Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Russia, and Mussolini’s Italy seems to be stretching reality a little, but no doubt makes for an interesting book. The US economy is starting to flounder, but that’s in the order of economic cycles. Some terrorists took a swipe at the US, and the wrong man was in charge at the time. Health care is in crisis, but it is in every modern society. US self confidence is at an all time low, and that’s when doom and gloom merchants start to cash in.
Prohibition, the Great Depression, world wars, oppression, dictators, famine, no freedom of speech, no freedom of movement, police states, no elections, and the list goes on, are things most Americans have no experience of, and I see no evidence of it in any serious measure.
My only criticism of US society is that not enough people keep themselves informed about things going on around them. I was appalled when a Stanford graduate told me recently he did not know who Bhutto was. There needs to be far more newspapers, balanced documentaries, and debates. That will peg thinking to reality and deter too many flights of fancy into cukoo land. The checks and balances are as much about the media as anything else, and the more prevalent it is, the more accountability becomes a mainstay.
January 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM #129883Allan from FallbrookParticipantqwerty: I agree with your assessment of Naomi Wolf. She is a very self-aggrandizing post-feminist author (“The Beauty Myth”), and is especially noted for her sloppy scholarship and temper tantrums when questioned about her “facts”.
I also agree with your overall view of the strength of the US to survive some pretty serious privations and come out intact.
That being said, there are some aspects to the Patriot Acts (I and II) that concern me. There are also some NSA programs out there (Carnivore and Echelon) that are worrisome, too. There is a new level of intrusiveness out there, and it is not all directly attrituable to Dubya (Clinton was responsible for implementing the one NSA program in 1994).
As far as an informed citizenry goes: Hell, most high school kids can’t even find Europe on a map.
January 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM #130057Allan from FallbrookParticipantqwerty: I agree with your assessment of Naomi Wolf. She is a very self-aggrandizing post-feminist author (“The Beauty Myth”), and is especially noted for her sloppy scholarship and temper tantrums when questioned about her “facts”.
I also agree with your overall view of the strength of the US to survive some pretty serious privations and come out intact.
That being said, there are some aspects to the Patriot Acts (I and II) that concern me. There are also some NSA programs out there (Carnivore and Echelon) that are worrisome, too. There is a new level of intrusiveness out there, and it is not all directly attrituable to Dubya (Clinton was responsible for implementing the one NSA program in 1994).
As far as an informed citizenry goes: Hell, most high school kids can’t even find Europe on a map.
January 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM #130060Allan from FallbrookParticipantqwerty: I agree with your assessment of Naomi Wolf. She is a very self-aggrandizing post-feminist author (“The Beauty Myth”), and is especially noted for her sloppy scholarship and temper tantrums when questioned about her “facts”.
I also agree with your overall view of the strength of the US to survive some pretty serious privations and come out intact.
That being said, there are some aspects to the Patriot Acts (I and II) that concern me. There are also some NSA programs out there (Carnivore and Echelon) that are worrisome, too. There is a new level of intrusiveness out there, and it is not all directly attrituable to Dubya (Clinton was responsible for implementing the one NSA program in 1994).
As far as an informed citizenry goes: Hell, most high school kids can’t even find Europe on a map.
January 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM #130129Allan from FallbrookParticipantqwerty: I agree with your assessment of Naomi Wolf. She is a very self-aggrandizing post-feminist author (“The Beauty Myth”), and is especially noted for her sloppy scholarship and temper tantrums when questioned about her “facts”.
I also agree with your overall view of the strength of the US to survive some pretty serious privations and come out intact.
That being said, there are some aspects to the Patriot Acts (I and II) that concern me. There are also some NSA programs out there (Carnivore and Echelon) that are worrisome, too. There is a new level of intrusiveness out there, and it is not all directly attrituable to Dubya (Clinton was responsible for implementing the one NSA program in 1994).
As far as an informed citizenry goes: Hell, most high school kids can’t even find Europe on a map.
January 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM #130160Allan from FallbrookParticipantqwerty: I agree with your assessment of Naomi Wolf. She is a very self-aggrandizing post-feminist author (“The Beauty Myth”), and is especially noted for her sloppy scholarship and temper tantrums when questioned about her “facts”.
I also agree with your overall view of the strength of the US to survive some pretty serious privations and come out intact.
That being said, there are some aspects to the Patriot Acts (I and II) that concern me. There are also some NSA programs out there (Carnivore and Echelon) that are worrisome, too. There is a new level of intrusiveness out there, and it is not all directly attrituable to Dubya (Clinton was responsible for implementing the one NSA program in 1994).
As far as an informed citizenry goes: Hell, most high school kids can’t even find Europe on a map.
January 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM #129888speedingpulletParticipantRe: Mass American Ignorance…
To quote the brilliant W.C. Fields:
“you can lead a whore to culture, but you can’t make her think…”
January 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM #130062speedingpulletParticipantRe: Mass American Ignorance…
To quote the brilliant W.C. Fields:
“you can lead a whore to culture, but you can’t make her think…”
January 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM #130065speedingpulletParticipantRe: Mass American Ignorance…
To quote the brilliant W.C. Fields:
“you can lead a whore to culture, but you can’t make her think…”
January 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM #130134speedingpulletParticipantRe: Mass American Ignorance…
To quote the brilliant W.C. Fields:
“you can lead a whore to culture, but you can’t make her think…”
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