Murrieta/Temecula to get High Speed Rail Station

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BTW, just for context, I take public transport more than most.

I take the bus from Lindberg Field to the Trolley station at America Plaza, downtown, when I travel to and from the airport.

I take the Amtrak to Orange County and LA about once every other month.

The trolley and the coaster, if they went into the airport would get much more use. People would just drop-off their friends and relatives at the trolley/coaster station instead of driving into the airport.

[briansd1]

Interesting article on high-speed train.

It’s interesting that the Heritage Foundation believe that we will continue to suburbanize. That would work out well for the Republican party.

I actually believe that they are right, unless we can build dense but affordable, $200/sf or less, urban condos with low HOA fees.

That’s good news to people who think high-speed rail is a waste of money.

Using lower estimates of ridership and the belief that the country will continue to suburbanize, critics say high-speed rail is an expensive, old technology that isn’t even any cleaner than cars.

“It’s the most expensive way to move passengers from A to B,” said Ron Utt, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “Of all the things the government has to do, are they really going to say ‘Yeah, let’s have high-speed rail.’ ”

As for that $8 billion in stimulus money, Utt is skeptical California or Florida will be able to raise the matching funds to get the projects done.

[briansd1]

Interesting article on high-speed train.

It’s interesting that the Heritage Foundation believe that we will continue to suburbanize. That would work out well for the Republican party.

I actually believe that they are right, unless we can build dense but affordable, $200/sf or less, urban condos with low HOA fees.

That’s good news to people who think high-speed rail is a waste of money.

Using lower estimates of ridership and the belief that the country will continue to suburbanize, critics say high-speed rail is an expensive, old technology that isn’t even any cleaner than cars.

“It’s the most expensive way to move passengers from A to B,” said Ron Utt, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “Of all the things the government has to do, are they really going to say ‘Yeah, let’s have high-speed rail.’ ”

As for that $8 billion in stimulus money, Utt is skeptical California or Florida will be able to raise the matching funds to get the projects done.

[briansd1]

Interesting article on high-speed train.

It’s interesting that the Heritage Foundation believe that we will continue to suburbanize. That would work out well for the Republican party.

I actually believe that they are right, unless we can build dense but affordable, $200/sf or less, urban condos with low HOA fees.

That’s good news to people who think high-speed rail is a waste of money.

Using lower estimates of ridership and the belief that the country will continue to suburbanize, critics say high-speed rail is an expensive, old technology that isn’t even any cleaner than cars.

“It’s the most expensive way to move passengers from A to B,” said Ron Utt, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “Of all the things the government has to do, are they really going to say ‘Yeah, let’s have high-speed rail.’ ”

As for that $8 billion in stimulus money, Utt is skeptical California or Florida will be able to raise the matching funds to get the projects done.

[briansd1]

Interesting article on high-speed train.

It’s interesting that the Heritage Foundation believe that we will continue to suburbanize. That would work out well for the Republican party.

I actually believe that they are right, unless we can build dense but affordable, $200/sf or less, urban condos with low HOA fees.

That’s good news to people who think high-speed rail is a waste of money.

Using lower estimates of ridership and the belief that the country will continue to suburbanize, critics say high-speed rail is an expensive, old technology that isn’t even any cleaner than cars.

“It’s the most expensive way to move passengers from A to B,” said Ron Utt, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “Of all the things the government has to do, are they really going to say ‘Yeah, let’s have high-speed rail.’ ”

As for that $8 billion in stimulus money, Utt is skeptical California or Florida will be able to raise the matching funds to get the projects done.

[briansd1]

Interesting article on high-speed train.

It’s interesting that the Heritage Foundation believe that we will continue to suburbanize. That would work out well for the Republican party.

I actually believe that they are right, unless we can build dense but affordable, $200/sf or less, urban condos with low HOA fees.

That’s good news to people who think high-speed rail is a waste of money.

Using lower estimates of ridership and the belief that the country will continue to suburbanize, critics say high-speed rail is an expensive, old technology that isn’t even any cleaner than cars.

“It’s the most expensive way to move passengers from A to B,” said Ron Utt, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “Of all the things the government has to do, are they really going to say ‘Yeah, let’s have high-speed rail.’ ”

As for that $8 billion in stimulus money, Utt is skeptical California or Florida will be able to raise the matching funds to get the projects done.

[AK]

Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.

I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.

[AK]

Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.

I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.

[AK]

Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.

I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.

[AK]

Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.

I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.

[AK]

Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.

I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.
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30 years in a transit-happy area…

San Diego is suburbia built mostly after WWII. Mass-transit unfriendly.

Will most of us here on Piggington still be alive in 30 years and beyond to enjoy a train ride into the airport?

Suppose they connect the trolley to the airport in 20 years. Then the airport is moved. Wait another 30 years.

BTW, St Louis has had the Metrolink to the airport for more than a decade. You can drop-off and pick-up passengers at any Metrolink station instead of driving to the airport. Very convenient.

Also, the major casinos in Vegas have a private monorail. Why not connect it directly the airport to move million of passengers?

We are making progress… But I wouldn’t expect a convenient European/Asian style mass transit network in So Cal in my lifetime.

[quote=AK]
I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.
[/quote]

Have not been to Atlanta. I need to check it out. Next time I go to Florida, I’ll take an Atlanta connection just out of curiosity. That means flying Delta or Air Tran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Atlanta_Rapid_Transit_Authority

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.
[/quote]

30 years in a transit-happy area…

San Diego is suburbia built mostly after WWII. Mass-transit unfriendly.

Will most of us here on Piggington still be alive in 30 years and beyond to enjoy a train ride into the airport?

Suppose they connect the trolley to the airport in 20 years. Then the airport is moved. Wait another 30 years.

BTW, St Louis has had the Metrolink to the airport for more than a decade. You can drop-off and pick-up passengers at any Metrolink station instead of driving to the airport. Very convenient.

Also, the major casinos in Vegas have a private monorail. Why not connect it directly the airport to move million of passengers?

We are making progress… But I wouldn’t expect a convenient European/Asian style mass transit network in So Cal in my lifetime.

[quote=AK]
I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.
[/quote]

Have not been to Atlanta. I need to check it out. Next time I go to Florida, I’ll take an Atlanta connection just out of curiosity. That means flying Delta or Air Tran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Atlanta_Rapid_Transit_Authority

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.
[/quote]

30 years in a transit-happy area…

San Diego is suburbia built mostly after WWII. Mass-transit unfriendly.

Will most of us here on Piggington still be alive in 30 years and beyond to enjoy a train ride into the airport?

Suppose they connect the trolley to the airport in 20 years. Then the airport is moved. Wait another 30 years.

BTW, St Louis has had the Metrolink to the airport for more than a decade. You can drop-off and pick-up passengers at any Metrolink station instead of driving to the airport. Very convenient.

Also, the major casinos in Vegas have a private monorail. Why not connect it directly the airport to move million of passengers?

We are making progress… But I wouldn’t expect a convenient European/Asian style mass transit network in So Cal in my lifetime.

[quote=AK]
I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.
[/quote]

Have not been to Atlanta. I need to check it out. Next time I go to Florida, I’ll take an Atlanta connection just out of curiosity. That means flying Delta or Air Tran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Atlanta_Rapid_Transit_Authority

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]Look at San Francisco … it took 30 years of fighting the taxi lobby to get BART extended to the airport, and that’s in a transit-happy area.
[/quote]

30 years in a transit-happy area…

San Diego is suburbia built mostly after WWII. Mass-transit unfriendly.

Will most of us here on Piggington still be alive in 30 years and beyond to enjoy a train ride into the airport?

Suppose they connect the trolley to the airport in 20 years. Then the airport is moved. Wait another 30 years.

BTW, St Louis has had the Metrolink to the airport for more than a decade. You can drop-off and pick-up passengers at any Metrolink station instead of driving to the airport. Very convenient.

Also, the major casinos in Vegas have a private monorail. Why not connect it directly the airport to move million of passengers?

We are making progress… But I wouldn’t expect a convenient European/Asian style mass transit network in So Cal in my lifetime.

[quote=AK]
I’m not saying it’s hopeless … Look at Atlanta … cabs are inconveniently located and it’s very hard to find a shuttle, because everyone takes MARTA to and from the airport.
[/quote]

Have not been to Atlanta. I need to check it out. Next time I go to Florida, I’ll take an Atlanta connection just out of curiosity. That means flying Delta or Air Tran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Atlanta_Rapid_Transit_Authority

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