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[Raybyrnes]

rocket science
“Next we will not want to take responsibility for pouring hot coffee in our laps and blame the seller of said coffee for making it hot.”

Little off topic but I felt you might wnat to educate yourself before throwing out this statement. I assume you are referrign to Stellaa Stubeck from the McDonalds case.

McDonalds had over 1000 compliants about the coffee being excessively hot . There were other burn victims who ahd taken Mcdonalds to court and McDonalds had won the cases. Stella’s attorney had beaten McDonalds on one of the cases and offered to settle for around 20K . McDonalds refused to settle.

McDonalds had also recieved numerous requests from the Shriners in regards to the dangerous temperature of their coffee. They dismissed the complaints.

When McDonalds was ultimately found negligent the victim earned money for paind and suffereing and McDonalds had to pay punitive damages. The punitive damage equated to less than 1 day of coffee sales.

Additioanlly the dmaages were capped so the award was bogus.

Stella stuback suffered disfoming and permanent damage to her vaginal area becaese McDonalds negligence, After all the legal fees and negotiation she earned less than a couple hundred thousands.

Just thought you might want tto know the truth of the McDonalds myth.

[HereWeGo]

eh, I like Starbucks better anyway.

Agreed about the tightening of credit. Remember, for every dollar lent, there must be a dollar saved. Put yourself in the shoes of the “saver” making the loan, even if that saver is ultimately a pension fund or a foreign bank.

[HereWeGo]

eh, I like Starbucks better anyway.

Agreed about the tightening of credit. Remember, for every dollar lent, there must be a dollar saved. Put yourself in the shoes of the “saver” making the loan, even if that saver is ultimately a pension fund or a foreign bank.

[HereWeGo]

eh, I like Starbucks better anyway.

Agreed about the tightening of credit. Remember, for every dollar lent, there must be a dollar saved. Put yourself in the shoes of the “saver” making the loan, even if that saver is ultimately a pension fund or a foreign bank.

[HereWeGo]

eh, I like Starbucks better anyway.

Agreed about the tightening of credit. Remember, for every dollar lent, there must be a dollar saved. Put yourself in the shoes of the “saver” making the loan, even if that saver is ultimately a pension fund or a foreign bank.

[HereWeGo]

eh, I like Starbucks better anyway.

Agreed about the tightening of credit. Remember, for every dollar lent, there must be a dollar saved. Put yourself in the shoes of the “saver” making the loan, even if that saver is ultimately a pension fund or a foreign bank.

[equalizer]

McD is one of the biggest television advertisers in the world, so of course TV would not present any facts.

The McMyth case: Please read the link below, the actual facts speak for themselves. She asked only for medical costs which were 10-20K, but they offered $500, so he sued.

http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

There were already 700 reports of scalding burns(mostly child employees) settled for $500,000. Here is one ex:
“Now, plotting Mrs. Liebeck’s case, Mr. Morgan planned to introduce photographs of his previous client’s injuries and those of a California woman who suffered second- and third-degree burns after a McDonald’s employee spilled hot coffee into her vehicle in 1990, a case that was settled out of court for $230,000.

A court-appointed mediator recommended that McDonald’s settle for $225,000, but the company refused, went to trial — and was hit with $200,000 in compensatory damages (reduced to $160,000 as the jury attributed 20% of the fault to the woman for having the coffee in her lap), and $2.7 million in punitive damages Even that was later reduced to $480,000, but before the appeals could be decided, the woman and McDonald’s settled privately with undisclosed and confidential terms, likely $225,000 minus lawyer costs for 2 years of debilating injuries.

[equalizer]

McD is one of the biggest television advertisers in the world, so of course TV would not present any facts.

The McMyth case: Please read the link below, the actual facts speak for themselves. She asked only for medical costs which were 10-20K, but they offered $500, so he sued.

http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

There were already 700 reports of scalding burns(mostly child employees) settled for $500,000. Here is one ex:
“Now, plotting Mrs. Liebeck’s case, Mr. Morgan planned to introduce photographs of his previous client’s injuries and those of a California woman who suffered second- and third-degree burns after a McDonald’s employee spilled hot coffee into her vehicle in 1990, a case that was settled out of court for $230,000.

A court-appointed mediator recommended that McDonald’s settle for $225,000, but the company refused, went to trial — and was hit with $200,000 in compensatory damages (reduced to $160,000 as the jury attributed 20% of the fault to the woman for having the coffee in her lap), and $2.7 million in punitive damages Even that was later reduced to $480,000, but before the appeals could be decided, the woman and McDonald’s settled privately with undisclosed and confidential terms, likely $225,000 minus lawyer costs for 2 years of debilating injuries.

[equalizer]

McD is one of the biggest television advertisers in the world, so of course TV would not present any facts.

The McMyth case: Please read the link below, the actual facts speak for themselves. She asked only for medical costs which were 10-20K, but they offered $500, so he sued.

http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

There were already 700 reports of scalding burns(mostly child employees) settled for $500,000. Here is one ex:
“Now, plotting Mrs. Liebeck’s case, Mr. Morgan planned to introduce photographs of his previous client’s injuries and those of a California woman who suffered second- and third-degree burns after a McDonald’s employee spilled hot coffee into her vehicle in 1990, a case that was settled out of court for $230,000.

A court-appointed mediator recommended that McDonald’s settle for $225,000, but the company refused, went to trial — and was hit with $200,000 in compensatory damages (reduced to $160,000 as the jury attributed 20% of the fault to the woman for having the coffee in her lap), and $2.7 million in punitive damages Even that was later reduced to $480,000, but before the appeals could be decided, the woman and McDonald’s settled privately with undisclosed and confidential terms, likely $225,000 minus lawyer costs for 2 years of debilating injuries.

[equalizer]

McD is one of the biggest television advertisers in the world, so of course TV would not present any facts.

The McMyth case: Please read the link below, the actual facts speak for themselves. She asked only for medical costs which were 10-20K, but they offered $500, so he sued.

http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

There were already 700 reports of scalding burns(mostly child employees) settled for $500,000. Here is one ex:
“Now, plotting Mrs. Liebeck’s case, Mr. Morgan planned to introduce photographs of his previous client’s injuries and those of a California woman who suffered second- and third-degree burns after a McDonald’s employee spilled hot coffee into her vehicle in 1990, a case that was settled out of court for $230,000.

A court-appointed mediator recommended that McDonald’s settle for $225,000, but the company refused, went to trial — and was hit with $200,000 in compensatory damages (reduced to $160,000 as the jury attributed 20% of the fault to the woman for having the coffee in her lap), and $2.7 million in punitive damages Even that was later reduced to $480,000, but before the appeals could be decided, the woman and McDonald’s settled privately with undisclosed and confidential terms, likely $225,000 minus lawyer costs for 2 years of debilating injuries.

[equalizer]

McD is one of the biggest television advertisers in the world, so of course TV would not present any facts.

The McMyth case: Please read the link below, the actual facts speak for themselves. She asked only for medical costs which were 10-20K, but they offered $500, so he sued.

http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

There were already 700 reports of scalding burns(mostly child employees) settled for $500,000. Here is one ex:
“Now, plotting Mrs. Liebeck’s case, Mr. Morgan planned to introduce photographs of his previous client’s injuries and those of a California woman who suffered second- and third-degree burns after a McDonald’s employee spilled hot coffee into her vehicle in 1990, a case that was settled out of court for $230,000.

A court-appointed mediator recommended that McDonald’s settle for $225,000, but the company refused, went to trial — and was hit with $200,000 in compensatory damages (reduced to $160,000 as the jury attributed 20% of the fault to the woman for having the coffee in her lap), and $2.7 million in punitive damages Even that was later reduced to $480,000, but before the appeals could be decided, the woman and McDonald’s settled privately with undisclosed and confidential terms, likely $225,000 minus lawyer costs for 2 years of debilating injuries.

[nostradamus]

Whoa I find this absurd. Are you guys litigators?

Stella, for whom the famous Stella Awards for ridiculous lawsuits are named, ordered a hot drink and burned herself with it. Whether 1, 100, or 1000 idiots before her complained of the same thing, it only proves there are a lot of idiots out there.

More about Stella:

http://www.stellaawards.com/stella.html

The coffee in question was 180 degrees. The National Coffee Association recommends coffee be brewed at “between 195-205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction” and drunk “immediately”. If not drunk immediately, it should be “maintained at 180-185 degrees Fahrenheit.”

Coffee and tea are typically made by boiling or evaporated water (can’t get any hotter than that). Are we to invent some new process so it won’t be so hot?

Is there no such thing as personal liability any more? Is everything someone else’s fault? One thing brought up on that lawsuit was that there wasn’t a “proper warning label” that… DUH… coffee is hot.

I completely side with Mickey D’s on this one and I too would have shrugged off any complaints that “the hot drink I ordered is hot”. whut the fack?

[nostradamus]

Whoa I find this absurd. Are you guys litigators?

Stella, for whom the famous Stella Awards for ridiculous lawsuits are named, ordered a hot drink and burned herself with it. Whether 1, 100, or 1000 idiots before her complained of the same thing, it only proves there are a lot of idiots out there.

More about Stella:

http://www.stellaawards.com/stella.html

The coffee in question was 180 degrees. The National Coffee Association recommends coffee be brewed at “between 195-205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction” and drunk “immediately”. If not drunk immediately, it should be “maintained at 180-185 degrees Fahrenheit.”

Coffee and tea are typically made by boiling or evaporated water (can’t get any hotter than that). Are we to invent some new process so it won’t be so hot?

Is there no such thing as personal liability any more? Is everything someone else’s fault? One thing brought up on that lawsuit was that there wasn’t a “proper warning label” that… DUH… coffee is hot.

I completely side with Mickey D’s on this one and I too would have shrugged off any complaints that “the hot drink I ordered is hot”. whut the fack?

[nostradamus]

Whoa I find this absurd. Are you guys litigators?

Stella, for whom the famous Stella Awards for ridiculous lawsuits are named, ordered a hot drink and burned herself with it. Whether 1, 100, or 1000 idiots before her complained of the same thing, it only proves there are a lot of idiots out there.

More about Stella:

http://www.stellaawards.com/stella.html

The coffee in question was 180 degrees. The National Coffee Association recommends coffee be brewed at “between 195-205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction” and drunk “immediately”. If not drunk immediately, it should be “maintained at 180-185 degrees Fahrenheit.”

Coffee and tea are typically made by boiling or evaporated water (can’t get any hotter than that). Are we to invent some new process so it won’t be so hot?

Is there no such thing as personal liability any more? Is everything someone else’s fault? One thing brought up on that lawsuit was that there wasn’t a “proper warning label” that… DUH… coffee is hot.

I completely side with Mickey D’s on this one and I too would have shrugged off any complaints that “the hot drink I ordered is hot”. whut the fack?

[nostradamus]

Whoa I find this absurd. Are you guys litigators?

Stella, for whom the famous Stella Awards for ridiculous lawsuits are named, ordered a hot drink and burned herself with it. Whether 1, 100, or 1000 idiots before her complained of the same thing, it only proves there are a lot of idiots out there.

More about Stella:

http://www.stellaawards.com/stella.html

The coffee in question was 180 degrees. The National Coffee Association recommends coffee be brewed at “between 195-205 degrees Fahrenheit for optimal extraction” and drunk “immediately”. If not drunk immediately, it should be “maintained at 180-185 degrees Fahrenheit.”

Coffee and tea are typically made by boiling or evaporated water (can’t get any hotter than that). Are we to invent some new process so it won’t be so hot?

Is there no such thing as personal liability any more? Is everything someone else’s fault? One thing brought up on that lawsuit was that there wasn’t a “proper warning label” that… DUH… coffee is hot.

I completely side with Mickey D’s on this one and I too would have shrugged off any complaints that “the hot drink I ordered is hot”. whut the fack?

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