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September 17, 2006 at 6:53 PM #35613September 17, 2006 at 7:07 PM #35617BugsParticipant
Supposedly this guy’s threats and violence were what the reporter and guy being intereviewed were talking about when the wife started her assault. Then when the reporter had the nerve to ask her about it is when the husband came rolling up and made things worse.
True to form, both the husband and wife pled “Not Guilty” at their arraignment. Whereas a reasonable and rational adult would at least feign contrition and take responsibility for thier misconduct, these two are hoping to win on a technicality. I’m sure the attorneys are looking for a way to throw out the videotape.
I hope the courts find them guilty and then throw the book at them.
September 17, 2006 at 7:42 PM #35620FutureSDguyParticipantNSR, if you reread what I said, you will see that I did not say that the reporter instigated the violence, but rather I said could have prevented it by departing the scene after the woman was already assaulting him. Now if the woman acted within civil boundaries, then yes the reporter should be able to conduct his investigation. But he was no longer doing that: he was indulging in a media coverage of violence. In your shallow view, it looks as if you think only one side must be wrong (be it a rapist, an assailant, or a thief), and the other side must be right. Both sides wronged on different things. The husband/wife should be punished for their crimes according to the law, but the press should be called on their glorification of that violent scene. In a sense, everyone was acting like animals.
September 17, 2006 at 8:36 PM #35623rseiserParticipantI see all your views, and sure, the reporter was persistent and the camera-man tried to get sensationalism on tape. But sometimes that is necessary since our police system isn’t perfect either. My friend’s car was broken in, and he found out within hours who the thief was, who had stolen his lap-top and camera. He didn’t dare to confront the thief, but called the police. It took the police five(!) weeks to finally go to the thief’s house and take the lap-top away from him (not the camera). The thief got only a warning for possession of stolen goods.
September 17, 2006 at 11:10 PM #35633PeaceParticipantHey, FutureSDguy, stay where you are, don’t move to San Diego.
Yes, when there is “a rapist, an assailant, or a thief” – there is one side that is wrong.September 17, 2006 at 11:22 PM #35634SD RealtorParticipantIf you look at the resume of the investigative reporter he has broken several fraud cases. I don’t believe the guy is sensationalistic at all. He is no different then many investigative reporters, he has to get to people who DON’T WANT TO BE FOUND. He recently helped uncover a car sales fraud of a car sales office that would take trade ins and not pay off the originating loan. Prior to that, he also uncovered a health care scam. If you look at the tape Sulieman came up to the guy and attacked him. It is hard for me to believe some people actually think the reporter “indulged in the media coverage of violence”. How do you know that? Were you there?
I have been watching the Sulieman investigation from the first report and there have been many reports on it. None of them had been violent or confrontational, yet the media reported all of the stories in the investigation, in full entirety. The same is true for ALL of the investigative journalism that this guy does. Go all the way back to guys like David Horowitz, investigative journalism is quite helpful.
Both sides were not wrong.
September 18, 2006 at 7:01 AM #35655FutureSDguyParticipantI find it interesting that instead of placing the responsibility onto the police department to fight crime, people think that journalists should be helping out. What’s next, the 7th grade civics teacher? This is vigilantism folks.
September 18, 2006 at 8:21 AM #35663PerryChaseParticipantI’m with you FutureSDguy. I’d hate to see a return to the kind of vigilantism that leads to public lynching. Unfortunately, the local news is full of this type of sensational stories.
We’re so used to watching them that we’ve become desensitized. The news outlets have to put on ever more outlandish shows to hold the ratings.
Let the authorities do their job and let Sulieman have his day in court.
September 18, 2006 at 10:15 AM #35679AnonymousGuestWhy is it that these Immigrants are the Ones that think they can bring the bullshit from their country to Ours? they should put that son of a bitch on a fast ship back to where he came from. Of Course after he does some serious time in our Penal colonys being someones girlfriend.
September 18, 2006 at 12:35 PM #35693DoofratParticipantFuture SD, did you hear in the tape where they said “call the police”? That was the point where they decided it was time for the police to do their work. Also, did you notice the timeframe of the attack, it went from the reporter interviewing a victim down the street from the Sulieman’s to the reported being attcked by the wife to the husband attacking the reporter in a matter of about 30 seconds.
The reporter wasn’t glorifying violence, he was getting his ass kicked!Future, I don’t know why, but I’ve got this image of you going around your neighborhood tearing down the Neighborhood Watch signs yelling “Let the police do their job, no vigilantism!”
September 18, 2006 at 12:49 PM #35698lendingbubblecontinuesParticipantdoofrat-
you nailed it!
this reporter had f*ckin’ teeth tearing into his flesh thirty seconds after the interview began…how was he supposed to leave without leaving his face behind?!?!?
September 18, 2006 at 1:57 PM #35703FutureSDguyParticipantWhen a reporter doesn’t back off after being assaulted verbally and with a water bottle and continues to hound her after she walks away, he’s was definitely sensationalizing (which is what i meant by glorifying) violence. The “call the police” wasn’t a “decision” as much as a surprised reaction as reporter found himself in over his head. The cameraman could have come to the reporter’s defense, but felt it was more important to record the violence.
Don’t worry, I won’t take down any Neighborhood watch signs… 🙂 but kids, if you see robber, dial 911 and leave the video camera in the closet.
September 18, 2006 at 5:08 PM #35739no_such_realityParticipantOkay, FSD, I’ll give you that he could have left. So I apologize for my cheap shot yesterday. I had a particularly bad afternoon yesterday after getting stuck behind a pair of clowns driving 50 side-by-side down the 101 from Santa Maria until almost Ventura.
However, I really do have the simplistic view that he who throws the first punch is usually wrong. I also have the simple view that when people are angry that people ask questions about what they are doing on public dealings, it’s typically because they aren’t 100% on the up and up on their dealings.
September 18, 2006 at 5:16 PM #35740FutureSDguyParticipantThanks, reality. I just wanted to speak my mind about what I see as a darker side of society. I’d hate the Suelimans just as much as the next guy but I see another wrong that I wanted to share.
I wish people in Seattle were better at knowing that the left-most lane is for passing only (barring high congestion). I still have to be “traffic cop” at four way stops because people don’t understand who has the right of way,
September 18, 2006 at 10:58 PM #35795CardiffBaseballParticipantI just wonder when Sulieman gets to “Oz” to whom he will have to service first? The Aryan’s obviously won’t protect him, the Italians want nothing to do with him, so there are some possibilities.
With his wife being hispanic perhaps he can join a latin brotherhood, for protection. Maybe the muslims take him in.
I think he’ll get the white collar treatment and won’t have to go to one of these nasty prisons.
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