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May 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM #391851May 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM #391210
danthedart
Participant[quote=davelj]
“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]
From wiki:
Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.
Examples:
* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”
* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”
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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.May 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM #391473danthedart
Participant[quote=davelj]
“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]
From wiki:
Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.
Examples:
* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”
* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”
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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.May 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM #391682danthedart
Participant[quote=davelj]
“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]
From wiki:
Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.
Examples:
* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”
* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”
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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.May 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM #391735danthedart
Participant[quote=davelj]
“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]
From wiki:
Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.
Examples:
* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”
* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”
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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.May 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM #391876danthedart
Participant[quote=davelj]
“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]
From wiki:
Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.
Examples:
* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”
* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”
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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.May 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM #391220davelj
Participant[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.
May 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM #391483davelj
Participant[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.
May 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM #391692davelj
Participant[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.
May 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM #391745davelj
Participant[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.
May 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM #391886davelj
Participant[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.
May 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM #391225danthedart
ParticipantNo, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.
May 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM #391488danthedart
ParticipantNo, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.
May 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM #391697danthedart
ParticipantNo, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.
May 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM #391750danthedart
ParticipantNo, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.
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