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[davelj]

[quote=danthedart][quote=davelj]

Ethics can absolutely be discussed here. Which is exactly what we’ve been doing. And within the context of discussing ethics I have noted that I think you’re a hypocrite and explained my rationale for such belief quite clearly. I’m hopeful that we possess the mental agility to discuss two related issues at once. Perhaps I’m wrong.
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We can talk about two issues at once, but like I’ve said before, these two “issues” are absolutely unrelated.

Whether or not a chain smoker is a hypocrite has nothing to do with whether or not smoking is healthy. [/quote]

“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.

[danthedart]

[quote=davelj]

“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]

From wiki:

Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.

Examples:

* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”

* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”

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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.

[danthedart]

[quote=davelj]

“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]

From wiki:

Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.

Examples:

* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”

* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”

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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.

[danthedart]

[quote=davelj]

“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]

From wiki:

Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.

Examples:

* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”

* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”

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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.

[danthedart]

[quote=davelj]

“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]

From wiki:

Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.

Examples:

* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”

* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”

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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.

[danthedart]

[quote=davelj]

“Absolutely unrelated”? Are you sure? The chain smoker is (obviously) a smoker. Discussion of smoking as unhealthy is (obviously) about smoking. In each case, smoking is present. Is it possible that someone’s chain smoking affects their views on whether or not smoking is healthy? I think it’s reasonably likely. Consequently, a side bar discussion as to whether or not the chain smoker is a hypocrite, within the context of discussing the degree to which smoking may or may not be unhealthy, doesn’t seem too far fetched.[/quote]

From wiki:

Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: “You too!”) refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way.

Examples:

* “You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well.”

* “He says we shouldn’t enslave people, yet he himself owns slaves”

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But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]

Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]

Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]

Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]

Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]
But anyway, if you want to argue about how hypocritical I am, what should I do? Present testimony from people who know me and my ethics? Give documented evidence of my past ethical choices? This would basically be a ridiculous discussion. [/quote]

Nope. You should just accept it and not give a shit what I think about you. That’s how I would handle it. But you seem intent on defending your holier-than-thou status (why, I have no idea) to an anonymous internet poster and here we are.

[danthedart]

No, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.

[danthedart]

No, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.

[danthedart]

No, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.

[danthedart]

No, I don’t care what you think. But you’re intent on discussing two issues at the same time. I want to move on and discuss the original issue.

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