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[danthedart]

davelj:

Wait, so it wasn’t a rhetorical question?

Obviously the buyer is getting a great deal and a typical buyer is going to do whatever they’re going to do to get it.

I was unaware that you were directing that question at me specifically because you stated explicitly that it was a rhetorical question. I answered for a typical buyer. And I completely understand where a typical buyer is coming from, trying to get the best deal no matter what.

If you’re directing that question at me, as a buyer I would not participate in an ethically questionable deal. Yes I would be tempted to, and you can never say for sure until you’re actually in that situation and faced with the money you’d be saving. But I would definitely be very disappointed in myself if I took advantage of the seller like that.

So I ask you directly, would YOU do that type of deal as a buyer?

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]davelj:

Wait, so it wasn’t a rhetorical question?

Obviously the buyer is getting a great deal and a typical buyer is going to do whatever they’re going to do to get it.

I was unaware that you were directing that question at me specifically because you stated explicitly that it was a rhetorical question. I answered for a typical buyer. And I completely understand where a typical buyer is coming from, trying to get the best deal no matter what.

If you’re directing that question at me, as a buyer I would not participate in an ethically questionable deal. Yes I would be tempted to, and you can never say for sure until you’re actually in that situation and faced with the money you’d be saving. But I would definitely be very disappointed in myself if I took advantage of the seller like that.

So I ask you directly, would YOU do that type of deal as a buyer?

[/quote]

Yes, I would do the deal. (There’s nothing illegal going on and the seller is getting the list price they approved of in the first place.) And in all likelihood you would too… despite being “very disappointed” in yourself. (The Pope called. He wants his good intentions back.) The difference between us is that I’m being honest about it. (So, yes, my question was rhetorical after all.)

The problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by. I don’t have high ideals – nor do I claim to – so I don’t have any issues in this respect.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]davelj:

Wait, so it wasn’t a rhetorical question?

Obviously the buyer is getting a great deal and a typical buyer is going to do whatever they’re going to do to get it.

I was unaware that you were directing that question at me specifically because you stated explicitly that it was a rhetorical question. I answered for a typical buyer. And I completely understand where a typical buyer is coming from, trying to get the best deal no matter what.

If you’re directing that question at me, as a buyer I would not participate in an ethically questionable deal. Yes I would be tempted to, and you can never say for sure until you’re actually in that situation and faced with the money you’d be saving. But I would definitely be very disappointed in myself if I took advantage of the seller like that.

So I ask you directly, would YOU do that type of deal as a buyer?

[/quote]

Yes, I would do the deal. (There’s nothing illegal going on and the seller is getting the list price they approved of in the first place.) And in all likelihood you would too… despite being “very disappointed” in yourself. (The Pope called. He wants his good intentions back.) The difference between us is that I’m being honest about it. (So, yes, my question was rhetorical after all.)

The problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by. I don’t have high ideals – nor do I claim to – so I don’t have any issues in this respect.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]davelj:

Wait, so it wasn’t a rhetorical question?

Obviously the buyer is getting a great deal and a typical buyer is going to do whatever they’re going to do to get it.

I was unaware that you were directing that question at me specifically because you stated explicitly that it was a rhetorical question. I answered for a typical buyer. And I completely understand where a typical buyer is coming from, trying to get the best deal no matter what.

If you’re directing that question at me, as a buyer I would not participate in an ethically questionable deal. Yes I would be tempted to, and you can never say for sure until you’re actually in that situation and faced with the money you’d be saving. But I would definitely be very disappointed in myself if I took advantage of the seller like that.

So I ask you directly, would YOU do that type of deal as a buyer?

[/quote]

Yes, I would do the deal. (There’s nothing illegal going on and the seller is getting the list price they approved of in the first place.) And in all likelihood you would too… despite being “very disappointed” in yourself. (The Pope called. He wants his good intentions back.) The difference between us is that I’m being honest about it. (So, yes, my question was rhetorical after all.)

The problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by. I don’t have high ideals – nor do I claim to – so I don’t have any issues in this respect.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]davelj:

Wait, so it wasn’t a rhetorical question?

Obviously the buyer is getting a great deal and a typical buyer is going to do whatever they’re going to do to get it.

I was unaware that you were directing that question at me specifically because you stated explicitly that it was a rhetorical question. I answered for a typical buyer. And I completely understand where a typical buyer is coming from, trying to get the best deal no matter what.

If you’re directing that question at me, as a buyer I would not participate in an ethically questionable deal. Yes I would be tempted to, and you can never say for sure until you’re actually in that situation and faced with the money you’d be saving. But I would definitely be very disappointed in myself if I took advantage of the seller like that.

So I ask you directly, would YOU do that type of deal as a buyer?

[/quote]

Yes, I would do the deal. (There’s nothing illegal going on and the seller is getting the list price they approved of in the first place.) And in all likelihood you would too… despite being “very disappointed” in yourself. (The Pope called. He wants his good intentions back.) The difference between us is that I’m being honest about it. (So, yes, my question was rhetorical after all.)

The problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by. I don’t have high ideals – nor do I claim to – so I don’t have any issues in this respect.

[davelj]

[quote=danthedart]davelj:

Wait, so it wasn’t a rhetorical question?

Obviously the buyer is getting a great deal and a typical buyer is going to do whatever they’re going to do to get it.

I was unaware that you were directing that question at me specifically because you stated explicitly that it was a rhetorical question. I answered for a typical buyer. And I completely understand where a typical buyer is coming from, trying to get the best deal no matter what.

If you’re directing that question at me, as a buyer I would not participate in an ethically questionable deal. Yes I would be tempted to, and you can never say for sure until you’re actually in that situation and faced with the money you’d be saving. But I would definitely be very disappointed in myself if I took advantage of the seller like that.

So I ask you directly, would YOU do that type of deal as a buyer?

[/quote]

Yes, I would do the deal. (There’s nothing illegal going on and the seller is getting the list price they approved of in the first place.) And in all likelihood you would too… despite being “very disappointed” in yourself. (The Pope called. He wants his good intentions back.) The difference between us is that I’m being honest about it. (So, yes, my question was rhetorical after all.)

The problem with high ideals is that they are seldom easy to live by. I don’t have high ideals – nor do I claim to – so I don’t have any issues in this respect.

[danthedart]

Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics.

[danthedart]

Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics.

[danthedart]

Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics.

[danthedart]

Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics.

[danthedart]

Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics.

[an]

[quote=danthedart]Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics. [/quote]
I don’t see how the agent selling a house at listing price (the price the seller agreed to) is unethical? Lets take this scenario and place it in 2004 time frame instead. Would it be unethical for the seller agent to sell the house at asking price knowing full well they probably get a lot more offers at probably higher price if they just wait it out a few months? Is it then also unethical for the seller to agreeing to a price that’s considered a good deal to the retail market?

[an]

[quote=danthedart]Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics. [/quote]
I don’t see how the agent selling a house at listing price (the price the seller agreed to) is unethical? Lets take this scenario and place it in 2004 time frame instead. Would it be unethical for the seller agent to sell the house at asking price knowing full well they probably get a lot more offers at probably higher price if they just wait it out a few months? Is it then also unethical for the seller to agreeing to a price that’s considered a good deal to the retail market?

[an]

[quote=danthedart]Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics. [/quote]
I don’t see how the agent selling a house at listing price (the price the seller agreed to) is unethical? Lets take this scenario and place it in 2004 time frame instead. Would it be unethical for the seller agent to sell the house at asking price knowing full well they probably get a lot more offers at probably higher price if they just wait it out a few months? Is it then also unethical for the seller to agreeing to a price that’s considered a good deal to the retail market?

[an]

[quote=danthedart]Well thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, being honest about being dishonest doesn’t really get you anywhere ethically.

In all likelihood I would NOT do the deal.

It may not be illegal for the buyer, but for the agent its a violation of of their agreement with the seller and most likely fraud. Obviously you’d never be able to prove that in court, but that’s what it is.

I am sympathetic to a buyer because I would be tempted to do the deal too, but I am not sympathetic to the agent at all. Agents facilitating these deals are ripping off the people they’re supposedly representing.

No, the difference between you and I is that you would dive into the deal thinking you’re doing nothing wrong. If I did the deal, which I honestly do not believe I would, I would be doing the deal knowing I was doing something unethical.

Isn’t that the real question here? Is this deal ethical or not? It’s not about my personal ethics or your personal ethics. [/quote]
I don’t see how the agent selling a house at listing price (the price the seller agreed to) is unethical? Lets take this scenario and place it in 2004 time frame instead. Would it be unethical for the seller agent to sell the house at asking price knowing full well they probably get a lot more offers at probably higher price if they just wait it out a few months? Is it then also unethical for the seller to agreeing to a price that’s considered a good deal to the retail market?

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