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November 12, 2010 at 1:23 PM #631257November 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM #630165CoronitaParticipant
[quote=walterwhite]Something has to be done about the income tax space. Recall it’s 10 percent or max 200. So there’s my damned wealthy middle kid with thousands of dollars and hotels and stuff, and he’s paying probably a 6 percent tax rate, and there I am with a few hundred bucks paying 10 percent.[/quote]
Simple…We also need to include element of presidential policy. So if you land on income tax OR if you land on luxury tax, the new rules should be
1) Roll a single dice.
a) If the number turns out to be even, the Republicans are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 35% taxes (no cap)
*middle class (union or non union) people pay 10% or $200 max
*poor get nothingb) If the number turns out to be odd, the Democrats are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 50% taxes (no cap)
*non unionized middle class people, pay 5% or $100 max
*unionized middle class pay 1% or $50 max
*poor people get a $500 subsidyIn either case, if you’re upper middle class, you’re fvcked either way…just like in the real world…
I think we also need to include an element of outsourcing and walmart.
So if you land on Walmart, you are forced to send 5% of your income to an entity called “China”
… And if you pick up an “you’ve been outsourced” chance card, you can only collect your 40% of your go money in the next 5 passes of “go”…..On the 6th pass, you don’t get to collect any go money until you get a chance card that says either
(a) “you’ve successfully been hired again”, which you get your full ‘go’ money back
OR
(b) “congress has extended your unemployment benefits”, in which you can collect 40% of your go money from any other player still collecting “go” money and paying into the system.
November 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM #630242CoronitaParticipant[quote=walterwhite]Something has to be done about the income tax space. Recall it’s 10 percent or max 200. So there’s my damned wealthy middle kid with thousands of dollars and hotels and stuff, and he’s paying probably a 6 percent tax rate, and there I am with a few hundred bucks paying 10 percent.[/quote]
Simple…We also need to include element of presidential policy. So if you land on income tax OR if you land on luxury tax, the new rules should be
1) Roll a single dice.
a) If the number turns out to be even, the Republicans are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 35% taxes (no cap)
*middle class (union or non union) people pay 10% or $200 max
*poor get nothingb) If the number turns out to be odd, the Democrats are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 50% taxes (no cap)
*non unionized middle class people, pay 5% or $100 max
*unionized middle class pay 1% or $50 max
*poor people get a $500 subsidyIn either case, if you’re upper middle class, you’re fvcked either way…just like in the real world…
I think we also need to include an element of outsourcing and walmart.
So if you land on Walmart, you are forced to send 5% of your income to an entity called “China”
… And if you pick up an “you’ve been outsourced” chance card, you can only collect your 40% of your go money in the next 5 passes of “go”…..On the 6th pass, you don’t get to collect any go money until you get a chance card that says either
(a) “you’ve successfully been hired again”, which you get your full ‘go’ money back
OR
(b) “congress has extended your unemployment benefits”, in which you can collect 40% of your go money from any other player still collecting “go” money and paying into the system.
November 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM #630817CoronitaParticipant[quote=walterwhite]Something has to be done about the income tax space. Recall it’s 10 percent or max 200. So there’s my damned wealthy middle kid with thousands of dollars and hotels and stuff, and he’s paying probably a 6 percent tax rate, and there I am with a few hundred bucks paying 10 percent.[/quote]
Simple…We also need to include element of presidential policy. So if you land on income tax OR if you land on luxury tax, the new rules should be
1) Roll a single dice.
a) If the number turns out to be even, the Republicans are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 35% taxes (no cap)
*middle class (union or non union) people pay 10% or $200 max
*poor get nothingb) If the number turns out to be odd, the Democrats are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 50% taxes (no cap)
*non unionized middle class people, pay 5% or $100 max
*unionized middle class pay 1% or $50 max
*poor people get a $500 subsidyIn either case, if you’re upper middle class, you’re fvcked either way…just like in the real world…
I think we also need to include an element of outsourcing and walmart.
So if you land on Walmart, you are forced to send 5% of your income to an entity called “China”
… And if you pick up an “you’ve been outsourced” chance card, you can only collect your 40% of your go money in the next 5 passes of “go”…..On the 6th pass, you don’t get to collect any go money until you get a chance card that says either
(a) “you’ve successfully been hired again”, which you get your full ‘go’ money back
OR
(b) “congress has extended your unemployment benefits”, in which you can collect 40% of your go money from any other player still collecting “go” money and paying into the system.
November 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM #630944CoronitaParticipant[quote=walterwhite]Something has to be done about the income tax space. Recall it’s 10 percent or max 200. So there’s my damned wealthy middle kid with thousands of dollars and hotels and stuff, and he’s paying probably a 6 percent tax rate, and there I am with a few hundred bucks paying 10 percent.[/quote]
Simple…We also need to include element of presidential policy. So if you land on income tax OR if you land on luxury tax, the new rules should be
1) Roll a single dice.
a) If the number turns out to be even, the Republicans are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 35% taxes (no cap)
*middle class (union or non union) people pay 10% or $200 max
*poor get nothingb) If the number turns out to be odd, the Democrats are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 50% taxes (no cap)
*non unionized middle class people, pay 5% or $100 max
*unionized middle class pay 1% or $50 max
*poor people get a $500 subsidyIn either case, if you’re upper middle class, you’re fvcked either way…just like in the real world…
I think we also need to include an element of outsourcing and walmart.
So if you land on Walmart, you are forced to send 5% of your income to an entity called “China”
… And if you pick up an “you’ve been outsourced” chance card, you can only collect your 40% of your go money in the next 5 passes of “go”…..On the 6th pass, you don’t get to collect any go money until you get a chance card that says either
(a) “you’ve successfully been hired again”, which you get your full ‘go’ money back
OR
(b) “congress has extended your unemployment benefits”, in which you can collect 40% of your go money from any other player still collecting “go” money and paying into the system.
November 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM #631262CoronitaParticipant[quote=walterwhite]Something has to be done about the income tax space. Recall it’s 10 percent or max 200. So there’s my damned wealthy middle kid with thousands of dollars and hotels and stuff, and he’s paying probably a 6 percent tax rate, and there I am with a few hundred bucks paying 10 percent.[/quote]
Simple…We also need to include element of presidential policy. So if you land on income tax OR if you land on luxury tax, the new rules should be
1) Roll a single dice.
a) If the number turns out to be even, the Republicans are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 35% taxes (no cap)
*middle class (union or non union) people pay 10% or $200 max
*poor get nothingb) If the number turns out to be odd, the Democrats are in charge, so this means
*the “wealthy” pay no income taxes, no luxury taxes
*upper middle class pays 50% taxes (no cap)
*non unionized middle class people, pay 5% or $100 max
*unionized middle class pay 1% or $50 max
*poor people get a $500 subsidyIn either case, if you’re upper middle class, you’re fvcked either way…just like in the real world…
I think we also need to include an element of outsourcing and walmart.
So if you land on Walmart, you are forced to send 5% of your income to an entity called “China”
… And if you pick up an “you’ve been outsourced” chance card, you can only collect your 40% of your go money in the next 5 passes of “go”…..On the 6th pass, you don’t get to collect any go money until you get a chance card that says either
(a) “you’ve successfully been hired again”, which you get your full ‘go’ money back
OR
(b) “congress has extended your unemployment benefits”, in which you can collect 40% of your go money from any other player still collecting “go” money and paying into the system.
November 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM #630170CoronitaParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=flu]Forgot.
11) Two new properties should be included in the new version.
“Sky Ranch”: It should be positioned right between to Boardwalk and Park Place, aka “Boardwalk adjunct” and never depreciate.
“Pell Place”: It should be positioned next to Free Parking, presumably next to a TBD build luxury theater.[/quote]
Stop that FLU! I just spit my diet coke on screen. Any suggestions as to how one cleans it off.[/quote]
windex. And we got to add an Expressway between Boardwalk and Sky Ranch…You know, to guarantee people to go to and from both places in 10 minutes…
November 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM #630247CoronitaParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=flu]Forgot.
11) Two new properties should be included in the new version.
“Sky Ranch”: It should be positioned right between to Boardwalk and Park Place, aka “Boardwalk adjunct” and never depreciate.
“Pell Place”: It should be positioned next to Free Parking, presumably next to a TBD build luxury theater.[/quote]
Stop that FLU! I just spit my diet coke on screen. Any suggestions as to how one cleans it off.[/quote]
windex. And we got to add an Expressway between Boardwalk and Sky Ranch…You know, to guarantee people to go to and from both places in 10 minutes…
November 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM #630822CoronitaParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=flu]Forgot.
11) Two new properties should be included in the new version.
“Sky Ranch”: It should be positioned right between to Boardwalk and Park Place, aka “Boardwalk adjunct” and never depreciate.
“Pell Place”: It should be positioned next to Free Parking, presumably next to a TBD build luxury theater.[/quote]
Stop that FLU! I just spit my diet coke on screen. Any suggestions as to how one cleans it off.[/quote]
windex. And we got to add an Expressway between Boardwalk and Sky Ranch…You know, to guarantee people to go to and from both places in 10 minutes…
November 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM #630949CoronitaParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=flu]Forgot.
11) Two new properties should be included in the new version.
“Sky Ranch”: It should be positioned right between to Boardwalk and Park Place, aka “Boardwalk adjunct” and never depreciate.
“Pell Place”: It should be positioned next to Free Parking, presumably next to a TBD build luxury theater.[/quote]
Stop that FLU! I just spit my diet coke on screen. Any suggestions as to how one cleans it off.[/quote]
windex. And we got to add an Expressway between Boardwalk and Sky Ranch…You know, to guarantee people to go to and from both places in 10 minutes…
November 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM #631267CoronitaParticipant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=flu]Forgot.
11) Two new properties should be included in the new version.
“Sky Ranch”: It should be positioned right between to Boardwalk and Park Place, aka “Boardwalk adjunct” and never depreciate.
“Pell Place”: It should be positioned next to Free Parking, presumably next to a TBD build luxury theater.[/quote]
Stop that FLU! I just spit my diet coke on screen. Any suggestions as to how one cleans it off.[/quote]
windex. And we got to add an Expressway between Boardwalk and Sky Ranch…You know, to guarantee people to go to and from both places in 10 minutes…
November 12, 2010 at 1:37 PM #630175CoronitaParticipant[quote=Ricechex][quote=flu]Well, i think the “new and improved” monopoly needs to have a few more elements.
1)Missing is the Federal Reserve Chairman, who’s role is to continuously print money and offer easy / low interest financing
2)The bank shouldn’t just sell property. It needs to convert these into CDO’s. There needs to be other entities that represent AIG/Lehman,etc that buys these things
3)”Chance” should include cards that appropriately sets random adjustments in the stock market, and either adds to or detracts from player’s 401k and stock portfolio.
4) “Chance” should also include elements of rising and falling interest rates on fixed rate mortgages, and whether or not you qualify for loan.
5) Community chest should include random acceptance or denial of loan workout modification.
6)We need a mechanism to perform a short sale.
7)The get out of jail free card should only apply to folks that work at Goldman Sachs and AIG.
8)While the traditional monopoly has different player pieces (one including a car), the new monopoly should feature GM, chrysler vehicles that can be purchased with the cash for clunker program. We should also add a few refrigerators and washer/dryers that can be made available via the cash for appliance program.
9)People that are firemen/policemen/city/county/state/federal employees should automatically get a $100 bonus each turn. And “chance” should correlate to voters accepting and rejecting propositions to increase of decrease the per turn cash bonus approximately 10% each card.
10)The old rule of monopoly we use to play was the taxes paid would end up in the money pot which someone would get if he/she lands in free parking. The new version, every private sector employee should contribute $10 to the money pot per turn, and generally are ineligible to receive the pot money if he/she lands in free parking if his/her AGI is $200k single/ or $250k married ($125k each if married but filing separate).
11)Each player should contribute $5 each turn for a federally mandated health plan.
12) We need a “chance” card for an oil spill that wipes out Baltic Avenue, and causes the owner(s) to lose rental income for 10 turns.[/quote]
Flu–this is hilarious!! What about the owners of Baltic Ave and Mediterranean Place, get to make all other players pay rent, regardless of landing on the spot, to support Section 8 tenants?[/quote]
I’m not familiar with Section 8…. Sorry, can’t comment there. Perhaps, we should just replace Mediterranean with a place called “Detroit”… If you land there, well you can just squat…Heck, the owner must pay you take take the land off their hand….
How could I forget…We need to model squatters……Hmmm let me think about this one….
Walter? Why you were playing, what squatting strategy did you use?
That’s it, I’m going to quit my day job and create this new version of monopoly….
November 12, 2010 at 1:37 PM #630252CoronitaParticipant[quote=Ricechex][quote=flu]Well, i think the “new and improved” monopoly needs to have a few more elements.
1)Missing is the Federal Reserve Chairman, who’s role is to continuously print money and offer easy / low interest financing
2)The bank shouldn’t just sell property. It needs to convert these into CDO’s. There needs to be other entities that represent AIG/Lehman,etc that buys these things
3)”Chance” should include cards that appropriately sets random adjustments in the stock market, and either adds to or detracts from player’s 401k and stock portfolio.
4) “Chance” should also include elements of rising and falling interest rates on fixed rate mortgages, and whether or not you qualify for loan.
5) Community chest should include random acceptance or denial of loan workout modification.
6)We need a mechanism to perform a short sale.
7)The get out of jail free card should only apply to folks that work at Goldman Sachs and AIG.
8)While the traditional monopoly has different player pieces (one including a car), the new monopoly should feature GM, chrysler vehicles that can be purchased with the cash for clunker program. We should also add a few refrigerators and washer/dryers that can be made available via the cash for appliance program.
9)People that are firemen/policemen/city/county/state/federal employees should automatically get a $100 bonus each turn. And “chance” should correlate to voters accepting and rejecting propositions to increase of decrease the per turn cash bonus approximately 10% each card.
10)The old rule of monopoly we use to play was the taxes paid would end up in the money pot which someone would get if he/she lands in free parking. The new version, every private sector employee should contribute $10 to the money pot per turn, and generally are ineligible to receive the pot money if he/she lands in free parking if his/her AGI is $200k single/ or $250k married ($125k each if married but filing separate).
11)Each player should contribute $5 each turn for a federally mandated health plan.
12) We need a “chance” card for an oil spill that wipes out Baltic Avenue, and causes the owner(s) to lose rental income for 10 turns.[/quote]
Flu–this is hilarious!! What about the owners of Baltic Ave and Mediterranean Place, get to make all other players pay rent, regardless of landing on the spot, to support Section 8 tenants?[/quote]
I’m not familiar with Section 8…. Sorry, can’t comment there. Perhaps, we should just replace Mediterranean with a place called “Detroit”… If you land there, well you can just squat…Heck, the owner must pay you take take the land off their hand….
How could I forget…We need to model squatters……Hmmm let me think about this one….
Walter? Why you were playing, what squatting strategy did you use?
That’s it, I’m going to quit my day job and create this new version of monopoly….
November 12, 2010 at 1:37 PM #630827CoronitaParticipant[quote=Ricechex][quote=flu]Well, i think the “new and improved” monopoly needs to have a few more elements.
1)Missing is the Federal Reserve Chairman, who’s role is to continuously print money and offer easy / low interest financing
2)The bank shouldn’t just sell property. It needs to convert these into CDO’s. There needs to be other entities that represent AIG/Lehman,etc that buys these things
3)”Chance” should include cards that appropriately sets random adjustments in the stock market, and either adds to or detracts from player’s 401k and stock portfolio.
4) “Chance” should also include elements of rising and falling interest rates on fixed rate mortgages, and whether or not you qualify for loan.
5) Community chest should include random acceptance or denial of loan workout modification.
6)We need a mechanism to perform a short sale.
7)The get out of jail free card should only apply to folks that work at Goldman Sachs and AIG.
8)While the traditional monopoly has different player pieces (one including a car), the new monopoly should feature GM, chrysler vehicles that can be purchased with the cash for clunker program. We should also add a few refrigerators and washer/dryers that can be made available via the cash for appliance program.
9)People that are firemen/policemen/city/county/state/federal employees should automatically get a $100 bonus each turn. And “chance” should correlate to voters accepting and rejecting propositions to increase of decrease the per turn cash bonus approximately 10% each card.
10)The old rule of monopoly we use to play was the taxes paid would end up in the money pot which someone would get if he/she lands in free parking. The new version, every private sector employee should contribute $10 to the money pot per turn, and generally are ineligible to receive the pot money if he/she lands in free parking if his/her AGI is $200k single/ or $250k married ($125k each if married but filing separate).
11)Each player should contribute $5 each turn for a federally mandated health plan.
12) We need a “chance” card for an oil spill that wipes out Baltic Avenue, and causes the owner(s) to lose rental income for 10 turns.[/quote]
Flu–this is hilarious!! What about the owners of Baltic Ave and Mediterranean Place, get to make all other players pay rent, regardless of landing on the spot, to support Section 8 tenants?[/quote]
I’m not familiar with Section 8…. Sorry, can’t comment there. Perhaps, we should just replace Mediterranean with a place called “Detroit”… If you land there, well you can just squat…Heck, the owner must pay you take take the land off their hand….
How could I forget…We need to model squatters……Hmmm let me think about this one….
Walter? Why you were playing, what squatting strategy did you use?
That’s it, I’m going to quit my day job and create this new version of monopoly….
November 12, 2010 at 1:37 PM #630954CoronitaParticipant[quote=Ricechex][quote=flu]Well, i think the “new and improved” monopoly needs to have a few more elements.
1)Missing is the Federal Reserve Chairman, who’s role is to continuously print money and offer easy / low interest financing
2)The bank shouldn’t just sell property. It needs to convert these into CDO’s. There needs to be other entities that represent AIG/Lehman,etc that buys these things
3)”Chance” should include cards that appropriately sets random adjustments in the stock market, and either adds to or detracts from player’s 401k and stock portfolio.
4) “Chance” should also include elements of rising and falling interest rates on fixed rate mortgages, and whether or not you qualify for loan.
5) Community chest should include random acceptance or denial of loan workout modification.
6)We need a mechanism to perform a short sale.
7)The get out of jail free card should only apply to folks that work at Goldman Sachs and AIG.
8)While the traditional monopoly has different player pieces (one including a car), the new monopoly should feature GM, chrysler vehicles that can be purchased with the cash for clunker program. We should also add a few refrigerators and washer/dryers that can be made available via the cash for appliance program.
9)People that are firemen/policemen/city/county/state/federal employees should automatically get a $100 bonus each turn. And “chance” should correlate to voters accepting and rejecting propositions to increase of decrease the per turn cash bonus approximately 10% each card.
10)The old rule of monopoly we use to play was the taxes paid would end up in the money pot which someone would get if he/she lands in free parking. The new version, every private sector employee should contribute $10 to the money pot per turn, and generally are ineligible to receive the pot money if he/she lands in free parking if his/her AGI is $200k single/ or $250k married ($125k each if married but filing separate).
11)Each player should contribute $5 each turn for a federally mandated health plan.
12) We need a “chance” card for an oil spill that wipes out Baltic Avenue, and causes the owner(s) to lose rental income for 10 turns.[/quote]
Flu–this is hilarious!! What about the owners of Baltic Ave and Mediterranean Place, get to make all other players pay rent, regardless of landing on the spot, to support Section 8 tenants?[/quote]
I’m not familiar with Section 8…. Sorry, can’t comment there. Perhaps, we should just replace Mediterranean with a place called “Detroit”… If you land there, well you can just squat…Heck, the owner must pay you take take the land off their hand….
How could I forget…We need to model squatters……Hmmm let me think about this one….
Walter? Why you were playing, what squatting strategy did you use?
That’s it, I’m going to quit my day job and create this new version of monopoly….
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