MMoore movie SiCKO

[no_such_reality]

This is an issue that can benefit all Americans so don’t be a tool and buy into the “left wing” “right wing” propaganda.

It’s not a left-right thing. It’s a fictional thing.

That’s what you need to realize about MM, his work is fiction. It may be factual sources, but it woven together out of context with the exception implied as the norm to create a work of propaganda to further his political view.

[no_such_reality]

This is an issue that can benefit all Americans so don’t be a tool and buy into the “left wing” “right wing” propaganda.

It’s not a left-right thing. It’s a fictional thing.

That’s what you need to realize about MM, his work is fiction. It may be factual sources, but it woven together out of context with the exception implied as the norm to create a work of propaganda to further his political view.

[Peace]

I like how so many people jumped right in with the intellectual pap without even seeing the movie – as was the OP’s request.

To those of you who think our current medical system is so great – consider yourselves lucky, but I don’t want my health care to depend on luck.

I can assume you have never been in a position to have to pay COBRA, or HIPPA, or haven’t been paying attention to how much more you are paying for less health care coverage.

Health care / dental care costs have the nature of snowballing as you grow older no matter how well you have taken care of yourself. Those years between 45 and medicare can easily bankrupt you. Wait til you have to apply for private coverage and the insurance company digs back into 10 years of medical records and comes up with some trumped up pre-existing condition so they can deny you when they really are turning you down because they don’t want to take the risk of your age.

Like someone else has brought up, consider yourself lucky if you have not had to spend hours trying to understand your annual new coverage, or spent hours on the phone trying to convince some drone that you didn’t chose to have a colonoscopy for the fun of it.

As for tort – I believe that for every case that makes it to court there are probably at leat 100 cases that should have seen litigation.

I have known many expatriots living in this country that have the best health coverage provided by their homeland companies while they are here. They see the best providers in this country, yet, if you ask them if they would trade their “socialized” medical system back home with our system, you will hear a resounding “NO!”

As to overweight Americans, I’ve been suspecting this for awhile and just saw this today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/01/AR2007070100431.html?hpid=topnews

New Study Links Stress, Obesity – washingtonpost.com

I believe that Americans have no idea how much stress they are living under because it is part of our existence.

[Peace]

I like how so many people jumped right in with the intellectual pap without even seeing the movie – as was the OP’s request.

To those of you who think our current medical system is so great – consider yourselves lucky, but I don’t want my health care to depend on luck.

I can assume you have never been in a position to have to pay COBRA, or HIPPA, or haven’t been paying attention to how much more you are paying for less health care coverage.

Health care / dental care costs have the nature of snowballing as you grow older no matter how well you have taken care of yourself. Those years between 45 and medicare can easily bankrupt you. Wait til you have to apply for private coverage and the insurance company digs back into 10 years of medical records and comes up with some trumped up pre-existing condition so they can deny you when they really are turning you down because they don’t want to take the risk of your age.

Like someone else has brought up, consider yourself lucky if you have not had to spend hours trying to understand your annual new coverage, or spent hours on the phone trying to convince some drone that you didn’t chose to have a colonoscopy for the fun of it.

As for tort – I believe that for every case that makes it to court there are probably at leat 100 cases that should have seen litigation.

I have known many expatriots living in this country that have the best health coverage provided by their homeland companies while they are here. They see the best providers in this country, yet, if you ask them if they would trade their “socialized” medical system back home with our system, you will hear a resounding “NO!”

As to overweight Americans, I’ve been suspecting this for awhile and just saw this today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/01/AR2007070100431.html?hpid=topnews

New Study Links Stress, Obesity – washingtonpost.com

I believe that Americans have no idea how much stress they are living under because it is part of our existence.

[NotCranky]

Excerpt:
“To explore this, Zukowska and her colleagues conducted a series of experiments in which they subjected mice to chronic stress — either standing in cold water an hour a day or being caged with a more aggressive alpha mouse for 10 minutes a day — and then gave them standard feed or a high-fat, high-sugar diet similar to the junk food fare many Americans consume.

After two weeks, only the mice that were both stressed and fed the junk-food diet gained a significant amount of weight,”
There it is, eat well and you won’t get fat wether you are stressed or not. This was a crazy study if you ask me. In another part of it the explained how the researchers might be able to understand how inhibiting certain responses could make the little mice have nicer buttockses and Breasteses as well as nice toned facial features.
Sounds like scientific theory is paving the way for a new miracle drug for irresponsible Americans.Somebody said treat the symptom not the disease?

“I don’t fear and hate fat people like some posters apparently do but what about personal responsibility?I got myself fat or I got myself in reasonable shape(not movie star beautiful)” Other than for serious eating disorders and maybe a few rare medical conditions it is on us. To eat right, get enough rest and aim to thrive not strive.

[NotCranky]

Excerpt:
“To explore this, Zukowska and her colleagues conducted a series of experiments in which they subjected mice to chronic stress — either standing in cold water an hour a day or being caged with a more aggressive alpha mouse for 10 minutes a day — and then gave them standard feed or a high-fat, high-sugar diet similar to the junk food fare many Americans consume.

After two weeks, only the mice that were both stressed and fed the junk-food diet gained a significant amount of weight,”
There it is, eat well and you won’t get fat wether you are stressed or not. This was a crazy study if you ask me. In another part of it the explained how the researchers might be able to understand how inhibiting certain responses could make the little mice have nicer buttockses and Breasteses as well as nice toned facial features.
Sounds like scientific theory is paving the way for a new miracle drug for irresponsible Americans.Somebody said treat the symptom not the disease?

“I don’t fear and hate fat people like some posters apparently do but what about personal responsibility?I got myself fat or I got myself in reasonable shape(not movie star beautiful)” Other than for serious eating disorders and maybe a few rare medical conditions it is on us. To eat right, get enough rest and aim to thrive not strive.

[citydweller]

Interesting article, thanks. The unfortunate thing about this research is that instead of finding a way to help people reduce stress, they will be researching a pill, which as the article mentions could also come with undesirable side effects, and still will not address the actual cause.

[citydweller]

Interesting article, thanks. The unfortunate thing about this research is that instead of finding a way to help people reduce stress, they will be researching a pill, which as the article mentions could also come with undesirable side effects, and still will not address the actual cause.

[lostkitty]

no_such_reality

you wrote:
“That’s what you need to realize about MM, his work is fiction. It may be factual sources, but it woven together out of context with the exception implied as the norm to create a work of propaganda to further his political view.”

So which of his movies have you seen?

[lostkitty]

no_such_reality

you wrote:
“That’s what you need to realize about MM, his work is fiction. It may be factual sources, but it woven together out of context with the exception implied as the norm to create a work of propaganda to further his political view.”

So which of his movies have you seen?

[lostkitty]

It is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie "Supersize me". Nutrition is such a huge part of good health, and so few doctors push this agenda, all they do is prescribe pills to address the symptoms caused by poor nutrition.

 They actually address this topic in the movie.  they are talking to a doct in England who tells how he is given "incentive pay" for…. (drum roll) … getting the most people to quit smoking, exercise, eat better, cholesterol levels down… etc.  He's sporting a wicked awesome Audi ride as a result. 

[lostkitty]

It is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie "Supersize me". Nutrition is such a huge part of good health, and so few doctors push this agenda, all they do is prescribe pills to address the symptoms caused by poor nutrition.

 They actually address this topic in the movie.  they are talking to a doct in England who tells how he is given "incentive pay" for…. (drum roll) … getting the most people to quit smoking, exercise, eat better, cholesterol levels down… etc.  He's sporting a wicked awesome Audi ride as a result. 

[no_such_reality]

“Roger & Me”
“Bowling for Columbine”
and
“Fahrenheit 9/11”

I’ve also seen Gore “An Inconvenient Truth” and dare say, when Crichton wrote “State of Fear” I know which fear machine he’s talking about.

I’ve also seen “Supersize Me” quite good. And “Cadillac Desert” both book and PBS DVD. IMHO, they should be mandatory reading for anyone living in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.

As another pointed out, the bulk of the stuff running on PBS under the brand names “Nova” or “Nature” blow Gore away. Take a look at “Saved by the Sun” from Nova. It’s a look at global solar power options, through individual cases. Or take a look at PBS’ covering of the history of credit cards “Secret History of the Credit Card”.

PBS does better documentation without the conspiracy overtones, IMHO.

[no_such_reality]

“Roger & Me”
“Bowling for Columbine”
and
“Fahrenheit 9/11”

I’ve also seen Gore “An Inconvenient Truth” and dare say, when Crichton wrote “State of Fear” I know which fear machine he’s talking about.

I’ve also seen “Supersize Me” quite good. And “Cadillac Desert” both book and PBS DVD. IMHO, they should be mandatory reading for anyone living in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.

As another pointed out, the bulk of the stuff running on PBS under the brand names “Nova” or “Nature” blow Gore away. Take a look at “Saved by the Sun” from Nova. It’s a look at global solar power options, through individual cases. Or take a look at PBS’ covering of the history of credit cards “Secret History of the Credit Card”.

PBS does better documentation without the conspiracy overtones, IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Sheeple, lose some weight, exercise, and go to church, and many of your maladies will disappear.

Insurance is for catastrophes. That you expect ‘insurance’ to pay for ordinary and expected expenses, such as setting broken bones, is ridiculous.

We have a Health Savings Account (HSA) at work, combined with high deductible insurance. Our company, because it saves on insurance, now, puts $200-400 per month, which fully covers the deductible, into the HSA. What my family does not spend, we get to keep and spend on health issues in the future. Guess what; we rarely go to the doctor. Highly recommended, an HSA.

Grow up, girls. Paying for your medical care is exactly like paying for your food and your shelter, just another expense; why the heck should society pay for any of them?

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