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May 22, 2010 at 1:58 PM #553917May 22, 2010 at 10:32 PM #553002CA renterParticipant
NSD,
That was a very cool report. We’ll have to go there just for the foot massages and sushi! π
So…did you buy a car? π
May 22, 2010 at 10:32 PM #553108CA renterParticipantNSD,
That was a very cool report. We’ll have to go there just for the foot massages and sushi! π
So…did you buy a car? π
May 22, 2010 at 10:32 PM #553596CA renterParticipantNSD,
That was a very cool report. We’ll have to go there just for the foot massages and sushi! π
So…did you buy a car? π
May 22, 2010 at 10:32 PM #553695CA renterParticipantNSD,
That was a very cool report. We’ll have to go there just for the foot massages and sushi! π
So…did you buy a car? π
May 22, 2010 at 10:32 PM #553972CA renterParticipantNSD,
That was a very cool report. We’ll have to go there just for the foot massages and sushi! π
So…did you buy a car? π
May 23, 2010 at 8:24 AM #553027svelteParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]The Corona drove circles around all these other cars and got better gas mileage, to boot. I’ve driven all Toyota products since then.
[/quote]You’re coming in late to all the Toyota based threads, bearish girl. The acceleration problem was just not about floor mats, there were several other defects as well, the most well known being defective gas pedals. I think most of us piggs are talked out on the topic.
And you are right, from the late 70s to somewhere in the 90s most other manufacturers were nowhere near Toyota in quality. But times, they keep a-changing and Toyota no longers has an advantage in quality (read JD Powers et al) and, for the past few years, Toyota has stumbled quite badly. They’ll probably get back on track, but they will no longer hold a quality advantage. Those days are long gone.
It was also interesting to note that not once did you mention fun to drive in your comments about Toyota. They are almost exclusively a pt a to pt b car driven by people who don’t want to think about the driving experience. I for one do consider quality when purchasing, but it is way down the list of what I consider. The differences in quality today are so small as to make it barely worth considering as a differentiator.
If you drove Toyotas because you perceived their quality as being better, well it is time for you to step out of blindly buying a Toyota because it is Toyota and giving a fair, unbiased looked at other brands.
May 23, 2010 at 8:24 AM #553133svelteParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]The Corona drove circles around all these other cars and got better gas mileage, to boot. I’ve driven all Toyota products since then.
[/quote]You’re coming in late to all the Toyota based threads, bearish girl. The acceleration problem was just not about floor mats, there were several other defects as well, the most well known being defective gas pedals. I think most of us piggs are talked out on the topic.
And you are right, from the late 70s to somewhere in the 90s most other manufacturers were nowhere near Toyota in quality. But times, they keep a-changing and Toyota no longers has an advantage in quality (read JD Powers et al) and, for the past few years, Toyota has stumbled quite badly. They’ll probably get back on track, but they will no longer hold a quality advantage. Those days are long gone.
It was also interesting to note that not once did you mention fun to drive in your comments about Toyota. They are almost exclusively a pt a to pt b car driven by people who don’t want to think about the driving experience. I for one do consider quality when purchasing, but it is way down the list of what I consider. The differences in quality today are so small as to make it barely worth considering as a differentiator.
If you drove Toyotas because you perceived their quality as being better, well it is time for you to step out of blindly buying a Toyota because it is Toyota and giving a fair, unbiased looked at other brands.
May 23, 2010 at 8:24 AM #553621svelteParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]The Corona drove circles around all these other cars and got better gas mileage, to boot. I’ve driven all Toyota products since then.
[/quote]You’re coming in late to all the Toyota based threads, bearish girl. The acceleration problem was just not about floor mats, there were several other defects as well, the most well known being defective gas pedals. I think most of us piggs are talked out on the topic.
And you are right, from the late 70s to somewhere in the 90s most other manufacturers were nowhere near Toyota in quality. But times, they keep a-changing and Toyota no longers has an advantage in quality (read JD Powers et al) and, for the past few years, Toyota has stumbled quite badly. They’ll probably get back on track, but they will no longer hold a quality advantage. Those days are long gone.
It was also interesting to note that not once did you mention fun to drive in your comments about Toyota. They are almost exclusively a pt a to pt b car driven by people who don’t want to think about the driving experience. I for one do consider quality when purchasing, but it is way down the list of what I consider. The differences in quality today are so small as to make it barely worth considering as a differentiator.
If you drove Toyotas because you perceived their quality as being better, well it is time for you to step out of blindly buying a Toyota because it is Toyota and giving a fair, unbiased looked at other brands.
May 23, 2010 at 8:24 AM #553720svelteParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]The Corona drove circles around all these other cars and got better gas mileage, to boot. I’ve driven all Toyota products since then.
[/quote]You’re coming in late to all the Toyota based threads, bearish girl. The acceleration problem was just not about floor mats, there were several other defects as well, the most well known being defective gas pedals. I think most of us piggs are talked out on the topic.
And you are right, from the late 70s to somewhere in the 90s most other manufacturers were nowhere near Toyota in quality. But times, they keep a-changing and Toyota no longers has an advantage in quality (read JD Powers et al) and, for the past few years, Toyota has stumbled quite badly. They’ll probably get back on track, but they will no longer hold a quality advantage. Those days are long gone.
It was also interesting to note that not once did you mention fun to drive in your comments about Toyota. They are almost exclusively a pt a to pt b car driven by people who don’t want to think about the driving experience. I for one do consider quality when purchasing, but it is way down the list of what I consider. The differences in quality today are so small as to make it barely worth considering as a differentiator.
If you drove Toyotas because you perceived their quality as being better, well it is time for you to step out of blindly buying a Toyota because it is Toyota and giving a fair, unbiased looked at other brands.
May 23, 2010 at 8:24 AM #553996svelteParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]The Corona drove circles around all these other cars and got better gas mileage, to boot. I’ve driven all Toyota products since then.
[/quote]You’re coming in late to all the Toyota based threads, bearish girl. The acceleration problem was just not about floor mats, there were several other defects as well, the most well known being defective gas pedals. I think most of us piggs are talked out on the topic.
And you are right, from the late 70s to somewhere in the 90s most other manufacturers were nowhere near Toyota in quality. But times, they keep a-changing and Toyota no longers has an advantage in quality (read JD Powers et al) and, for the past few years, Toyota has stumbled quite badly. They’ll probably get back on track, but they will no longer hold a quality advantage. Those days are long gone.
It was also interesting to note that not once did you mention fun to drive in your comments about Toyota. They are almost exclusively a pt a to pt b car driven by people who don’t want to think about the driving experience. I for one do consider quality when purchasing, but it is way down the list of what I consider. The differences in quality today are so small as to make it barely worth considering as a differentiator.
If you drove Toyotas because you perceived their quality as being better, well it is time for you to step out of blindly buying a Toyota because it is Toyota and giving a fair, unbiased looked at other brands.
May 23, 2010 at 11:36 AM #553087bearishgurlParticipantsvelte, I feel the defective gas pedal recall is just one of Toyota’s “peremptory strikes.” I stand by my assertion that the recent/current hulabaloo over Toyota’s “quality and safety defects” is NOT OVER until the “fat lady sings.”
If you will recall, I stated that my current vehicle is 16 years old and my friends’ vehicles are similar ages. I don’t have any experience with the newer Toyotas except by looks and looking in the vehicle’s window comparison. I don’t know about the quality, per se, but I DO FEEL the standard equipment and size of interior has gone down a couple of notches in recent years, for the same model category of vehicle.
The most fun cars I have ever had were a bronze 1976 Celica and a Navy 1980 Celica with T-Top. I also had a red pearlized 1981 Honda Prelude. That was also very fun to drive, as were my friends’ Z-cars in the ’70’s (so much leg room – LOL).
I’ve sold and bought all my cars privately through the ads and Auto Trader. I’ve only owned two *new* vehicles in my whole life, both Toyotas. One was a brand new loaded ’79 Corolla Deluxe for $5400. I recall that I put down $1400 and borrowed $4000 for 3 yrs. at $145 mo (I’ve never had a car payment since). The other *new* veh. was purchased directly from an overseas distributor for cash, thus no dealer overhead π
IMHO, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to pay a “new-car premium” or pay for a vehicle on time.
May 23, 2010 at 11:36 AM #553193bearishgurlParticipantsvelte, I feel the defective gas pedal recall is just one of Toyota’s “peremptory strikes.” I stand by my assertion that the recent/current hulabaloo over Toyota’s “quality and safety defects” is NOT OVER until the “fat lady sings.”
If you will recall, I stated that my current vehicle is 16 years old and my friends’ vehicles are similar ages. I don’t have any experience with the newer Toyotas except by looks and looking in the vehicle’s window comparison. I don’t know about the quality, per se, but I DO FEEL the standard equipment and size of interior has gone down a couple of notches in recent years, for the same model category of vehicle.
The most fun cars I have ever had were a bronze 1976 Celica and a Navy 1980 Celica with T-Top. I also had a red pearlized 1981 Honda Prelude. That was also very fun to drive, as were my friends’ Z-cars in the ’70’s (so much leg room – LOL).
I’ve sold and bought all my cars privately through the ads and Auto Trader. I’ve only owned two *new* vehicles in my whole life, both Toyotas. One was a brand new loaded ’79 Corolla Deluxe for $5400. I recall that I put down $1400 and borrowed $4000 for 3 yrs. at $145 mo (I’ve never had a car payment since). The other *new* veh. was purchased directly from an overseas distributor for cash, thus no dealer overhead π
IMHO, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to pay a “new-car premium” or pay for a vehicle on time.
May 23, 2010 at 11:36 AM #553681bearishgurlParticipantsvelte, I feel the defective gas pedal recall is just one of Toyota’s “peremptory strikes.” I stand by my assertion that the recent/current hulabaloo over Toyota’s “quality and safety defects” is NOT OVER until the “fat lady sings.”
If you will recall, I stated that my current vehicle is 16 years old and my friends’ vehicles are similar ages. I don’t have any experience with the newer Toyotas except by looks and looking in the vehicle’s window comparison. I don’t know about the quality, per se, but I DO FEEL the standard equipment and size of interior has gone down a couple of notches in recent years, for the same model category of vehicle.
The most fun cars I have ever had were a bronze 1976 Celica and a Navy 1980 Celica with T-Top. I also had a red pearlized 1981 Honda Prelude. That was also very fun to drive, as were my friends’ Z-cars in the ’70’s (so much leg room – LOL).
I’ve sold and bought all my cars privately through the ads and Auto Trader. I’ve only owned two *new* vehicles in my whole life, both Toyotas. One was a brand new loaded ’79 Corolla Deluxe for $5400. I recall that I put down $1400 and borrowed $4000 for 3 yrs. at $145 mo (I’ve never had a car payment since). The other *new* veh. was purchased directly from an overseas distributor for cash, thus no dealer overhead π
IMHO, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to pay a “new-car premium” or pay for a vehicle on time.
May 23, 2010 at 11:36 AM #553779bearishgurlParticipantsvelte, I feel the defective gas pedal recall is just one of Toyota’s “peremptory strikes.” I stand by my assertion that the recent/current hulabaloo over Toyota’s “quality and safety defects” is NOT OVER until the “fat lady sings.”
If you will recall, I stated that my current vehicle is 16 years old and my friends’ vehicles are similar ages. I don’t have any experience with the newer Toyotas except by looks and looking in the vehicle’s window comparison. I don’t know about the quality, per se, but I DO FEEL the standard equipment and size of interior has gone down a couple of notches in recent years, for the same model category of vehicle.
The most fun cars I have ever had were a bronze 1976 Celica and a Navy 1980 Celica with T-Top. I also had a red pearlized 1981 Honda Prelude. That was also very fun to drive, as were my friends’ Z-cars in the ’70’s (so much leg room – LOL).
I’ve sold and bought all my cars privately through the ads and Auto Trader. I’ve only owned two *new* vehicles in my whole life, both Toyotas. One was a brand new loaded ’79 Corolla Deluxe for $5400. I recall that I put down $1400 and borrowed $4000 for 3 yrs. at $145 mo (I’ve never had a car payment since). The other *new* veh. was purchased directly from an overseas distributor for cash, thus no dealer overhead π
IMHO, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to pay a “new-car premium” or pay for a vehicle on time.
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