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June 6, 2015 at 9:04 AM #787049June 6, 2015 at 12:15 PM #787053
FlyerInHi
GuestI just like neighborhoods with different mixes of houses and development. Yes, you’re right that LA has many eclectic neighborhoods, even in the suburbs. I guess Glendale is considered a suburb. Since the opening of Americana, Glendale is hot.
Oh, and I love the mature trees in LA. Somehow the trees are nicer than in San Diego. In San Diego, even older neighborhoods like Mission Hills look denuded compared to LA.
June 6, 2015 at 9:38 PM #787059Jazzman
ParticipantI used to say to my wife the best thing about LA is the airport. It gets you far away from the place. The worst thing about LA is also the airport. When you arrive and have to rent a car and navigate those treacherous freeways it is no joke. It’s like driving along the Amalfi coast backwards in a truck blindfolded in the middle of a war. Your chances are better in Phnom Pehn during a festival. LA is a fine example of the oil industry dictating how we should live. There should be trains to Union Station from LAX every 15 minutes, and then a network of trains to all parts of LA. The city needs to stop sprawling and start condensing. Communities need to be built around live, work, and play. Homes need to be affordable. And stop growing grass everywhere. It’s the dessert FGS!
June 7, 2015 at 8:43 PM #787069ctr70
ParticipantI live in Seattle now but I always regretted looking back to my time in SoCal that I didn’t live in LA vs. SD. LA is a lot more cosmopolitan, there is more to do, way better sports (Lakers, Dodgers, Clippers, Kings, UCLA, USC, etc..). Most people who don’t like LA just drive though on the freeways or have pre-conceived notions. There are some very cool hip neighborhoods (like Silver Lake, Los Feliz, Echo Park for example).
The traffic does suck and it is crowded and has more crime than SD. But crime has fallen a lot over the last 25 yrs from what I hear. You can get more of that LA fakeness and superficialness up there too. So there are major downsides of course.
Also you can get to Santa Barbara way faster, Kings Canyon/Sequoia faster, LAX has way more non-stop flights EVERYWHERE. You have major mountain ranges just east.
SD is a solid place for a lot of folks and has a lot going for it. I just personally found SD kind of bland and boring. Kind of a bit of a backwater almost. Just a big surfing military town mostly. It is nice about SD though being able to access the beaches and mountains faster with less traffic.
June 8, 2015 at 5:16 AM #787074flyer
ParticipantWe find San Diego (RSF) gives us the best of all worlds. Compared to certain other cities, some might find it bland and boring, but we never seem to have a dull moment living here, so those perceptions might depend on the lifestyle one creates.
We spend quite a bit of time in LA because of my wife’s connection to the film business, but, even though we’ve considered Malibu, we just feel we wouldn’t gain anything we don’t already have here.
We definitely enjoy visiting other places for extended periods of time and immersing ourselves in the various elements each have to offer, but, we always look forward to coming “home.”
As with all things in life, it all comes down to personal choices, so there really is no right or wrong.
June 8, 2015 at 9:44 AM #787082CA renter
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I just like neighborhoods with different mixes of houses and development. Yes, you’re right that LA has many eclectic neighborhoods, even in the suburbs. I guess Glendale is considered a suburb. Since the opening of Americana, Glendale is hot.
Oh, and I love the mature trees in LA. Somehow the trees are nicer than in San Diego. In San Diego, even older neighborhoods like Mission Hills look denuded compared to LA.[/quote]
Yes, the suburbs in LA aren’t really suburbs in the way that a lot of other people think about them. LA is so densely populated, and industry is spread out so that a lot of people really don’t drive all over the place to get to work. Most people that I know drive 10-30 minutes to work.
And the trees!!! I really, really, really miss those trees. Not sure what the problem is in San Diego, but it reminds me an awful lot of The Lorax.
June 8, 2015 at 9:45 AM #787083Participant[quote=ctr70]I live in Seattle now but I always regretted looking back to my time in SoCal that I didn’t live in LA vs. SD. LA is a lot more cosmopolitan, there is more to do, way better sports (Lakers, Dodgers, Clippers, Kings, UCLA, USC, etc..). Most people who don’t like LA just drive though on the freeways or have pre-conceived notions. There are some very cool hip neighborhoods (like Silver Lake, Los Feliz, Echo Park for example).
The traffic does suck and it is crowded and has more crime than SD. But crime has fallen a lot over the last 25 yrs from what I hear. You can get more of that LA fakeness and superficialness up there too. So there are major downsides of course.
Also you can get to Santa Barbara way faster, Kings Canyon/Sequoia faster, LAX has way more non-stop flights EVERYWHERE. You have major mountain ranges just east.
SD is a solid place for a lot of folks and has a lot going for it. I just personally found SD kind of bland and boring. Kind of a bit of a backwater almost. Just a big surfing military town mostly. It is nice about SD though being able to access the beaches and mountains faster with less traffic.[/quote]
Good summary, ctr.
June 8, 2015 at 11:05 AM #787087The-Shoveler
ParticipantThere are two things nice about living in L.A. IMO.
1) You can live and work in a exurb and never go into the City (and still work for one of the largest well paying corporations in the world or a hot start-up).
This is a lot harder for the moment in and around SD.2) flights out of LAX are much much cheaper (and a lot more non-stops).
Also buying or fixing a Car seems a lot less expensive in L.A. as well.
But I still like living in SD over L.A. .
June 8, 2015 at 11:13 AM #787090spdrun
Participant1) Living in an exurban rathole is a good thing?
2) Speaking to domestic flights, they’re often cheaper than either LAX or SAN out of Santa Ana.As far as buying cars, can’t you just buy from a dealer or private sale in LA?
June 8, 2015 at 11:27 AM #787092ParticipantGoing out of John Wayne is about twice as expensive as LAX for flights to San Jose (I know I have done and priced both for the same day/time) (try going to Hawaii LOL.., international flights, LAX is the way to go “I drive there from SD because it is so much cheaper).
The Exurb’s are considered the exclusive area’s in L.A. with the exception of a few really high cost area’s near the city.
Most people would much rather live in say Moor park than anywhere near the main city (as an example).
June 8, 2015 at 11:41 AM #787094ParticipantPricing NYC-SNA, NYC-LAX, and NYC-SAN round trips next week, flexible dates, SNA is actually $10 cheaper than LAX and SAN is actually cheapest. But Monday isn’t generally a good day to do this since cheapest fares tend to publish mid-week.
And just because somewhere is “considered” exclusive doesn’t mean I give an aerial rodent’s behind about living there.
June 8, 2015 at 1:29 PM #787111Guest[quote=The-Shoveler]
But I still like living in SD over L.A. .[/quote]
That’s a personal opinion.
Let’s be realistic here. SD is a backwater compared to LA. Just because we live in San Diego doesn’t mean we are blind and can’t be objective.
Moorpark compared to LA? That’s because you’re a suburbanite at heart. I think that you’re missing a lot because LA has changed in the last 30 years. I don’t think that you can sell a house in Moorpark and buy a nice place in LA.
One thing about living the suburbs and having a charmed suburban life is that you get disconnected from urban trends and culture. It’s like my old cousin who lives in the suburbs of NYC. She’s disconnected to what had been happening in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Her son lives in Brooklyn and she just doesn’t understand.
June 8, 2015 at 1:38 PM #787112ParticipantWith the exception of maybe westwood or Beverly, or maybe some places right on the coast, Moorpark is much more expensive,
200sqf SFH home will cost you north of a million, or maybe with stucco view around a million.
OK maybe some parts of Encino will run you more.
June 8, 2015 at 1:42 PM #787113ParticipantOne of the things I like about SD is it has future potential.
its only a matter of time.
IMO places like Carlsbad will become major Job centers down the road.
June 8, 2015 at 1:57 PM #787114GuestA well renovated house in LA of the same standard in terms of improvements is more expensive, price per square foot wise. It’s like a well renovated old house in Point Loma is more than a newish house in Carlsbad or Encinitas. Generally, people live up there for that very reason.
Did you consider the areas around Griffith Park, West Hollywood, Hollywood Hills, Glendale, Pasadena…. are those suburbs or LA?
Beverly, Brentwood, Santa Monica, Malibu, etc.. are basically out of reach for most people.
Shoveler, don’t get me wrong, I understand the attraction of the suburbs: new, clean, safe, free of urban grunge, etc…
The nice suburbs are for firmly middle class folks who went to college, got a good job, got married and played by the rules. Boring! There will always be a place of them.
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