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June 29, 2010 at 8:12 AM #574109June 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM #573112AKParticipant
From some guy at the Fed via CR:
Subprime mortgages were not at the core of the global crisis; they were only indicative of the dramatic mispricing of virtually every asset everywhere in the world.
CR cites this as proof that “we’re all subprime now!” This is true … but it also suggests that “we’re all Japan now!”
Two decades of stimulus and deficit spending haven’t exactly done wonders for Japan. I don’t know which approach, austerity or heroic stimulus, will give the best results in the long run … but I do wonder why anyone could reasonably expect short-term economic growth in Ireland, Greece, Spain, the U.S., or just about any country that benefited from the massive economic distortions of the bubble era.
Well, maybe Malawi. I’ve read about the success of their subsidized fertilizer program.
June 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM #573205AKParticipantFrom some guy at the Fed via CR:
Subprime mortgages were not at the core of the global crisis; they were only indicative of the dramatic mispricing of virtually every asset everywhere in the world.
CR cites this as proof that “we’re all subprime now!” This is true … but it also suggests that “we’re all Japan now!”
Two decades of stimulus and deficit spending haven’t exactly done wonders for Japan. I don’t know which approach, austerity or heroic stimulus, will give the best results in the long run … but I do wonder why anyone could reasonably expect short-term economic growth in Ireland, Greece, Spain, the U.S., or just about any country that benefited from the massive economic distortions of the bubble era.
Well, maybe Malawi. I’ve read about the success of their subsidized fertilizer program.
June 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM #573722AKParticipantFrom some guy at the Fed via CR:
Subprime mortgages were not at the core of the global crisis; they were only indicative of the dramatic mispricing of virtually every asset everywhere in the world.
CR cites this as proof that “we’re all subprime now!” This is true … but it also suggests that “we’re all Japan now!”
Two decades of stimulus and deficit spending haven’t exactly done wonders for Japan. I don’t know which approach, austerity or heroic stimulus, will give the best results in the long run … but I do wonder why anyone could reasonably expect short-term economic growth in Ireland, Greece, Spain, the U.S., or just about any country that benefited from the massive economic distortions of the bubble era.
Well, maybe Malawi. I’ve read about the success of their subsidized fertilizer program.
June 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM #573827AKParticipantFrom some guy at the Fed via CR:
Subprime mortgages were not at the core of the global crisis; they were only indicative of the dramatic mispricing of virtually every asset everywhere in the world.
CR cites this as proof that “we’re all subprime now!” This is true … but it also suggests that “we’re all Japan now!”
Two decades of stimulus and deficit spending haven’t exactly done wonders for Japan. I don’t know which approach, austerity or heroic stimulus, will give the best results in the long run … but I do wonder why anyone could reasonably expect short-term economic growth in Ireland, Greece, Spain, the U.S., or just about any country that benefited from the massive economic distortions of the bubble era.
Well, maybe Malawi. I’ve read about the success of their subsidized fertilizer program.
June 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM #574124AKParticipantFrom some guy at the Fed via CR:
Subprime mortgages were not at the core of the global crisis; they were only indicative of the dramatic mispricing of virtually every asset everywhere in the world.
CR cites this as proof that “we’re all subprime now!” This is true … but it also suggests that “we’re all Japan now!”
Two decades of stimulus and deficit spending haven’t exactly done wonders for Japan. I don’t know which approach, austerity or heroic stimulus, will give the best results in the long run … but I do wonder why anyone could reasonably expect short-term economic growth in Ireland, Greece, Spain, the U.S., or just about any country that benefited from the massive economic distortions of the bubble era.
Well, maybe Malawi. I’ve read about the success of their subsidized fertilizer program.
June 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM #573117Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=AK]
I do hope the powers that be are rolling over short-term Treasuries into 10- and 30-year notes … or yeah, we’re Greeced.[/quote]Nope… you are right, that would be the smart move… but avg maturity is less than 5 years.
June 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM #573210Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=AK]
I do hope the powers that be are rolling over short-term Treasuries into 10- and 30-year notes … or yeah, we’re Greeced.[/quote]Nope… you are right, that would be the smart move… but avg maturity is less than 5 years.
June 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM #573727Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=AK]
I do hope the powers that be are rolling over short-term Treasuries into 10- and 30-year notes … or yeah, we’re Greeced.[/quote]Nope… you are right, that would be the smart move… but avg maturity is less than 5 years.
June 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM #573832Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=AK]
I do hope the powers that be are rolling over short-term Treasuries into 10- and 30-year notes … or yeah, we’re Greeced.[/quote]Nope… you are right, that would be the smart move… but avg maturity is less than 5 years.
June 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM #574129Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=AK]
I do hope the powers that be are rolling over short-term Treasuries into 10- and 30-year notes … or yeah, we’re Greeced.[/quote]Nope… you are right, that would be the smart move… but avg maturity is less than 5 years.
June 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM #573199jeemanParticipantThe only reason we had a surplus in 1998-2000 was because of massive capital gains tax revenues from the stock market bubble. When this went away, the deficits returned. Bush cut tax *rates*, but if you look at tax *revenue* charts, the revenues climbed after the rate cuts.
June 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM #573294jeemanParticipantThe only reason we had a surplus in 1998-2000 was because of massive capital gains tax revenues from the stock market bubble. When this went away, the deficits returned. Bush cut tax *rates*, but if you look at tax *revenue* charts, the revenues climbed after the rate cuts.
June 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM #573811jeemanParticipantThe only reason we had a surplus in 1998-2000 was because of massive capital gains tax revenues from the stock market bubble. When this went away, the deficits returned. Bush cut tax *rates*, but if you look at tax *revenue* charts, the revenues climbed after the rate cuts.
June 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM #573917jeemanParticipantThe only reason we had a surplus in 1998-2000 was because of massive capital gains tax revenues from the stock market bubble. When this went away, the deficits returned. Bush cut tax *rates*, but if you look at tax *revenue* charts, the revenues climbed after the rate cuts.
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