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January 21, 2011 at 9:07 AM #656834January 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM #657597
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE
January 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM #656797Participant[quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE
January 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM #657927Participant[quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE
January 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM #656859Participant[quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE
January 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM #657458Participant[quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE
January 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM #657977paramount
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE[/quote]
True, and I used more than a few shims. In some cases I epoxied shims in place using JB Weld which should last 50 years or more.
January 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM #656909Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE[/quote]
True, and I used more than a few shims. In some cases I epoxied shims in place using JB Weld which should last 50 years or more.
January 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM #657508Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE[/quote]
True, and I used more than a few shims. In some cases I epoxied shims in place using JB Weld which should last 50 years or more.
January 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM #656847Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE[/quote]
True, and I used more than a few shims. In some cases I epoxied shims in place using JB Weld which should last 50 years or more.
January 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM #657647Participant[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=paramount][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=MANmom]Not that hard to do unless your walls/ceilings are not square.[/quote]
I think this is the key.
If your not square to the world… It could be somewhat difficult and this where spending the money could be worth it.
CE[/quote]
Not in my experience if I understand the meaning of square in the above statement. Houses are framed with wood for the most part and not precision machines – not being square is a given.
Normally when installing cabinets you start in a location and the remainder of the cabinets (for the most part) are based on that first cabinet.[/quote]
Agreed.
But I use to grout tile in vegas and watched them have to shim some of the cabinets which was difficult. But then again some of the construction in Vegas we pretty sub-standard.
CE[/quote]
True, and I used more than a few shims. In some cases I epoxied shims in place using JB Weld which should last 50 years or more.
July 30, 2012 at 10:23 AM #749259sdduuuude
ParticipantThere’s two parts to this – one is building the cabinets. The other is installing them.
I have done both – making a built-in entertainment center and also installed my own kitchen cabinets that were made by a carpenter in Tijuana, which was a third the price of custom cabinets and less than half of Home Depot. THey were all plywood, too – not particle board. I wouldn’t recommend it, though. It was not easy. I was young, had time, and was on a budget so I could make it happen.
I like the Home Depot process alot, actually. Would recommend it if you aren’t handy. We also had some tricky custom corners that the “standard” Home Depot design process was not able to deal with for our kitchen. Used Home Depot for bath cabinets, though and installed those myself. Looks great.
I don’t know if IKEA has plywood cabinets or not but if they don’t, I would avoid it. Using any kind of particle-board cabinets in a kitchen near the sink is bad news. The water makes it swell. Same with Laminate flooring near a kitchen sink.
The key to getting the wall cabinets right is a cleat – just put the cleat ( I use a 1″ x 2″ pine strip ) on the wall nice and level. Then, attach another one to the cabinets. The cleat will hold the cabinet up while you secure it.
If you want to get real fancy, use a french cleat, but I have never need to do this.
CDMA is right that getting things level and square is the key. You have to make the cabinets an inch or two short just in case the room isn’t square, then order some extra filler and moulding to match the cabinets to hide the gaps.
The other thing to not underestimate is the amount of moulding work you have to do to make it look truly finished.
Many people can hang the wall cabinets and get them level and square but don’t know how to cover all the errors, corners, gaps, etc. If your website doesn’t show you how to do this, it is leading you on.
Also, if you don’t have a level floor, you have to shim them or you are in for a disaster.
I’d recommend getting a laser level – they help alot – and don’t settle for anything that isn’t level and square. Really. You’ll regret it if you think the first one is “close enough”
Walls that come together at near-90 degree angles will drive you mad. If the angle is > 90 degrees, you either have to live with a gap behind the cabinets that grows and grows, or you have to butt the wall-side of the cabinets together an leave a gap in the front and fix it will a filler strip and/or moulding. Like I said, this is the tricky part of cabinets that alot of videos don’t show you.
July 30, 2012 at 11:49 AM #749264Diego Mamani
ParticipantI like my circa 2001 kitchen cabinets, but I hate their color… a little too light for my taste. I would like to change them to something darker. Is staining or repainting something doable? (As you can see from my questions, I’m not an experienced DIYer…)
July 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM #749267desmond
ParticipantVery helpful dude although the guy finished his cabinets a year ago.
July 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM #749268ParticipantOld threads are the Piggington version of the IQ test that I fail at least once a month.
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