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March 12, 2011 at 1:24 AM #677426March 12, 2011 at 1:50 AM #676280
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Participant[quote=gandalf]What happened in Japan today was awful, just awful, beyond words.
Building codes are so important. Saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
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Yes, that’s why my subject line was “Japan’s Strict Building Codes Saved Lives”. I didn’t think anyone would take my hyberpole literally without having to out put a disclaimer. I have put a disclaimer now. Happy now?March 12, 2011 at 1:50 AM #676338equalizer
Participant[quote=gandalf]What happened in Japan today was awful, just awful, beyond words.
Building codes are so important. Saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
[/quote]
Yes, that’s why my subject line was “Japan’s Strict Building Codes Saved Lives”. I didn’t think anyone would take my hyberpole literally without having to out put a disclaimer. I have put a disclaimer now. Happy now?March 12, 2011 at 1:50 AM #676948equalizer
Participant[quote=gandalf]What happened in Japan today was awful, just awful, beyond words.
Building codes are so important. Saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
[/quote]
Yes, that’s why my subject line was “Japan’s Strict Building Codes Saved Lives”. I didn’t think anyone would take my hyberpole literally without having to out put a disclaimer. I have put a disclaimer now. Happy now?March 12, 2011 at 1:50 AM #677083equalizer
Participant[quote=gandalf]What happened in Japan today was awful, just awful, beyond words.
Building codes are so important. Saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
[/quote]
Yes, that’s why my subject line was “Japan’s Strict Building Codes Saved Lives”. I didn’t think anyone would take my hyberpole literally without having to out put a disclaimer. I have put a disclaimer now. Happy now?March 12, 2011 at 1:50 AM #677431equalizer
Participant[quote=gandalf]What happened in Japan today was awful, just awful, beyond words.
Building codes are so important. Saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
[/quote]
Yes, that’s why my subject line was “Japan’s Strict Building Codes Saved Lives”. I didn’t think anyone would take my hyberpole literally without having to out put a disclaimer. I have put a disclaimer now. Happy now?March 12, 2011 at 2:14 AM #676285equalizer
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]If you adopt tough building codes prices will rise too much and people can’t buy houses. Florida, on the other hand, gives free reign and hard working folks can at least have a nice cozy trailer home, unlike San Diego where many people have to commute from Riverside County[/quote]
Actually, this is not true.
The reason why Miami is cheaper than San Diego (ceteris paribus) is not so much tough building codes, as tough zoning regulations. We have lots of land that can’t be used for residential construction, and more land that is zoned at 1 or 2 acres per dwelling.
Earthquake building codes do not add much to the construction price.[/quote]
Builders used to claim that permits, codes, lumber prices, etc were the reason for the high prices, never mentioning your reasons or land prices.Earthquake retrofit for buildings can be extremely expensive, esp for hospitals. USCD Medical Center Hillcrest has stated in past that retrofit is too expensive, better to raze the building. Those massive costs are of course being passed onto HMO rates.
BTW, the oldest buildings are government buildings that are most vulnerable with deferred maintenace that won’t get done with these massive budget shortfalls. And yes, these upgrades should be done.
March 12, 2011 at 2:14 AM #676343equalizer
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]If you adopt tough building codes prices will rise too much and people can’t buy houses. Florida, on the other hand, gives free reign and hard working folks can at least have a nice cozy trailer home, unlike San Diego where many people have to commute from Riverside County[/quote]
Actually, this is not true.
The reason why Miami is cheaper than San Diego (ceteris paribus) is not so much tough building codes, as tough zoning regulations. We have lots of land that can’t be used for residential construction, and more land that is zoned at 1 or 2 acres per dwelling.
Earthquake building codes do not add much to the construction price.[/quote]
Builders used to claim that permits, codes, lumber prices, etc were the reason for the high prices, never mentioning your reasons or land prices.Earthquake retrofit for buildings can be extremely expensive, esp for hospitals. USCD Medical Center Hillcrest has stated in past that retrofit is too expensive, better to raze the building. Those massive costs are of course being passed onto HMO rates.
BTW, the oldest buildings are government buildings that are most vulnerable with deferred maintenace that won’t get done with these massive budget shortfalls. And yes, these upgrades should be done.
March 12, 2011 at 2:14 AM #676953equalizer
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]If you adopt tough building codes prices will rise too much and people can’t buy houses. Florida, on the other hand, gives free reign and hard working folks can at least have a nice cozy trailer home, unlike San Diego where many people have to commute from Riverside County[/quote]
Actually, this is not true.
The reason why Miami is cheaper than San Diego (ceteris paribus) is not so much tough building codes, as tough zoning regulations. We have lots of land that can’t be used for residential construction, and more land that is zoned at 1 or 2 acres per dwelling.
Earthquake building codes do not add much to the construction price.[/quote]
Builders used to claim that permits, codes, lumber prices, etc were the reason for the high prices, never mentioning your reasons or land prices.Earthquake retrofit for buildings can be extremely expensive, esp for hospitals. USCD Medical Center Hillcrest has stated in past that retrofit is too expensive, better to raze the building. Those massive costs are of course being passed onto HMO rates.
BTW, the oldest buildings are government buildings that are most vulnerable with deferred maintenace that won’t get done with these massive budget shortfalls. And yes, these upgrades should be done.
March 12, 2011 at 2:14 AM #677088equalizer
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]If you adopt tough building codes prices will rise too much and people can’t buy houses. Florida, on the other hand, gives free reign and hard working folks can at least have a nice cozy trailer home, unlike San Diego where many people have to commute from Riverside County[/quote]
Actually, this is not true.
The reason why Miami is cheaper than San Diego (ceteris paribus) is not so much tough building codes, as tough zoning regulations. We have lots of land that can’t be used for residential construction, and more land that is zoned at 1 or 2 acres per dwelling.
Earthquake building codes do not add much to the construction price.[/quote]
Builders used to claim that permits, codes, lumber prices, etc were the reason for the high prices, never mentioning your reasons or land prices.Earthquake retrofit for buildings can be extremely expensive, esp for hospitals. USCD Medical Center Hillcrest has stated in past that retrofit is too expensive, better to raze the building. Those massive costs are of course being passed onto HMO rates.
BTW, the oldest buildings are government buildings that are most vulnerable with deferred maintenace that won’t get done with these massive budget shortfalls. And yes, these upgrades should be done.
March 12, 2011 at 2:14 AM #677436equalizer
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote]If you adopt tough building codes prices will rise too much and people can’t buy houses. Florida, on the other hand, gives free reign and hard working folks can at least have a nice cozy trailer home, unlike San Diego where many people have to commute from Riverside County[/quote]
Actually, this is not true.
The reason why Miami is cheaper than San Diego (ceteris paribus) is not so much tough building codes, as tough zoning regulations. We have lots of land that can’t be used for residential construction, and more land that is zoned at 1 or 2 acres per dwelling.
Earthquake building codes do not add much to the construction price.[/quote]
Builders used to claim that permits, codes, lumber prices, etc were the reason for the high prices, never mentioning your reasons or land prices.Earthquake retrofit for buildings can be extremely expensive, esp for hospitals. USCD Medical Center Hillcrest has stated in past that retrofit is too expensive, better to raze the building. Those massive costs are of course being passed onto HMO rates.
BTW, the oldest buildings are government buildings that are most vulnerable with deferred maintenace that won’t get done with these massive budget shortfalls. And yes, these upgrades should be done.
March 12, 2011 at 9:30 AM #676345svelte
Participant[quote=flu]My understanding is Japan prepares extensively for big earthquakes of this magnitude……Interestingly,:
[/quote]I keep hearing this. Yet, in none of the many many videos of the quake I saw yesterday did anyone get under a desk or in a doorframe.
March 12, 2011 at 9:30 AM #676402svelte
Participant[quote=flu]My understanding is Japan prepares extensively for big earthquakes of this magnitude……Interestingly,:
[/quote]I keep hearing this. Yet, in none of the many many videos of the quake I saw yesterday did anyone get under a desk or in a doorframe.
March 12, 2011 at 9:30 AM #677010svelte
Participant[quote=flu]My understanding is Japan prepares extensively for big earthquakes of this magnitude……Interestingly,:
[/quote]I keep hearing this. Yet, in none of the many many videos of the quake I saw yesterday did anyone get under a desk or in a doorframe.
March 12, 2011 at 9:30 AM #677146svelte
Participant[quote=flu]My understanding is Japan prepares extensively for big earthquakes of this magnitude……Interestingly,:
[/quote]I keep hearing this. Yet, in none of the many many videos of the quake I saw yesterday did anyone get under a desk or in a doorframe.
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