IT Jobs ???? In San Diego ??? Anywhere ????

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[quote=flu] Very few are working on the actual wireless protocol, etc. How many of them are really using their communication theory, digital signal processing background,etc.
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I used to work at Bell Labs in N.J., in the same building where many of the wireless protocols were in fact designed. All of the PI’s had a Masters at least. Most had Ph.D’s.

And I suspect the teams providing the specs to the implementation guys are similar.

Anyways, it takes all kinds to make the world work. I appreciate everyone with a good work ethic, whether they are diplomats or ditch-diggers.

I do feel bad at times that I slacked off in school and have ended up doing better than many people that spent 8-10 years in higher ed and ran up 100k of student loans. But such is life; I assume.

[Eugene]

My team works on a fairly well known technology-intensive software product (I won’t say which one, but, chances are, you have it on your PC).

We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.

Admittedly, we don’t have the resources of Microsoft or Motorola, and so we’re light on R&D, where those degrees might shine. Even so, a bright B.S. in EE with good understanding of the technology is more likely to come up with something nice and patentable than a run-of-the-mill Ph.D. who stayed in an ivory tower till the age of 30.

I don’t think there are many people in IT without any degrees whatsoever. But a B.S. in EE/CS/physics/even math, combined with good work experience and brains, is a sufficient qualification for most jobs.

[Eugene]

My team works on a fairly well known technology-intensive software product (I won’t say which one, but, chances are, you have it on your PC).

We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.

Admittedly, we don’t have the resources of Microsoft or Motorola, and so we’re light on R&D, where those degrees might shine. Even so, a bright B.S. in EE with good understanding of the technology is more likely to come up with something nice and patentable than a run-of-the-mill Ph.D. who stayed in an ivory tower till the age of 30.

I don’t think there are many people in IT without any degrees whatsoever. But a B.S. in EE/CS/physics/even math, combined with good work experience and brains, is a sufficient qualification for most jobs.

[Eugene]

My team works on a fairly well known technology-intensive software product (I won’t say which one, but, chances are, you have it on your PC).

We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.

Admittedly, we don’t have the resources of Microsoft or Motorola, and so we’re light on R&D, where those degrees might shine. Even so, a bright B.S. in EE with good understanding of the technology is more likely to come up with something nice and patentable than a run-of-the-mill Ph.D. who stayed in an ivory tower till the age of 30.

I don’t think there are many people in IT without any degrees whatsoever. But a B.S. in EE/CS/physics/even math, combined with good work experience and brains, is a sufficient qualification for most jobs.

[Eugene]

My team works on a fairly well known technology-intensive software product (I won’t say which one, but, chances are, you have it on your PC).

We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.

Admittedly, we don’t have the resources of Microsoft or Motorola, and so we’re light on R&D, where those degrees might shine. Even so, a bright B.S. in EE with good understanding of the technology is more likely to come up with something nice and patentable than a run-of-the-mill Ph.D. who stayed in an ivory tower till the age of 30.

I don’t think there are many people in IT without any degrees whatsoever. But a B.S. in EE/CS/physics/even math, combined with good work experience and brains, is a sufficient qualification for most jobs.

[Eugene]

My team works on a fairly well known technology-intensive software product (I won’t say which one, but, chances are, you have it on your PC).

We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.

Admittedly, we don’t have the resources of Microsoft or Motorola, and so we’re light on R&D, where those degrees might shine. Even so, a bright B.S. in EE with good understanding of the technology is more likely to come up with something nice and patentable than a run-of-the-mill Ph.D. who stayed in an ivory tower till the age of 30.

I don’t think there are many people in IT without any degrees whatsoever. But a B.S. in EE/CS/physics/even math, combined with good work experience and brains, is a sufficient qualification for most jobs.

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We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.
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Something I’ve complained about for years is what I call “degree inflation”.

More and more people are pushed into Masters/PhD programs that shouldn’t be and therefore dilute the pool of talent, so to speak. So the letters themselves simply mean less now than they used to.

There are also many people that stay in school simply because they don’t know how to do anything else. Hence the lack of practical skills, or even the ability or desire to learn them.

Myself, I always wanted to be a system/network/security analyst/engineer. I followed the path that felt right at the time and have been modestly rewarded for it; despite not having much of a formal education.

I’ll comment that in my particular area of expertise, computer security, many of the big name talent has no formal education at all. Some are even high school drop-outs.

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[quote=esmith]
We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.
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Something I’ve complained about for years is what I call “degree inflation”.

More and more people are pushed into Masters/PhD programs that shouldn’t be and therefore dilute the pool of talent, so to speak. So the letters themselves simply mean less now than they used to.

There are also many people that stay in school simply because they don’t know how to do anything else. Hence the lack of practical skills, or even the ability or desire to learn them.

Myself, I always wanted to be a system/network/security analyst/engineer. I followed the path that felt right at the time and have been modestly rewarded for it; despite not having much of a formal education.

I’ll comment that in my particular area of expertise, computer security, many of the big name talent has no formal education at all. Some are even high school drop-outs.

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[quote=esmith]
We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.
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Something I’ve complained about for years is what I call “degree inflation”.

More and more people are pushed into Masters/PhD programs that shouldn’t be and therefore dilute the pool of talent, so to speak. So the letters themselves simply mean less now than they used to.

There are also many people that stay in school simply because they don’t know how to do anything else. Hence the lack of practical skills, or even the ability or desire to learn them.

Myself, I always wanted to be a system/network/security analyst/engineer. I followed the path that felt right at the time and have been modestly rewarded for it; despite not having much of a formal education.

I’ll comment that in my particular area of expertise, computer security, many of the big name talent has no formal education at all. Some are even high school drop-outs.

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[quote=esmith]
We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.
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Something I’ve complained about for years is what I call “degree inflation”.

More and more people are pushed into Masters/PhD programs that shouldn’t be and therefore dilute the pool of talent, so to speak. So the letters themselves simply mean less now than they used to.

There are also many people that stay in school simply because they don’t know how to do anything else. Hence the lack of practical skills, or even the ability or desire to learn them.

Myself, I always wanted to be a system/network/security analyst/engineer. I followed the path that felt right at the time and have been modestly rewarded for it; despite not having much of a formal education.

I’ll comment that in my particular area of expertise, computer security, many of the big name talent has no formal education at all. Some are even high school drop-outs.

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[quote=esmith]
We don’t have a single Ph.D. on our team. We had two Ph.D.s in the past. Both of them turned out to be incompetent at writing the actual code, one got into a conflict with management, the other was let go due to being relatively useless. I participated in many interviews of prospective applicants. The overall level of practical skills of Ph.D.s is quite appalling.
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Something I’ve complained about for years is what I call “degree inflation”.

More and more people are pushed into Masters/PhD programs that shouldn’t be and therefore dilute the pool of talent, so to speak. So the letters themselves simply mean less now than they used to.

There are also many people that stay in school simply because they don’t know how to do anything else. Hence the lack of practical skills, or even the ability or desire to learn them.

Myself, I always wanted to be a system/network/security analyst/engineer. I followed the path that felt right at the time and have been modestly rewarded for it; despite not having much of a formal education.

I’ll comment that in my particular area of expertise, computer security, many of the big name talent has no formal education at all. Some are even high school drop-outs.

[paramount]

In reference to an earlier comment about “real engineers” vs IT Engineers, there are Mission Critical IT functions, one such field is Aviation/avionics.

But to address the OP, is there any way at all that you could train in a new field? As I have stated before but without going into details, IT sucks IMO.

I know starting a new career isn’t easy, but in the long run you might be better off.

You might want to check out the forums on dice.com – very enlightening. I would not waste much time trying to find a job on Dice (as many are fake), but the forums are a great resource for those in IT.

[paramount]

In reference to an earlier comment about “real engineers” vs IT Engineers, there are Mission Critical IT functions, one such field is Aviation/avionics.

But to address the OP, is there any way at all that you could train in a new field? As I have stated before but without going into details, IT sucks IMO.

I know starting a new career isn’t easy, but in the long run you might be better off.

You might want to check out the forums on dice.com – very enlightening. I would not waste much time trying to find a job on Dice (as many are fake), but the forums are a great resource for those in IT.

[paramount]

In reference to an earlier comment about “real engineers” vs IT Engineers, there are Mission Critical IT functions, one such field is Aviation/avionics.

But to address the OP, is there any way at all that you could train in a new field? As I have stated before but without going into details, IT sucks IMO.

I know starting a new career isn’t easy, but in the long run you might be better off.

You might want to check out the forums on dice.com – very enlightening. I would not waste much time trying to find a job on Dice (as many are fake), but the forums are a great resource for those in IT.

[paramount]

In reference to an earlier comment about “real engineers” vs IT Engineers, there are Mission Critical IT functions, one such field is Aviation/avionics.

But to address the OP, is there any way at all that you could train in a new field? As I have stated before but without going into details, IT sucks IMO.

I know starting a new career isn’t easy, but in the long run you might be better off.

You might want to check out the forums on dice.com – very enlightening. I would not waste much time trying to find a job on Dice (as many are fake), but the forums are a great resource for those in IT.

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