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September 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM #752019September 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM #752018anParticipant
I don’t know what transpired either and I don’t know when Apple started maps either. But, what we do know is, maps is half-baked, which means they released it too soo. Google have been know release beta software, but not Apple. Only recently did Gmail came out of beta. So, your Google example is not a really good one. Many Apple fans have been poking fun of Android for and basically calling it a beta. Apple pride themselves in releasing stuff when it’s ready and good. Which is why iOS didn’t have copy and paste when it was released. Maps-gate is an issue for regular user, or else, why would Tim Cook come out and publicly apologize?
Google release those features for their Android maps, regardless of whether Apple have their own Maps or not. Those features have been in development for probably as long as Apple started their Maps endeavor. As you stated, those features have been in Google Earth and now they’re just porting it to maps. Again, like I said, competition is good. However, in this case, it didn’t drive Google to do anything different than they have been doing. It will only be good for end users once Apple’s map database is as robust as Nokia and Google and they license out those data, just like Nokia and Google. If they don’t, then the effect to end user is probably limited, unless you use an iDevice.
BTW, this is what Nokia has to say about it: http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/28/nokia-navigation-business/#continued
“What we are doing on a global scale is difficult. It’s difficult and expensive. Everybody who wants to get into that should understand what they are getting themselves into.” Apple, in other words, is in for a hell of a marathon if it wants to deliver something as comprehensive as the petabytes of data Navteq has acquired, and catching up on 30 years of expertise won’t be easy.” I have to agree with him. This is how Google builds their maps: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/09/how-google-builds-its-maps-and-what-it-means-for-the-future-of-everything/261913/. So, yeah, it’s a long way away before Apple Maps will start to be at parity, much less pushing the boundaries and cause a positive effect for end users.September 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM #752021allParticipantApple fans have been poking fun of Android the same way you are poking fun of Apple Maps. I find multi-billion dollar corporate entities to be silly object of affection.
Let me prove my non-fanboy credentials – Apple produces some really crappy software compared to competitors. The dev tools are years behind what MS makes – every release of Xcode introduces new simulator-related issues, like it’s by design. Apple iTunes causes brain freeze on Mac and Win version should be banned. OS X not having cut/paste for files is moronic. The entire app store feels like a happy accident – inability to transfer app ownership between corporate accounts almost four years later is frustrating.
But the maps-gate is mostly marketing, like the stupid verizon/at&t N-g coverage maps.
Here is the consumer report’s bottom line link:
Both the free Apple and Google navigation apps provide clear routing directions. Apple feels like a less-mature product. But as seen with the initial competing applications for the iPhone, we would expect updates to this new app over time–and Apple has promised as much. When getting down to the nitty gritty, Google provides a better overall package, but we feel that both provide a good solution for standard software. We expect the competition between the companies will benefit customers with ongoing improvements.
September 28, 2012 at 4:06 PM #752022ocrenterParticipant[quote=AN]hahahha: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=27809
[quote=Tim Cook]While we’re improving Maps, you can try alternatives by downloading map apps from the App Store like Bing, MapQuest and Waze, or use Google or Nokia maps by going to their websites and creating an icon on your home screen to their web app.[/quote][/quote]
“WWSJD aka What Would Steve Jobs Do?”
LOL!
September 28, 2012 at 4:20 PM #752023anParticipant[quote=craptcha]Apple fans have been poking fun of Android the same way you are poking fun of Apple Maps. I find multi-billion dollar corporate entities to be silly object of affection.
Let me prove my non-fanboy credentials – Apple produces some really crappy software compared to competitors. The dev tools are years behind what MS makes – every release of Xcode introduces new simulator-related issues, like it’s by design. Apple iTunes causes brain freeze on Mac and Win version should be banned. OS X not having cut/paste for files is moronic. The entire app store feels like a happy accident – inability to transfer app ownership between corporate accounts almost four years later is frustrating.
But the maps-gate is mostly marketing, like the stupid verizon/at&t N-g coverage maps.
Here is the consumer report’s bottom line link:
Both the free Apple and Google navigation apps provide clear routing directions. Apple feels like a less-mature product. But as seen with the initial competing applications for the iPhone, we would expect updates to this new app over time–and Apple has promised as much. When getting down to the nitty gritty, Google provides a better overall package, but we feel that both provide a good solution for standard software. We expect the competition between the companies will benefit customers with ongoing improvements.
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I’m not a fanboy of any one specific platform. I’m a fanboy of technology. I like competition. Especially when a underdog release something that’s superior to the top dog’s solution. Android have their fair share of problems as well.I’m only making fun of Maps-gate because Apple fan tend to be the most arrogant. It’s all fun and game for me.
Again, if it’s really a non-issue and is just a marketing thing, then why did Tim Cook came out, apologize, and tell his customers to use a different solution if they’re not happy? Why not just say, all of these Maps-gate is a non-issue and is just their competitor’s negative marketing against Apple?
September 28, 2012 at 9:46 PM #752027allParticipant[quote=AN]
Again, if it’s really a non-issue and is just a marketing thing, then why did Tim Cook came out, apologize, and tell his customers to use a different solution if they’re not happy? Why not just say, all of these Maps-gate is a non-issue and is just their competitor’s negative marketing against Apple?[/quote]Marketing? You think Tim Cook genuinely cares about providing the best possible experience for the user regardless of the bottom line and he’s willing to suggest competing product in order to achieve that goal?
September 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM #752030anParticipant[quote=craptcha]Marketing? You think Tim Cook genuinely cares about providing the best possible experience for the user regardless of the bottom line and he’s willing to suggest competing product in order to achieve that goal?[/quote]
I’m confused at what you’re getting at here. You’re the one who’s suggesting this is mostly just marketing. Not me.
[quote=craptcha]But the maps-gate is mostly marketing, like the stupid verizon/at&t N-g coverage maps.[/quote] -
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