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February 5, 2009 at 6:09 PM #341541February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM #342380EugeneParticipant
[quote]The Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey uses the “Median Multiple” (median house price divided by median household income) to assess housing affordability.[/quote]
Yesterday I was bored enough to look up numbers for my old home town.
Median household income: no hard data. Average per capita income $3000..$3500/year. Median household income is probably 8..9K/year.
Median property price according to their city-wide MLS: $37,500
Median multiple is 4..4.5 – “Seriously Unaffordable” but well below San Diego’s 5.9.
An awfully affordable place compared to San Diego, right?
Just a few problems. Food, clothes, electronics cost about as much as here. It’s not unheard of for a family to spend 50% of income on food. A “median property” is a 500 square foot apartment. Typical mortgage interest rates are in the double digits.
February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM #342702EugeneParticipant[quote]The Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey uses the “Median Multiple” (median house price divided by median household income) to assess housing affordability.[/quote]
Yesterday I was bored enough to look up numbers for my old home town.
Median household income: no hard data. Average per capita income $3000..$3500/year. Median household income is probably 8..9K/year.
Median property price according to their city-wide MLS: $37,500
Median multiple is 4..4.5 – “Seriously Unaffordable” but well below San Diego’s 5.9.
An awfully affordable place compared to San Diego, right?
Just a few problems. Food, clothes, electronics cost about as much as here. It’s not unheard of for a family to spend 50% of income on food. A “median property” is a 500 square foot apartment. Typical mortgage interest rates are in the double digits.
February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM #342934EugeneParticipant[quote]The Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey uses the “Median Multiple” (median house price divided by median household income) to assess housing affordability.[/quote]
Yesterday I was bored enough to look up numbers for my old home town.
Median household income: no hard data. Average per capita income $3000..$3500/year. Median household income is probably 8..9K/year.
Median property price according to their city-wide MLS: $37,500
Median multiple is 4..4.5 – “Seriously Unaffordable” but well below San Diego’s 5.9.
An awfully affordable place compared to San Diego, right?
Just a few problems. Food, clothes, electronics cost about as much as here. It’s not unheard of for a family to spend 50% of income on food. A “median property” is a 500 square foot apartment. Typical mortgage interest rates are in the double digits.
February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM #342809EugeneParticipant[quote]The Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey uses the “Median Multiple” (median house price divided by median household income) to assess housing affordability.[/quote]
Yesterday I was bored enough to look up numbers for my old home town.
Median household income: no hard data. Average per capita income $3000..$3500/year. Median household income is probably 8..9K/year.
Median property price according to their city-wide MLS: $37,500
Median multiple is 4..4.5 – “Seriously Unaffordable” but well below San Diego’s 5.9.
An awfully affordable place compared to San Diego, right?
Just a few problems. Food, clothes, electronics cost about as much as here. It’s not unheard of for a family to spend 50% of income on food. A “median property” is a 500 square foot apartment. Typical mortgage interest rates are in the double digits.
February 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM #342836EugeneParticipant[quote]The Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey uses the “Median Multiple” (median house price divided by median household income) to assess housing affordability.[/quote]
Yesterday I was bored enough to look up numbers for my old home town.
Median household income: no hard data. Average per capita income $3000..$3500/year. Median household income is probably 8..9K/year.
Median property price according to their city-wide MLS: $37,500
Median multiple is 4..4.5 – “Seriously Unaffordable” but well below San Diego’s 5.9.
An awfully affordable place compared to San Diego, right?
Just a few problems. Food, clothes, electronics cost about as much as here. It’s not unheard of for a family to spend 50% of income on food. A “median property” is a 500 square foot apartment. Typical mortgage interest rates are in the double digits.
February 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM #342980EconProfParticipantWhat jumps out from the data shown is how the poor ought to see environmentalists as their natural enemy. Their housing costs–both rents and purchase prices–are worse wherever land prices are highest. Land prices are most influenced by geographical constraints (notice how all the expensive cities are next to water), population trends, and the strength of environmental laws creating land shortages.
Accordingly, the most expensive cities for the poor tend to be liberal bastions: San Fran, NY, San Luis Obispo, Seattle, Santa Barbara, etc. The cities that remain cheap despite growing populations are Phoenix, Atlanta, Las Vegas, any city in Texas, etc.February 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM #342882EconProfParticipantWhat jumps out from the data shown is how the poor ought to see environmentalists as their natural enemy. Their housing costs–both rents and purchase prices–are worse wherever land prices are highest. Land prices are most influenced by geographical constraints (notice how all the expensive cities are next to water), population trends, and the strength of environmental laws creating land shortages.
Accordingly, the most expensive cities for the poor tend to be liberal bastions: San Fran, NY, San Luis Obispo, Seattle, Santa Barbara, etc. The cities that remain cheap despite growing populations are Phoenix, Atlanta, Las Vegas, any city in Texas, etc.February 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM #342855EconProfParticipantWhat jumps out from the data shown is how the poor ought to see environmentalists as their natural enemy. Their housing costs–both rents and purchase prices–are worse wherever land prices are highest. Land prices are most influenced by geographical constraints (notice how all the expensive cities are next to water), population trends, and the strength of environmental laws creating land shortages.
Accordingly, the most expensive cities for the poor tend to be liberal bastions: San Fran, NY, San Luis Obispo, Seattle, Santa Barbara, etc. The cities that remain cheap despite growing populations are Phoenix, Atlanta, Las Vegas, any city in Texas, etc.February 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM #342747EconProfParticipantWhat jumps out from the data shown is how the poor ought to see environmentalists as their natural enemy. Their housing costs–both rents and purchase prices–are worse wherever land prices are highest. Land prices are most influenced by geographical constraints (notice how all the expensive cities are next to water), population trends, and the strength of environmental laws creating land shortages.
Accordingly, the most expensive cities for the poor tend to be liberal bastions: San Fran, NY, San Luis Obispo, Seattle, Santa Barbara, etc. The cities that remain cheap despite growing populations are Phoenix, Atlanta, Las Vegas, any city in Texas, etc.February 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM #342425EconProfParticipantWhat jumps out from the data shown is how the poor ought to see environmentalists as their natural enemy. Their housing costs–both rents and purchase prices–are worse wherever land prices are highest. Land prices are most influenced by geographical constraints (notice how all the expensive cities are next to water), population trends, and the strength of environmental laws creating land shortages.
Accordingly, the most expensive cities for the poor tend to be liberal bastions: San Fran, NY, San Luis Obispo, Seattle, Santa Barbara, etc. The cities that remain cheap despite growing populations are Phoenix, Atlanta, Las Vegas, any city in Texas, etc. -
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