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March 16, 2011 at 5:42 AM #678542March 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM #681282bearishgurlParticipant
Just saw this this morning. It’s what I’ve always believed. “Day traders” are the ones manipulating the price of gas. It has nothing to do with “supply and demand.”
. . . The Biggest Winners
Among the biggest winners of the new oil markets are investment banks like Goldman Sachs (GS) and Morgan Stanley (MS), which create new products for clients and then use that information to trade on the products. In 2004 and 2005, Goldman Sachs made $1.5 billion a year trading oil, Dicker says. In the first half of 2009 alone, the firm made $3.4 billion oil trading profits. Firms like Goldman are not taking bets that oil will move lower or higher. Trading simply means naming a spread of buy and sell prices from which they can eke out tiny but regular profits, a business without risk.
Dicker is particularly contemptuous of oil ETFs of the kind that many small investors have used as vehicles to diversify their holdings. “In these markets, they way they are set up, with all the edges with investment banks, the regular investor is just fodder,” Dicker says. “The ETFs are the world’s worst investment. They’ve only lasted this long because oil prices continue to rally.”
So if gas prices would come down sharply with minimal regulation, why doesn’t the government step in and impose limitations as it has done recently for other derivatives, forcing most firms to conduct their trading on exchanges? Dicker believes it is largely because large financial firms with a direct interest in oil trading have made so much money with oil that they can afford to lobby Congress to block any significant reforms.
March 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM #681334bearishgurlParticipantJust saw this this morning. It’s what I’ve always believed. “Day traders” are the ones manipulating the price of gas. It has nothing to do with “supply and demand.”
. . . The Biggest Winners
Among the biggest winners of the new oil markets are investment banks like Goldman Sachs (GS) and Morgan Stanley (MS), which create new products for clients and then use that information to trade on the products. In 2004 and 2005, Goldman Sachs made $1.5 billion a year trading oil, Dicker says. In the first half of 2009 alone, the firm made $3.4 billion oil trading profits. Firms like Goldman are not taking bets that oil will move lower or higher. Trading simply means naming a spread of buy and sell prices from which they can eke out tiny but regular profits, a business without risk.
Dicker is particularly contemptuous of oil ETFs of the kind that many small investors have used as vehicles to diversify their holdings. “In these markets, they way they are set up, with all the edges with investment banks, the regular investor is just fodder,” Dicker says. “The ETFs are the world’s worst investment. They’ve only lasted this long because oil prices continue to rally.”
So if gas prices would come down sharply with minimal regulation, why doesn’t the government step in and impose limitations as it has done recently for other derivatives, forcing most firms to conduct their trading on exchanges? Dicker believes it is largely because large financial firms with a direct interest in oil trading have made so much money with oil that they can afford to lobby Congress to block any significant reforms.
March 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM #681952bearishgurlParticipantJust saw this this morning. It’s what I’ve always believed. “Day traders” are the ones manipulating the price of gas. It has nothing to do with “supply and demand.”
. . . The Biggest Winners
Among the biggest winners of the new oil markets are investment banks like Goldman Sachs (GS) and Morgan Stanley (MS), which create new products for clients and then use that information to trade on the products. In 2004 and 2005, Goldman Sachs made $1.5 billion a year trading oil, Dicker says. In the first half of 2009 alone, the firm made $3.4 billion oil trading profits. Firms like Goldman are not taking bets that oil will move lower or higher. Trading simply means naming a spread of buy and sell prices from which they can eke out tiny but regular profits, a business without risk.
Dicker is particularly contemptuous of oil ETFs of the kind that many small investors have used as vehicles to diversify their holdings. “In these markets, they way they are set up, with all the edges with investment banks, the regular investor is just fodder,” Dicker says. “The ETFs are the world’s worst investment. They’ve only lasted this long because oil prices continue to rally.”
So if gas prices would come down sharply with minimal regulation, why doesn’t the government step in and impose limitations as it has done recently for other derivatives, forcing most firms to conduct their trading on exchanges? Dicker believes it is largely because large financial firms with a direct interest in oil trading have made so much money with oil that they can afford to lobby Congress to block any significant reforms.
March 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM #682091bearishgurlParticipantJust saw this this morning. It’s what I’ve always believed. “Day traders” are the ones manipulating the price of gas. It has nothing to do with “supply and demand.”
. . . The Biggest Winners
Among the biggest winners of the new oil markets are investment banks like Goldman Sachs (GS) and Morgan Stanley (MS), which create new products for clients and then use that information to trade on the products. In 2004 and 2005, Goldman Sachs made $1.5 billion a year trading oil, Dicker says. In the first half of 2009 alone, the firm made $3.4 billion oil trading profits. Firms like Goldman are not taking bets that oil will move lower or higher. Trading simply means naming a spread of buy and sell prices from which they can eke out tiny but regular profits, a business without risk.
Dicker is particularly contemptuous of oil ETFs of the kind that many small investors have used as vehicles to diversify their holdings. “In these markets, they way they are set up, with all the edges with investment banks, the regular investor is just fodder,” Dicker says. “The ETFs are the world’s worst investment. They’ve only lasted this long because oil prices continue to rally.”
So if gas prices would come down sharply with minimal regulation, why doesn’t the government step in and impose limitations as it has done recently for other derivatives, forcing most firms to conduct their trading on exchanges? Dicker believes it is largely because large financial firms with a direct interest in oil trading have made so much money with oil that they can afford to lobby Congress to block any significant reforms.
March 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM #682444bearishgurlParticipantJust saw this this morning. It’s what I’ve always believed. “Day traders” are the ones manipulating the price of gas. It has nothing to do with “supply and demand.”
. . . The Biggest Winners
Among the biggest winners of the new oil markets are investment banks like Goldman Sachs (GS) and Morgan Stanley (MS), which create new products for clients and then use that information to trade on the products. In 2004 and 2005, Goldman Sachs made $1.5 billion a year trading oil, Dicker says. In the first half of 2009 alone, the firm made $3.4 billion oil trading profits. Firms like Goldman are not taking bets that oil will move lower or higher. Trading simply means naming a spread of buy and sell prices from which they can eke out tiny but regular profits, a business without risk.
Dicker is particularly contemptuous of oil ETFs of the kind that many small investors have used as vehicles to diversify their holdings. “In these markets, they way they are set up, with all the edges with investment banks, the regular investor is just fodder,” Dicker says. “The ETFs are the world’s worst investment. They’ve only lasted this long because oil prices continue to rally.”
So if gas prices would come down sharply with minimal regulation, why doesn’t the government step in and impose limitations as it has done recently for other derivatives, forcing most firms to conduct their trading on exchanges? Dicker believes it is largely because large financial firms with a direct interest in oil trading have made so much money with oil that they can afford to lobby Congress to block any significant reforms.
March 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM #681375CA renterParticipantThanks for posting that, BG.
BTW, we took a drive around Mt. Helix yesterday for the first time, based largely on your recommendations and rave reviews of the area. π
It really is a beautiful area, with gorgeous homes. Unfortunately, it’s too far from work for us, but if we worked in SD, buying there would be very tempting.
Thanks for sharing your perspectives on the different areas in SD, BG.
March 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM #681429CA renterParticipantThanks for posting that, BG.
BTW, we took a drive around Mt. Helix yesterday for the first time, based largely on your recommendations and rave reviews of the area. π
It really is a beautiful area, with gorgeous homes. Unfortunately, it’s too far from work for us, but if we worked in SD, buying there would be very tempting.
Thanks for sharing your perspectives on the different areas in SD, BG.
March 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM #682045CA renterParticipantThanks for posting that, BG.
BTW, we took a drive around Mt. Helix yesterday for the first time, based largely on your recommendations and rave reviews of the area. π
It really is a beautiful area, with gorgeous homes. Unfortunately, it’s too far from work for us, but if we worked in SD, buying there would be very tempting.
Thanks for sharing your perspectives on the different areas in SD, BG.
March 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM #682186CA renterParticipantThanks for posting that, BG.
BTW, we took a drive around Mt. Helix yesterday for the first time, based largely on your recommendations and rave reviews of the area. π
It really is a beautiful area, with gorgeous homes. Unfortunately, it’s too far from work for us, but if we worked in SD, buying there would be very tempting.
Thanks for sharing your perspectives on the different areas in SD, BG.
March 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM #682538CA renterParticipantThanks for posting that, BG.
BTW, we took a drive around Mt. Helix yesterday for the first time, based largely on your recommendations and rave reviews of the area. π
It really is a beautiful area, with gorgeous homes. Unfortunately, it’s too far from work for us, but if we worked in SD, buying there would be very tempting.
Thanks for sharing your perspectives on the different areas in SD, BG.
March 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM #681469enron_by_the_seaParticipantDunno about Oil but copper may be rising because of some “creative financing” needs in China, if this link is to be believed.
March 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM #681523enron_by_the_seaParticipantDunno about Oil but copper may be rising because of some “creative financing” needs in China, if this link is to be believed.
March 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM #682142enron_by_the_seaParticipantDunno about Oil but copper may be rising because of some “creative financing” needs in China, if this link is to be believed.
March 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM #682282enron_by_the_seaParticipantDunno about Oil but copper may be rising because of some “creative financing” needs in China, if this link is to be believed.
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