Idiot SUV owners have trouble selling

[SDEngineer]

Even with stability control, a SUV is inherently more prone to stability issues like rollovers – it’s a simple consequence of having a much higher center of gravity, and there’s nothing short of repealing the laws of physics that can correct that. They may have improved their handling, but the average SUV still is incapable of emergency lane changes and avoidance maneuvers with anything like the agility of a smaller vehicle. Inertia sees to that.

Another issue is that, being heavier, they have longer stopping distances than smaller vehicles (generally about 20-25% longer stopping distances) – pesky inertia again.

And as for the safety issue – well, yes, in a normal crash, they are going to be safer on average because they are often substantially larger than the vehicles they hit or are hit by. Fewer SUVs on the road and that advantage disappears. With modern manufacturing and design, smaller cars can be just as safe in collisions with similarly weighted vehicles. By the exact same logic, btw, SUVs are inherently MORE hazardous to be around if you are in a smaller vehicle.

Oh, and equalizer? You’d be surprised how many engineers and scientists are liberals – and we don’t drive Yugos.

[Coronita]

Yes yes, and the problem with most SUV/CUV drivers is that frankly most people still drive them like cars. If it were up to me, I would pass a law tha makes SUV's have a different class of licenses, because the vehicles are clearly heavier than sedans.

But like someone says, there are two classes of SUV's now. One is based on car platforms that generally sit lower with a lower center of gravity.

 

Anyway, at least my wife knows better than do 85+ in an CUV. And frankly, it's to protect against the idiot hummer drivers that do 85 tailgating you.

 

 

Some interesting tidbits. Some larger sedans are pretty porky and weigh almost similar to SUVs. BMW 7 series, Mercedes S class, and even Audi A8's with aluminum frame weighs pretty porky.

BMW 750il 4486lbs curb weight

Audi A8 4399  curb weight (aluminum frame/body)

Mercedes S 4390 

Acura MDX 4451  curb weight

 

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—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Yes yes, and the problem with most SUV/CUV drivers is that frankly most people still drive them like cars. If it were up to me, I would pass a law tha makes SUV's have a different class of licenses, because the vehicles are clearly heavier than sedans.

But like someone says, there are two classes of SUV's now. One is based on car platforms that generally sit lower with a lower center of gravity.

 

Anyway, at least my wife knows better than do 85+ in an CUV. And frankly, it's to protect against the idiot hummer drivers that do 85 tailgating you.

 

 

Some interesting tidbits. Some larger sedans are pretty porky and weigh almost similar to SUVs. BMW 7 series, Mercedes S class, and even Audi A8's with aluminum frame weighs pretty porky.

BMW 750il 4486lbs curb weight

Audi A8 4399  curb weight (aluminum frame/body)

Mercedes S 4390 

Acura MDX 4451  curb weight

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Yes yes, and the problem with most SUV/CUV drivers is that frankly most people still drive them like cars. If it were up to me, I would pass a law tha makes SUV's have a different class of licenses, because the vehicles are clearly heavier than sedans.

But like someone says, there are two classes of SUV's now. One is based on car platforms that generally sit lower with a lower center of gravity.

 

Anyway, at least my wife knows better than do 85+ in an CUV. And frankly, it's to protect against the idiot hummer drivers that do 85 tailgating you.

 

 

Some interesting tidbits. Some larger sedans are pretty porky and weigh almost similar to SUVs. BMW 7 series, Mercedes S class, and even Audi A8's with aluminum frame weighs pretty porky.

BMW 750il 4486lbs curb weight

Audi A8 4399  curb weight (aluminum frame/body)

Mercedes S 4390 

Acura MDX 4451  curb weight

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Yes yes, and the problem with most SUV/CUV drivers is that frankly most people still drive them like cars. If it were up to me, I would pass a law tha makes SUV's have a different class of licenses, because the vehicles are clearly heavier than sedans.

But like someone says, there are two classes of SUV's now. One is based on car platforms that generally sit lower with a lower center of gravity.

 

Anyway, at least my wife knows better than do 85+ in an CUV. And frankly, it's to protect against the idiot hummer drivers that do 85 tailgating you.

 

 

Some interesting tidbits. Some larger sedans are pretty porky and weigh almost similar to SUVs. BMW 7 series, Mercedes S class, and even Audi A8's with aluminum frame weighs pretty porky.

BMW 750il 4486lbs curb weight

Audi A8 4399  curb weight (aluminum frame/body)

Mercedes S 4390 

Acura MDX 4451  curb weight

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Yes yes, and the problem with most SUV/CUV drivers is that frankly most people still drive them like cars. If it were up to me, I would pass a law tha makes SUV's have a different class of licenses, because the vehicles are clearly heavier than sedans.

But like someone says, there are two classes of SUV's now. One is based on car platforms that generally sit lower with a lower center of gravity.

 

Anyway, at least my wife knows better than do 85+ in an CUV. And frankly, it's to protect against the idiot hummer drivers that do 85 tailgating you.

 

 

Some interesting tidbits. Some larger sedans are pretty porky and weigh almost similar to SUVs. BMW 7 series, Mercedes S class, and even Audi A8's with aluminum frame weighs pretty porky.

BMW 750il 4486lbs curb weight

Audi A8 4399  curb weight (aluminum frame/body)

Mercedes S 4390 

Acura MDX 4451  curb weight

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[SDEngineer]

FLU –

True, a lot of the larger sedans get up around small SUV weight ranges. But those are pretty much the largest and heaviest cars compared against smaller SUVs.

Please note though, I’m not advocating everyone move to a 2000lb hybrid car – just pointing out flaws in the argument that “SUVs are safer”. I’d hardly be believable, since I drive an Infiniti G37 which usually gets around 19mpg.

[SDEngineer]

FLU –

True, a lot of the larger sedans get up around small SUV weight ranges. But those are pretty much the largest and heaviest cars compared against smaller SUVs.

Please note though, I’m not advocating everyone move to a 2000lb hybrid car – just pointing out flaws in the argument that “SUVs are safer”. I’d hardly be believable, since I drive an Infiniti G37 which usually gets around 19mpg.

[SDEngineer]

FLU –

True, a lot of the larger sedans get up around small SUV weight ranges. But those are pretty much the largest and heaviest cars compared against smaller SUVs.

Please note though, I’m not advocating everyone move to a 2000lb hybrid car – just pointing out flaws in the argument that “SUVs are safer”. I’d hardly be believable, since I drive an Infiniti G37 which usually gets around 19mpg.

[SDEngineer]

FLU –

True, a lot of the larger sedans get up around small SUV weight ranges. But those are pretty much the largest and heaviest cars compared against smaller SUVs.

Please note though, I’m not advocating everyone move to a 2000lb hybrid car – just pointing out flaws in the argument that “SUVs are safer”. I’d hardly be believable, since I drive an Infiniti G37 which usually gets around 19mpg.

[SDEngineer]

FLU –

True, a lot of the larger sedans get up around small SUV weight ranges. But those are pretty much the largest and heaviest cars compared against smaller SUVs.

Please note though, I’m not advocating everyone move to a 2000lb hybrid car – just pointing out flaws in the argument that “SUVs are safer”. I’d hardly be believable, since I drive an Infiniti G37 which usually gets around 19mpg.

[David J]

I used to own a motorcycle (a nice little Ninja 500) that I used for commuting. I used it for a year and half in Monterey, and it was great. Then I moved to Los Angeles, and after a few months decided to sell the motorcycle because on a daily basis people were trying to kill me, some it seemed, even purposefully.

Some days I consider buying a motorcycle again, but I’m not sure if I would feel any safer here in San Diego.

I’ve been driving a 4 cylinder Camry also for the last 5 years and I feel it is a good quality all-around car.

[David J]

I used to own a motorcycle (a nice little Ninja 500) that I used for commuting. I used it for a year and half in Monterey, and it was great. Then I moved to Los Angeles, and after a few months decided to sell the motorcycle because on a daily basis people were trying to kill me, some it seemed, even purposefully.

Some days I consider buying a motorcycle again, but I’m not sure if I would feel any safer here in San Diego.

I’ve been driving a 4 cylinder Camry also for the last 5 years and I feel it is a good quality all-around car.

[David J]

I used to own a motorcycle (a nice little Ninja 500) that I used for commuting. I used it for a year and half in Monterey, and it was great. Then I moved to Los Angeles, and after a few months decided to sell the motorcycle because on a daily basis people were trying to kill me, some it seemed, even purposefully.

Some days I consider buying a motorcycle again, but I’m not sure if I would feel any safer here in San Diego.

I’ve been driving a 4 cylinder Camry also for the last 5 years and I feel it is a good quality all-around car.

[David J]

I used to own a motorcycle (a nice little Ninja 500) that I used for commuting. I used it for a year and half in Monterey, and it was great. Then I moved to Los Angeles, and after a few months decided to sell the motorcycle because on a daily basis people were trying to kill me, some it seemed, even purposefully.

Some days I consider buying a motorcycle again, but I’m not sure if I would feel any safer here in San Diego.

I’ve been driving a 4 cylinder Camry also for the last 5 years and I feel it is a good quality all-around car.

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