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February 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM #342736February 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM #342195
Arraya
ParticipantCasca-The mechanisms for dictatorship have been slowly been put in place since Clinton was in office and sped up with Bushco. Almost as if they knew the collapse was coming. Ah, the coincidences. History is pretty clear how these things turn out.
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/125192/it’s_not_going_to_be_ok/
The daily bleeding of thousands of jobs will soon turn our economic crisis into a political crisis. The street protests, strikes and riots that have rattled France, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Iceland will descend on us. It is only a matter of time. And not much time. When things start to go sour, when Barack Obama is exposed as a mortal waving a sword at a tidal wave, the United States could plunge into a long period of precarious social instability.At no period in American history has our democracy been in such peril or has the possibility of totalitarianism been as real. Our way of life is over. Our profligate consumption is finished. Our children will never have the standard of living we had. And poverty and despair will sweep across the landscape like a plague. This is the bleak future. There is nothing President Obama can do to stop it. It has been decades in the making. It cannot be undone with a trillion or two trillion dollars in bailout money. Our empire is dying. Our economy has collapsed.
How will we cope with our decline? Will we cling to the absurd dreams of a superpower and a glorious tomorrow or will we responsibly face our stark new limitations? Will we heed those who are sober and rational, those who speak of a new simplicity and humility, or will we follow the demagogues and charlatans who rise up out of the slime in moments of crisis to offer fantastic visions? Will we radically transform our system to one that protects the ordinary citizen and fosters the common good, that defies the corporate state, or will we employ the brutality and technology of our internal security and surveillance apparatus to crush all dissent? We won’t have to wait long to find out.
February 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM #342516Arraya
ParticipantCasca-The mechanisms for dictatorship have been slowly been put in place since Clinton was in office and sped up with Bushco. Almost as if they knew the collapse was coming. Ah, the coincidences. History is pretty clear how these things turn out.
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/125192/it’s_not_going_to_be_ok/
The daily bleeding of thousands of jobs will soon turn our economic crisis into a political crisis. The street protests, strikes and riots that have rattled France, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Iceland will descend on us. It is only a matter of time. And not much time. When things start to go sour, when Barack Obama is exposed as a mortal waving a sword at a tidal wave, the United States could plunge into a long period of precarious social instability.At no period in American history has our democracy been in such peril or has the possibility of totalitarianism been as real. Our way of life is over. Our profligate consumption is finished. Our children will never have the standard of living we had. And poverty and despair will sweep across the landscape like a plague. This is the bleak future. There is nothing President Obama can do to stop it. It has been decades in the making. It cannot be undone with a trillion or two trillion dollars in bailout money. Our empire is dying. Our economy has collapsed.
How will we cope with our decline? Will we cling to the absurd dreams of a superpower and a glorious tomorrow or will we responsibly face our stark new limitations? Will we heed those who are sober and rational, those who speak of a new simplicity and humility, or will we follow the demagogues and charlatans who rise up out of the slime in moments of crisis to offer fantastic visions? Will we radically transform our system to one that protects the ordinary citizen and fosters the common good, that defies the corporate state, or will we employ the brutality and technology of our internal security and surveillance apparatus to crush all dissent? We won’t have to wait long to find out.
February 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM #342623Arraya
ParticipantCasca-The mechanisms for dictatorship have been slowly been put in place since Clinton was in office and sped up with Bushco. Almost as if they knew the collapse was coming. Ah, the coincidences. History is pretty clear how these things turn out.
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/125192/it’s_not_going_to_be_ok/
The daily bleeding of thousands of jobs will soon turn our economic crisis into a political crisis. The street protests, strikes and riots that have rattled France, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Iceland will descend on us. It is only a matter of time. And not much time. When things start to go sour, when Barack Obama is exposed as a mortal waving a sword at a tidal wave, the United States could plunge into a long period of precarious social instability.At no period in American history has our democracy been in such peril or has the possibility of totalitarianism been as real. Our way of life is over. Our profligate consumption is finished. Our children will never have the standard of living we had. And poverty and despair will sweep across the landscape like a plague. This is the bleak future. There is nothing President Obama can do to stop it. It has been decades in the making. It cannot be undone with a trillion or two trillion dollars in bailout money. Our empire is dying. Our economy has collapsed.
How will we cope with our decline? Will we cling to the absurd dreams of a superpower and a glorious tomorrow or will we responsibly face our stark new limitations? Will we heed those who are sober and rational, those who speak of a new simplicity and humility, or will we follow the demagogues and charlatans who rise up out of the slime in moments of crisis to offer fantastic visions? Will we radically transform our system to one that protects the ordinary citizen and fosters the common good, that defies the corporate state, or will we employ the brutality and technology of our internal security and surveillance apparatus to crush all dissent? We won’t have to wait long to find out.
February 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM #342650Arraya
ParticipantCasca-The mechanisms for dictatorship have been slowly been put in place since Clinton was in office and sped up with Bushco. Almost as if they knew the collapse was coming. Ah, the coincidences. History is pretty clear how these things turn out.
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/125192/it’s_not_going_to_be_ok/
The daily bleeding of thousands of jobs will soon turn our economic crisis into a political crisis. The street protests, strikes and riots that have rattled France, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Iceland will descend on us. It is only a matter of time. And not much time. When things start to go sour, when Barack Obama is exposed as a mortal waving a sword at a tidal wave, the United States could plunge into a long period of precarious social instability.At no period in American history has our democracy been in such peril or has the possibility of totalitarianism been as real. Our way of life is over. Our profligate consumption is finished. Our children will never have the standard of living we had. And poverty and despair will sweep across the landscape like a plague. This is the bleak future. There is nothing President Obama can do to stop it. It has been decades in the making. It cannot be undone with a trillion or two trillion dollars in bailout money. Our empire is dying. Our economy has collapsed.
How will we cope with our decline? Will we cling to the absurd dreams of a superpower and a glorious tomorrow or will we responsibly face our stark new limitations? Will we heed those who are sober and rational, those who speak of a new simplicity and humility, or will we follow the demagogues and charlatans who rise up out of the slime in moments of crisis to offer fantastic visions? Will we radically transform our system to one that protects the ordinary citizen and fosters the common good, that defies the corporate state, or will we employ the brutality and technology of our internal security and surveillance apparatus to crush all dissent? We won’t have to wait long to find out.
February 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM #342746Arraya
ParticipantCasca-The mechanisms for dictatorship have been slowly been put in place since Clinton was in office and sped up with Bushco. Almost as if they knew the collapse was coming. Ah, the coincidences. History is pretty clear how these things turn out.
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/125192/it’s_not_going_to_be_ok/
The daily bleeding of thousands of jobs will soon turn our economic crisis into a political crisis. The street protests, strikes and riots that have rattled France, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Iceland will descend on us. It is only a matter of time. And not much time. When things start to go sour, when Barack Obama is exposed as a mortal waving a sword at a tidal wave, the United States could plunge into a long period of precarious social instability.At no period in American history has our democracy been in such peril or has the possibility of totalitarianism been as real. Our way of life is over. Our profligate consumption is finished. Our children will never have the standard of living we had. And poverty and despair will sweep across the landscape like a plague. This is the bleak future. There is nothing President Obama can do to stop it. It has been decades in the making. It cannot be undone with a trillion or two trillion dollars in bailout money. Our empire is dying. Our economy has collapsed.
How will we cope with our decline? Will we cling to the absurd dreams of a superpower and a glorious tomorrow or will we responsibly face our stark new limitations? Will we heed those who are sober and rational, those who speak of a new simplicity and humility, or will we follow the demagogues and charlatans who rise up out of the slime in moments of crisis to offer fantastic visions? Will we radically transform our system to one that protects the ordinary citizen and fosters the common good, that defies the corporate state, or will we employ the brutality and technology of our internal security and surveillance apparatus to crush all dissent? We won’t have to wait long to find out.
February 6, 2009 at 7:42 PM #342285socrattt
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]My house in a nice part of Carlsbad was $150/sq ft new in 1999 without many upgrades or landscaping. Good luck on the $100/ sq ft wishing.[/quote]
My thoughts are between Orange, Riverside, Los Angeles and San Diego Counties we will begin to see a much greater drop off as I believe credit will tighten once again, supply will continue to increase and unemployment will hit unfathomable percentages. It is a matter of time sdr. Don’t get caught thinking it won’t happen to you because it will.February 6, 2009 at 7:42 PM #342607socrattt
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]My house in a nice part of Carlsbad was $150/sq ft new in 1999 without many upgrades or landscaping. Good luck on the $100/ sq ft wishing.[/quote]
My thoughts are between Orange, Riverside, Los Angeles and San Diego Counties we will begin to see a much greater drop off as I believe credit will tighten once again, supply will continue to increase and unemployment will hit unfathomable percentages. It is a matter of time sdr. Don’t get caught thinking it won’t happen to you because it will.February 6, 2009 at 7:42 PM #342713socrattt
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]My house in a nice part of Carlsbad was $150/sq ft new in 1999 without many upgrades or landscaping. Good luck on the $100/ sq ft wishing.[/quote]
My thoughts are between Orange, Riverside, Los Angeles and San Diego Counties we will begin to see a much greater drop off as I believe credit will tighten once again, supply will continue to increase and unemployment will hit unfathomable percentages. It is a matter of time sdr. Don’t get caught thinking it won’t happen to you because it will.February 6, 2009 at 7:42 PM #342740socrattt
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]My house in a nice part of Carlsbad was $150/sq ft new in 1999 without many upgrades or landscaping. Good luck on the $100/ sq ft wishing.[/quote]
My thoughts are between Orange, Riverside, Los Angeles and San Diego Counties we will begin to see a much greater drop off as I believe credit will tighten once again, supply will continue to increase and unemployment will hit unfathomable percentages. It is a matter of time sdr. Don’t get caught thinking it won’t happen to you because it will.February 6, 2009 at 7:42 PM #342838socrattt
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]My house in a nice part of Carlsbad was $150/sq ft new in 1999 without many upgrades or landscaping. Good luck on the $100/ sq ft wishing.[/quote]
My thoughts are between Orange, Riverside, Los Angeles and San Diego Counties we will begin to see a much greater drop off as I believe credit will tighten once again, supply will continue to increase and unemployment will hit unfathomable percentages. It is a matter of time sdr. Don’t get caught thinking it won’t happen to you because it will.February 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM #342355sdrealtor
Participantsocratt,
I will go out on a limb and say its impossible. Though I dont think its a thin limb. If my house goes to 100/ sq ft, then starter homes in Mira Mesa would have to be free. Same goes for Clairemont and PQ. Dont think thats gonna happen.Seriously, it would mean that my house was going for about 70 times rent. Owning my 5BR house would be cheaper than renting a 2BR apartment in UTC. Get real.
February 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM #342677sdrealtor
Participantsocratt,
I will go out on a limb and say its impossible. Though I dont think its a thin limb. If my house goes to 100/ sq ft, then starter homes in Mira Mesa would have to be free. Same goes for Clairemont and PQ. Dont think thats gonna happen.Seriously, it would mean that my house was going for about 70 times rent. Owning my 5BR house would be cheaper than renting a 2BR apartment in UTC. Get real.
February 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM #342783sdrealtor
Participantsocratt,
I will go out on a limb and say its impossible. Though I dont think its a thin limb. If my house goes to 100/ sq ft, then starter homes in Mira Mesa would have to be free. Same goes for Clairemont and PQ. Dont think thats gonna happen.Seriously, it would mean that my house was going for about 70 times rent. Owning my 5BR house would be cheaper than renting a 2BR apartment in UTC. Get real.
February 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM #342811sdrealtor
Participantsocratt,
I will go out on a limb and say its impossible. Though I dont think its a thin limb. If my house goes to 100/ sq ft, then starter homes in Mira Mesa would have to be free. Same goes for Clairemont and PQ. Dont think thats gonna happen.Seriously, it would mean that my house was going for about 70 times rent. Owning my 5BR house would be cheaper than renting a 2BR apartment in UTC. Get real.
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