I find it interesting!!

[socrattt]

[quote=Kilohana][quote=Casca]Ah, the blithering of liberals, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.[/quote]

Why waste time criticizing when it’s much more helpful to contribute?

I assume you have ideas other than “more tax cuts for the wealthy” and “fuck it, bring on the depression….”

The reality is Congress can’t do nothing. They have to at least try do something to prevent crisis and chaos. When you see job loss numbers as we have been seeing, you can’t just pretend those unemployed folks are going to sit home happily and wait for the recovery in 3-5 years – or more.

I realize any intervention is a form of socialism, but I don’t think you realize the consequences of letting them eat cake.

Yes, I’m sure you have your gun. BFD.[/quote]

Kilo, while I agree to some extent, I do believe too much intervention will ultimately be a bad thing. If the RE markets crashed and we allowed some of the not so important banks to fail, I believe we would be in a much better position of being able to pick up the pieces and move on.

Here we are a good 18 months since we really started feeling the impact of the foreclosure market and some parts of SD are still highly inflated IMHO. I was hoping places like Carlsbad, SEH and 4Close Ranch would see homes in the $100/sqft range. I believe that is where it should be.

It is what it is. We the people don’t choose whether or not we want a bailout, so all we can do is voice our opinion on the garbage that these stimulus plans are filled with! Socialism will of course dominate for the next few years, unfortunately I see an option of allowing the powers at be to fail as one of our best options.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=socrattt]

I was hoping places like Carlsbad, SEH and 4Close Ranch would see homes in the $100/sqft range. I believe that is where it should be.

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Duude I hope so as well, I am so buying at that level…

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=socrattt]

I was hoping places like Carlsbad, SEH and 4Close Ranch would see homes in the $100/sqft range. I believe that is where it should be.

[/quote]

Duude I hope so as well, I am so buying at that level…

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=socrattt]

I was hoping places like Carlsbad, SEH and 4Close Ranch would see homes in the $100/sqft range. I believe that is where it should be.

[/quote]

Duude I hope so as well, I am so buying at that level…

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=socrattt]

I was hoping places like Carlsbad, SEH and 4Close Ranch would see homes in the $100/sqft range. I believe that is where it should be.

[/quote]

Duude I hope so as well, I am so buying at that level…

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=socrattt]

I was hoping places like Carlsbad, SEH and 4Close Ranch would see homes in the $100/sqft range. I believe that is where it should be.

[/quote]

Duude I hope so as well, I am so buying at that level…

[cr]

Here’s some fodder for overthrowing our gov’t:

– The current salary (2009) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.
– Senate Leadership
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400
– House Leadership
Speaker of the House – $223,500
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400

Sources:
about.comsenate.gov

If that doesn’t piss you off then this will:
Projected January 2009 Member Pay Increase of 2.8%
Under the formula established in the Ethics Reform Act, Members may receive a pay adjustment in January 2009 of 2.8%. This adjustment — if not revised by Congress or constrained by provisions of the Ethics Reform Act related to the pay increase for General Schedule employees — would increase salaries for Members of Congress to $174,000.

It’s no longer projected, they got it.

I wonder if they’re actually working 5 days a week yet.

[cr]

Here’s some fodder for overthrowing our gov’t:

– The current salary (2009) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.
– Senate Leadership
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400
– House Leadership
Speaker of the House – $223,500
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400

Sources:
about.comsenate.gov

If that doesn’t piss you off then this will:
Projected January 2009 Member Pay Increase of 2.8%
Under the formula established in the Ethics Reform Act, Members may receive a pay adjustment in January 2009 of 2.8%. This adjustment — if not revised by Congress or constrained by provisions of the Ethics Reform Act related to the pay increase for General Schedule employees — would increase salaries for Members of Congress to $174,000.

It’s no longer projected, they got it.

I wonder if they’re actually working 5 days a week yet.

[cr]

Here’s some fodder for overthrowing our gov’t:

– The current salary (2009) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.
– Senate Leadership
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400
– House Leadership
Speaker of the House – $223,500
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400

Sources:
about.comsenate.gov

If that doesn’t piss you off then this will:
Projected January 2009 Member Pay Increase of 2.8%
Under the formula established in the Ethics Reform Act, Members may receive a pay adjustment in January 2009 of 2.8%. This adjustment — if not revised by Congress or constrained by provisions of the Ethics Reform Act related to the pay increase for General Schedule employees — would increase salaries for Members of Congress to $174,000.

It’s no longer projected, they got it.

I wonder if they’re actually working 5 days a week yet.

[cr]

Here’s some fodder for overthrowing our gov’t:

– The current salary (2009) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.
– Senate Leadership
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400
– House Leadership
Speaker of the House – $223,500
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400

Sources:
about.comsenate.gov

If that doesn’t piss you off then this will:
Projected January 2009 Member Pay Increase of 2.8%
Under the formula established in the Ethics Reform Act, Members may receive a pay adjustment in January 2009 of 2.8%. This adjustment — if not revised by Congress or constrained by provisions of the Ethics Reform Act related to the pay increase for General Schedule employees — would increase salaries for Members of Congress to $174,000.

It’s no longer projected, they got it.

I wonder if they’re actually working 5 days a week yet.

[cr]

Here’s some fodder for overthrowing our gov’t:

– The current salary (2009) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.
– Senate Leadership
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400
– House Leadership
Speaker of the House – $223,500
Majority Leader – $193,400
Minority Leader – $193,400

Sources:
about.comsenate.gov

If that doesn’t piss you off then this will:
Projected January 2009 Member Pay Increase of 2.8%
Under the formula established in the Ethics Reform Act, Members may receive a pay adjustment in January 2009 of 2.8%. This adjustment — if not revised by Congress or constrained by provisions of the Ethics Reform Act related to the pay increase for General Schedule employees — would increase salaries for Members of Congress to $174,000.

It’s no longer projected, they got it.

I wonder if they’re actually working 5 days a week yet.

[socrattt]

We are punishing a number of the top CEO’s needing money for the bailout, which I completely agree with. Keeping their pay capped at $500K is a great move and as I mentioned above should’ve happened in the initial stimulus plan.

Now shouldn’t we punish those in the House and the Senate as much as we are the CEO’s? I think so!! I believe those in the House and Senate were just as responsible for missing the bus, if not more responsible for this current economic collapse.

In fact I think these guys should know what it’s like to be broke, so they end up voting for the right reasons rather than something that lines their wallets.

Going back to an old post I wrote, I believe the current amount of unemployed Americans is much closer to 15% of the employable population. Look who pays the ultimate price! The citizen who spends his entire life working 9 to 5 with a company that has given him stock options in the hopes that one day he can retire. Joe citizen doesn’t know anything else, in fact he never really cared about the unemployment rate, the trade deficit or the debt his country was going into. He only knew what he knew best and that was how to work hard and make a paycheck. He just assumed his government was looking after him. I feel awful for these people that our government has let down. There are millions upon millions of blue collar workers in this country that are really going to feel the pain!

[socrattt]

We are punishing a number of the top CEO’s needing money for the bailout, which I completely agree with. Keeping their pay capped at $500K is a great move and as I mentioned above should’ve happened in the initial stimulus plan.

Now shouldn’t we punish those in the House and the Senate as much as we are the CEO’s? I think so!! I believe those in the House and Senate were just as responsible for missing the bus, if not more responsible for this current economic collapse.

In fact I think these guys should know what it’s like to be broke, so they end up voting for the right reasons rather than something that lines their wallets.

Going back to an old post I wrote, I believe the current amount of unemployed Americans is much closer to 15% of the employable population. Look who pays the ultimate price! The citizen who spends his entire life working 9 to 5 with a company that has given him stock options in the hopes that one day he can retire. Joe citizen doesn’t know anything else, in fact he never really cared about the unemployment rate, the trade deficit or the debt his country was going into. He only knew what he knew best and that was how to work hard and make a paycheck. He just assumed his government was looking after him. I feel awful for these people that our government has let down. There are millions upon millions of blue collar workers in this country that are really going to feel the pain!

[socrattt]

We are punishing a number of the top CEO’s needing money for the bailout, which I completely agree with. Keeping their pay capped at $500K is a great move and as I mentioned above should’ve happened in the initial stimulus plan.

Now shouldn’t we punish those in the House and the Senate as much as we are the CEO’s? I think so!! I believe those in the House and Senate were just as responsible for missing the bus, if not more responsible for this current economic collapse.

In fact I think these guys should know what it’s like to be broke, so they end up voting for the right reasons rather than something that lines their wallets.

Going back to an old post I wrote, I believe the current amount of unemployed Americans is much closer to 15% of the employable population. Look who pays the ultimate price! The citizen who spends his entire life working 9 to 5 with a company that has given him stock options in the hopes that one day he can retire. Joe citizen doesn’t know anything else, in fact he never really cared about the unemployment rate, the trade deficit or the debt his country was going into. He only knew what he knew best and that was how to work hard and make a paycheck. He just assumed his government was looking after him. I feel awful for these people that our government has let down. There are millions upon millions of blue collar workers in this country that are really going to feel the pain!

[socrattt]

We are punishing a number of the top CEO’s needing money for the bailout, which I completely agree with. Keeping their pay capped at $500K is a great move and as I mentioned above should’ve happened in the initial stimulus plan.

Now shouldn’t we punish those in the House and the Senate as much as we are the CEO’s? I think so!! I believe those in the House and Senate were just as responsible for missing the bus, if not more responsible for this current economic collapse.

In fact I think these guys should know what it’s like to be broke, so they end up voting for the right reasons rather than something that lines their wallets.

Going back to an old post I wrote, I believe the current amount of unemployed Americans is much closer to 15% of the employable population. Look who pays the ultimate price! The citizen who spends his entire life working 9 to 5 with a company that has given him stock options in the hopes that one day he can retire. Joe citizen doesn’t know anything else, in fact he never really cared about the unemployment rate, the trade deficit or the debt his country was going into. He only knew what he knew best and that was how to work hard and make a paycheck. He just assumed his government was looking after him. I feel awful for these people that our government has let down. There are millions upon millions of blue collar workers in this country that are really going to feel the pain!

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