huge topic:Americans keep getting fatter

[ocrenter]

[quote=CBad]I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. [/quote]

one interesting group to look at are former athletes, professional or college/high school or former military.

these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.

[quote=CBad]
Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain.
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I agree, once the metabolism resets, very difficult to lose the weight gained from prior dietary indiscretions.

One other issue is people always preceive themselves to be normal when they are actually overweight. slightly plum really means obese. and need to drop a few lbs often means the need to drop 100.

body mass index remains the gold standard. the key to remember is 10-15 lbs over normal is not that bad at all. so if you say you are overweight by 10-15 lbs via the body mass index, I completely agree that is perfectly fine and you probably are even healthier than a person at ideal body weight.

THE PROBLEM IS MOST PEOPLE THAT CLAIM “OVERWEIGHT STATUS” IS REALLY MORBIDLY OBESE ON THE BMI SCALE.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.
[/quote]

CBad, and ocrenter, I absolutely agree with both of you.

I have a buddy from college who’s a close friend like a brother; so I can frankly tell him he’s fat.

He’s a military officer on reserve but not yet retired. He gained weight little by little over the years. But he’s healthy and active. His goal for years has been to get back to the weight he was at boot camp, but he can’t do it (but I bet he could if he were locked up and only fed a controlled diet).

He’s a jovial guy who loves to drink beer, celebrate and have a good time. Me, I eat and drink vicariously through other people, haha…

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.
[/quote]

CBad, and ocrenter, I absolutely agree with both of you.

I have a buddy from college who’s a close friend like a brother; so I can frankly tell him he’s fat.

He’s a military officer on reserve but not yet retired. He gained weight little by little over the years. But he’s healthy and active. His goal for years has been to get back to the weight he was at boot camp, but he can’t do it (but I bet he could if he were locked up and only fed a controlled diet).

He’s a jovial guy who loves to drink beer, celebrate and have a good time. Me, I eat and drink vicariously through other people, haha…

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.
[/quote]

CBad, and ocrenter, I absolutely agree with both of you.

I have a buddy from college who’s a close friend like a brother; so I can frankly tell him he’s fat.

He’s a military officer on reserve but not yet retired. He gained weight little by little over the years. But he’s healthy and active. His goal for years has been to get back to the weight he was at boot camp, but he can’t do it (but I bet he could if he were locked up and only fed a controlled diet).

He’s a jovial guy who loves to drink beer, celebrate and have a good time. Me, I eat and drink vicariously through other people, haha…

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.
[/quote]

CBad, and ocrenter, I absolutely agree with both of you.

I have a buddy from college who’s a close friend like a brother; so I can frankly tell him he’s fat.

He’s a military officer on reserve but not yet retired. He gained weight little by little over the years. But he’s healthy and active. His goal for years has been to get back to the weight he was at boot camp, but he can’t do it (but I bet he could if he were locked up and only fed a controlled diet).

He’s a jovial guy who loves to drink beer, celebrate and have a good time. Me, I eat and drink vicariously through other people, haha…

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]
these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.
[/quote]

CBad, and ocrenter, I absolutely agree with both of you.

I have a buddy from college who’s a close friend like a brother; so I can frankly tell him he’s fat.

He’s a military officer on reserve but not yet retired. He gained weight little by little over the years. But he’s healthy and active. His goal for years has been to get back to the weight he was at boot camp, but he can’t do it (but I bet he could if he were locked up and only fed a controlled diet).

He’s a jovial guy who loves to drink beer, celebrate and have a good time. Me, I eat and drink vicariously through other people, haha…

[jpinpb]

Losing weight is not easy. Keeping weight off as you get older is a challenge enough. I remember when I was younger I could eat and drink all I want with no care. I was much more active, of course. But I really believe I had a faster metabolism back then.

Even though I’m sure people don’t think I’m fat, when I look at my body compared to 15 years ago, I know I’ve gained weight. Even though I watch what I eat, I know I’m not able to indulge the way I used to when I was younger. I was rail thin when I was younger. I wasn’t anorexic, but if someone looked at me, they probably thought I was. I had so much energy.

Now I have pretty much cut out alcohol. For other health issues, I’ve had to cut out the breads. I am very slowly seeing my weight get back to what it was. It takes time. But I know I also didn’t gain weight overnight. It took years to slowly put it on. A little along the way and you don’t notice, but then one day you’re trying to put on a pair of old jeans and they don’t fit anymore.

It definitely is a process and not fun. I definitely sacrifice every day. But I see some of my g/fs complaining, yet they do not want to do anything basic to help themselves. Alcohol (beer mostly) is empty calories and they won’t give it up no matter what. They won’t even give up whip cream on a coffee drink, much less the calories in a Frappucino.

I think for me personally, I have some major phobias of being sick. I know people who are diabetic and that scares the hell out of me. That fear must motivate me to watch what I eat. Any illness really is a phobia for me. Back in the day, I knew many people who smoked. But the thought of getting lung cancer made me not ever want to smoke.

I guess my phobias kept me from doing anything that could be bad for me. I am adverse to risk and that seems to increase as I get older. And the analogy to real estate must be true, as well.

Edit: I just remembered another thing that surprised me about one of my g/fs. She refuses to cut out mayonnaise on sandwiches. To me, that seemed like something easy to give up.

I think once you get in a habit of not eating certain things, it gets easier.

[jpinpb]

Losing weight is not easy. Keeping weight off as you get older is a challenge enough. I remember when I was younger I could eat and drink all I want with no care. I was much more active, of course. But I really believe I had a faster metabolism back then.

Even though I’m sure people don’t think I’m fat, when I look at my body compared to 15 years ago, I know I’ve gained weight. Even though I watch what I eat, I know I’m not able to indulge the way I used to when I was younger. I was rail thin when I was younger. I wasn’t anorexic, but if someone looked at me, they probably thought I was. I had so much energy.

Now I have pretty much cut out alcohol. For other health issues, I’ve had to cut out the breads. I am very slowly seeing my weight get back to what it was. It takes time. But I know I also didn’t gain weight overnight. It took years to slowly put it on. A little along the way and you don’t notice, but then one day you’re trying to put on a pair of old jeans and they don’t fit anymore.

It definitely is a process and not fun. I definitely sacrifice every day. But I see some of my g/fs complaining, yet they do not want to do anything basic to help themselves. Alcohol (beer mostly) is empty calories and they won’t give it up no matter what. They won’t even give up whip cream on a coffee drink, much less the calories in a Frappucino.

I think for me personally, I have some major phobias of being sick. I know people who are diabetic and that scares the hell out of me. That fear must motivate me to watch what I eat. Any illness really is a phobia for me. Back in the day, I knew many people who smoked. But the thought of getting lung cancer made me not ever want to smoke.

I guess my phobias kept me from doing anything that could be bad for me. I am adverse to risk and that seems to increase as I get older. And the analogy to real estate must be true, as well.

Edit: I just remembered another thing that surprised me about one of my g/fs. She refuses to cut out mayonnaise on sandwiches. To me, that seemed like something easy to give up.

I think once you get in a habit of not eating certain things, it gets easier.

[jpinpb]

Losing weight is not easy. Keeping weight off as you get older is a challenge enough. I remember when I was younger I could eat and drink all I want with no care. I was much more active, of course. But I really believe I had a faster metabolism back then.

Even though I’m sure people don’t think I’m fat, when I look at my body compared to 15 years ago, I know I’ve gained weight. Even though I watch what I eat, I know I’m not able to indulge the way I used to when I was younger. I was rail thin when I was younger. I wasn’t anorexic, but if someone looked at me, they probably thought I was. I had so much energy.

Now I have pretty much cut out alcohol. For other health issues, I’ve had to cut out the breads. I am very slowly seeing my weight get back to what it was. It takes time. But I know I also didn’t gain weight overnight. It took years to slowly put it on. A little along the way and you don’t notice, but then one day you’re trying to put on a pair of old jeans and they don’t fit anymore.

It definitely is a process and not fun. I definitely sacrifice every day. But I see some of my g/fs complaining, yet they do not want to do anything basic to help themselves. Alcohol (beer mostly) is empty calories and they won’t give it up no matter what. They won’t even give up whip cream on a coffee drink, much less the calories in a Frappucino.

I think for me personally, I have some major phobias of being sick. I know people who are diabetic and that scares the hell out of me. That fear must motivate me to watch what I eat. Any illness really is a phobia for me. Back in the day, I knew many people who smoked. But the thought of getting lung cancer made me not ever want to smoke.

I guess my phobias kept me from doing anything that could be bad for me. I am adverse to risk and that seems to increase as I get older. And the analogy to real estate must be true, as well.

Edit: I just remembered another thing that surprised me about one of my g/fs. She refuses to cut out mayonnaise on sandwiches. To me, that seemed like something easy to give up.

I think once you get in a habit of not eating certain things, it gets easier.

[jpinpb]

Losing weight is not easy. Keeping weight off as you get older is a challenge enough. I remember when I was younger I could eat and drink all I want with no care. I was much more active, of course. But I really believe I had a faster metabolism back then.

Even though I’m sure people don’t think I’m fat, when I look at my body compared to 15 years ago, I know I’ve gained weight. Even though I watch what I eat, I know I’m not able to indulge the way I used to when I was younger. I was rail thin when I was younger. I wasn’t anorexic, but if someone looked at me, they probably thought I was. I had so much energy.

Now I have pretty much cut out alcohol. For other health issues, I’ve had to cut out the breads. I am very slowly seeing my weight get back to what it was. It takes time. But I know I also didn’t gain weight overnight. It took years to slowly put it on. A little along the way and you don’t notice, but then one day you’re trying to put on a pair of old jeans and they don’t fit anymore.

It definitely is a process and not fun. I definitely sacrifice every day. But I see some of my g/fs complaining, yet they do not want to do anything basic to help themselves. Alcohol (beer mostly) is empty calories and they won’t give it up no matter what. They won’t even give up whip cream on a coffee drink, much less the calories in a Frappucino.

I think for me personally, I have some major phobias of being sick. I know people who are diabetic and that scares the hell out of me. That fear must motivate me to watch what I eat. Any illness really is a phobia for me. Back in the day, I knew many people who smoked. But the thought of getting lung cancer made me not ever want to smoke.

I guess my phobias kept me from doing anything that could be bad for me. I am adverse to risk and that seems to increase as I get older. And the analogy to real estate must be true, as well.

Edit: I just remembered another thing that surprised me about one of my g/fs. She refuses to cut out mayonnaise on sandwiches. To me, that seemed like something easy to give up.

I think once you get in a habit of not eating certain things, it gets easier.

[jpinpb]

Losing weight is not easy. Keeping weight off as you get older is a challenge enough. I remember when I was younger I could eat and drink all I want with no care. I was much more active, of course. But I really believe I had a faster metabolism back then.

Even though I’m sure people don’t think I’m fat, when I look at my body compared to 15 years ago, I know I’ve gained weight. Even though I watch what I eat, I know I’m not able to indulge the way I used to when I was younger. I was rail thin when I was younger. I wasn’t anorexic, but if someone looked at me, they probably thought I was. I had so much energy.

Now I have pretty much cut out alcohol. For other health issues, I’ve had to cut out the breads. I am very slowly seeing my weight get back to what it was. It takes time. But I know I also didn’t gain weight overnight. It took years to slowly put it on. A little along the way and you don’t notice, but then one day you’re trying to put on a pair of old jeans and they don’t fit anymore.

It definitely is a process and not fun. I definitely sacrifice every day. But I see some of my g/fs complaining, yet they do not want to do anything basic to help themselves. Alcohol (beer mostly) is empty calories and they won’t give it up no matter what. They won’t even give up whip cream on a coffee drink, much less the calories in a Frappucino.

I think for me personally, I have some major phobias of being sick. I know people who are diabetic and that scares the hell out of me. That fear must motivate me to watch what I eat. Any illness really is a phobia for me. Back in the day, I knew many people who smoked. But the thought of getting lung cancer made me not ever want to smoke.

I guess my phobias kept me from doing anything that could be bad for me. I am adverse to risk and that seems to increase as I get older. And the analogy to real estate must be true, as well.

Edit: I just remembered another thing that surprised me about one of my g/fs. She refuses to cut out mayonnaise on sandwiches. To me, that seemed like something easy to give up.

I think once you get in a habit of not eating certain things, it gets easier.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

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