huge topic:Americans keep getting fatter

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]
There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy.
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That’s true.

But as a general rule (but not always) thin is better. It depends on the percent body fat you carry around.

[quote=CA renter]
It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently.
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Yes, people’s lifestyles and body types are different.

That’s why they need to adjust diet according to their body types and/or change their lifestyles to fit their body types.

If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.

The person who doesn’t metabolize the calories should not eat the same food. He should eat plain boiled beans instead of mashed potatoes with butter and gravy.

If you don’t believe me, try it on your dog/pet. You can exactly control what your dog eats; and you can exercise your dog based on his needs.

My German Shepherd and my Golden Retriever both lived to around 18 years of age because I never allowed them to get overweight.

The neighbors’ dogs were overweight and passed away much earlier. They were obese and terrible looking towards the end.

My Labrador is now about 15yo. He’s going deaf and blind. But he can still run and is full of energy. I never indulge the dog with too much food. I will get a bone for him to chew which will last him a while and is low calorie. But I never give him extra helpings or extra meals.

No matter what kind of dog you have (propensity to get fat or not), with discipline, responsible feeding and exercise, you can keep your dog in the optimal weight range. You can feed the dog low-calorie food that will satiate his hunger but not allow him to gain weight.

If it can be done with animals, it can be done with humans.

Obviously dogs are not able to manage their own diets. When food is plentiful and ready to eat, they will eat continuously and they will get fat.

It comes down to the key question: are humans responsible and disciplined enough to manage their own diet and exercise?

[CA renter]

In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.

You’re lucky if you are able to be thin without having to literally starve yourself or work out 2-3X what you do now. Others don’t have your luck.

I’ve known skinny people who live on fast food and rarely exercise. I’ve known heavy people who walk for miles every day and only eat organic foods with very little fat or sugar. Perhaps if you broadened your social circle to include people of all types, you would see that it’s not really all about “diet and exercise.”

[CA renter]

In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.

You’re lucky if you are able to be thin without having to literally starve yourself or work out 2-3X what you do now. Others don’t have your luck.

I’ve known skinny people who live on fast food and rarely exercise. I’ve known heavy people who walk for miles every day and only eat organic foods with very little fat or sugar. Perhaps if you broadened your social circle to include people of all types, you would see that it’s not really all about “diet and exercise.”

[CA renter]

In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.

You’re lucky if you are able to be thin without having to literally starve yourself or work out 2-3X what you do now. Others don’t have your luck.

I’ve known skinny people who live on fast food and rarely exercise. I’ve known heavy people who walk for miles every day and only eat organic foods with very little fat or sugar. Perhaps if you broadened your social circle to include people of all types, you would see that it’s not really all about “diet and exercise.”

[CA renter]

In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.

You’re lucky if you are able to be thin without having to literally starve yourself or work out 2-3X what you do now. Others don’t have your luck.

I’ve known skinny people who live on fast food and rarely exercise. I’ve known heavy people who walk for miles every day and only eat organic foods with very little fat or sugar. Perhaps if you broadened your social circle to include people of all types, you would see that it’s not really all about “diet and exercise.”

[CA renter]

In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.

You’re lucky if you are able to be thin without having to literally starve yourself or work out 2-3X what you do now. Others don’t have your luck.

I’ve known skinny people who live on fast food and rarely exercise. I’ve known heavy people who walk for miles every day and only eat organic foods with very little fat or sugar. Perhaps if you broadened your social circle to include people of all types, you would see that it’s not really all about “diet and exercise.”

[scaredyclassic]

malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.

[scaredyclassic]

malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.

[scaredyclassic]

malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.

[scaredyclassic]

malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.

[scaredyclassic]

malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.[/quote]

I don’t dispute that it’s hard to do just like it’s hard to save rather than spend or to study instead of play.

But that’s part of personal responsibility. Once you do it, it comes naturally.

The thing is that you don’t need to be malnourished or even hungry to be thin. There are plenty of nutrition-dense but low calorie food items:

– Plain boiled beans and lentils
– whole grain such as plain oat meal
– Egg whites
– Tofu
– Taro and other types of roots
– Plain salads with out dressing
– Lean meats

People who gain weight easily have to completely give up low-nutrition, empty calories (things not available to humans in the jungle).

– Sauces
– beer
– soda
– processed/package products
– ice cream
– cakes or anything made with flour
– bacon
– sugar
– sodium/nitrates

If people don’t buy the junk, the kids can’t eat it.

If you’re hungry, eat a bowl of plain oat meal with an apple and a banana. Or eat some boiled taro roots as an afternoon snack.

People have to live within their means (the cards that they’ve been dealt) and make the best of it.

It comes down to plain old responsibility. Don’t be a victim of your environment.

My older brother is growing fat because of his environment. He married a girl from the midwest and their diet is bad. For example, he loves sushi rolls drenched in sauces. I won’t eat it because it’s bad for you and neither real Japanese nor sushi.

So, yeah, I think that it’s good to be “vain and elitist” if that keeps you thin, healthy and goodlooking. Why not?

I recommend this book:

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.[/quote]

I don’t dispute that it’s hard to do just like it’s hard to save rather than spend or to study instead of play.

But that’s part of personal responsibility. Once you do it, it comes naturally.

The thing is that you don’t need to be malnourished or even hungry to be thin. There are plenty of nutrition-dense but low calorie food items:

– Plain boiled beans and lentils
– whole grain such as plain oat meal
– Egg whites
– Tofu
– Taro and other types of roots
– Plain salads with out dressing
– Lean meats

People who gain weight easily have to completely give up low-nutrition, empty calories (things not available to humans in the jungle).

– Sauces
– beer
– soda
– processed/package products
– ice cream
– cakes or anything made with flour
– bacon
– sugar
– sodium/nitrates

If people don’t buy the junk, the kids can’t eat it.

If you’re hungry, eat a bowl of plain oat meal with an apple and a banana. Or eat some boiled taro roots as an afternoon snack.

People have to live within their means (the cards that they’ve been dealt) and make the best of it.

It comes down to plain old responsibility. Don’t be a victim of your environment.

My older brother is growing fat because of his environment. He married a girl from the midwest and their diet is bad. For example, he loves sushi rolls drenched in sauces. I won’t eat it because it’s bad for you and neither real Japanese nor sushi.

So, yeah, I think that it’s good to be “vain and elitist” if that keeps you thin, healthy and goodlooking. Why not?

I recommend this book:

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.[/quote]

I don’t dispute that it’s hard to do just like it’s hard to save rather than spend or to study instead of play.

But that’s part of personal responsibility. Once you do it, it comes naturally.

The thing is that you don’t need to be malnourished or even hungry to be thin. There are plenty of nutrition-dense but low calorie food items:

– Plain boiled beans and lentils
– whole grain such as plain oat meal
– Egg whites
– Tofu
– Taro and other types of roots
– Plain salads with out dressing
– Lean meats

People who gain weight easily have to completely give up low-nutrition, empty calories (things not available to humans in the jungle).

– Sauces
– beer
– soda
– processed/package products
– ice cream
– cakes or anything made with flour
– bacon
– sugar
– sodium/nitrates

If people don’t buy the junk, the kids can’t eat it.

If you’re hungry, eat a bowl of plain oat meal with an apple and a banana. Or eat some boiled taro roots as an afternoon snack.

People have to live within their means (the cards that they’ve been dealt) and make the best of it.

It comes down to plain old responsibility. Don’t be a victim of your environment.

My older brother is growing fat because of his environment. He married a girl from the midwest and their diet is bad. For example, he loves sushi rolls drenched in sauces. I won’t eat it because it’s bad for you and neither real Japanese nor sushi.

So, yeah, I think that it’s good to be “vain and elitist” if that keeps you thin, healthy and goodlooking. Why not?

I recommend this book:

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.[/quote]

I don’t dispute that it’s hard to do just like it’s hard to save rather than spend or to study instead of play.

But that’s part of personal responsibility. Once you do it, it comes naturally.

The thing is that you don’t need to be malnourished or even hungry to be thin. There are plenty of nutrition-dense but low calorie food items:

– Plain boiled beans and lentils
– whole grain such as plain oat meal
– Egg whites
– Tofu
– Taro and other types of roots
– Plain salads with out dressing
– Lean meats

People who gain weight easily have to completely give up low-nutrition, empty calories (things not available to humans in the jungle).

– Sauces
– beer
– soda
– processed/package products
– ice cream
– cakes or anything made with flour
– bacon
– sugar
– sodium/nitrates

If people don’t buy the junk, the kids can’t eat it.

If you’re hungry, eat a bowl of plain oat meal with an apple and a banana. Or eat some boiled taro roots as an afternoon snack.

People have to live within their means (the cards that they’ve been dealt) and make the best of it.

It comes down to plain old responsibility. Don’t be a victim of your environment.

My older brother is growing fat because of his environment. He married a girl from the midwest and their diet is bad. For example, he loves sushi rolls drenched in sauces. I won’t eat it because it’s bad for you and neither real Japanese nor sushi.

So, yeah, I think that it’s good to be “vain and elitist” if that keeps you thin, healthy and goodlooking. Why not?

I recommend this book:

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