huge topic:Americans keep getting fatter

[Zeitgeist]

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[CA renter]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=CA renter]
Based on my observations, I’d say that heavier people tend to be friendlier and happier than the vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.
[/quote]

as a normal weight person (who is now viewed as a thin person in this brave new world), I have to agree with this statement.

in essence, because our weight problem is one of food supply, everyone is fat. therefore, only the ones that’s vain or extremely health conscious would take the time and effort and the extra food cost to maintain proper weight. even thought these people achieve normal weight, they are known as skinny minis or wimps to the 70% of the population that are overweight and beyond.

like I mentioned before, we WILL get to 50% obesity rate. THAT WILL HAPPEN. There is no stopping THAT gravy train.

In that world, we will be looking at 90% overweight rate and probably 40-50% diabetic rate.

In that world, if you are not shooting up insulin, you are likely the “vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.”[/quote]

OC,

There is a huge difference between “normal” people and “vain” people who stare at themselves in the mirror all day. Just because a person is vain doesn’t mean that they are fit or healthy. It means they are narcissistic. It’s a personality disorder, not a sign of health.

There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy. It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently. Just because one person is bigger or smaller than the next does NOT mean they are healthier.

I’ve said it a many times: if you think being underweight/normal guarantees you good health, go sit in a chemo room for a few days. For some reason, all the young ones I’ve seen tend to be very “fit” looking. I’ve seen very few *young* overweight people with cancer. Just an observation…

[CA renter]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=CA renter]
Based on my observations, I’d say that heavier people tend to be friendlier and happier than the vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.
[/quote]

as a normal weight person (who is now viewed as a thin person in this brave new world), I have to agree with this statement.

in essence, because our weight problem is one of food supply, everyone is fat. therefore, only the ones that’s vain or extremely health conscious would take the time and effort and the extra food cost to maintain proper weight. even thought these people achieve normal weight, they are known as skinny minis or wimps to the 70% of the population that are overweight and beyond.

like I mentioned before, we WILL get to 50% obesity rate. THAT WILL HAPPEN. There is no stopping THAT gravy train.

In that world, we will be looking at 90% overweight rate and probably 40-50% diabetic rate.

In that world, if you are not shooting up insulin, you are likely the “vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.”[/quote]

OC,

There is a huge difference between “normal” people and “vain” people who stare at themselves in the mirror all day. Just because a person is vain doesn’t mean that they are fit or healthy. It means they are narcissistic. It’s a personality disorder, not a sign of health.

There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy. It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently. Just because one person is bigger or smaller than the next does NOT mean they are healthier.

I’ve said it a many times: if you think being underweight/normal guarantees you good health, go sit in a chemo room for a few days. For some reason, all the young ones I’ve seen tend to be very “fit” looking. I’ve seen very few *young* overweight people with cancer. Just an observation…

[CA renter]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=CA renter]
Based on my observations, I’d say that heavier people tend to be friendlier and happier than the vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.
[/quote]

as a normal weight person (who is now viewed as a thin person in this brave new world), I have to agree with this statement.

in essence, because our weight problem is one of food supply, everyone is fat. therefore, only the ones that’s vain or extremely health conscious would take the time and effort and the extra food cost to maintain proper weight. even thought these people achieve normal weight, they are known as skinny minis or wimps to the 70% of the population that are overweight and beyond.

like I mentioned before, we WILL get to 50% obesity rate. THAT WILL HAPPEN. There is no stopping THAT gravy train.

In that world, we will be looking at 90% overweight rate and probably 40-50% diabetic rate.

In that world, if you are not shooting up insulin, you are likely the “vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.”[/quote]

OC,

There is a huge difference between “normal” people and “vain” people who stare at themselves in the mirror all day. Just because a person is vain doesn’t mean that they are fit or healthy. It means they are narcissistic. It’s a personality disorder, not a sign of health.

There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy. It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently. Just because one person is bigger or smaller than the next does NOT mean they are healthier.

I’ve said it a many times: if you think being underweight/normal guarantees you good health, go sit in a chemo room for a few days. For some reason, all the young ones I’ve seen tend to be very “fit” looking. I’ve seen very few *young* overweight people with cancer. Just an observation…

[CA renter]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=CA renter]
Based on my observations, I’d say that heavier people tend to be friendlier and happier than the vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.
[/quote]

as a normal weight person (who is now viewed as a thin person in this brave new world), I have to agree with this statement.

in essence, because our weight problem is one of food supply, everyone is fat. therefore, only the ones that’s vain or extremely health conscious would take the time and effort and the extra food cost to maintain proper weight. even thought these people achieve normal weight, they are known as skinny minis or wimps to the 70% of the population that are overweight and beyond.

like I mentioned before, we WILL get to 50% obesity rate. THAT WILL HAPPEN. There is no stopping THAT gravy train.

In that world, we will be looking at 90% overweight rate and probably 40-50% diabetic rate.

In that world, if you are not shooting up insulin, you are likely the “vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.”[/quote]

OC,

There is a huge difference between “normal” people and “vain” people who stare at themselves in the mirror all day. Just because a person is vain doesn’t mean that they are fit or healthy. It means they are narcissistic. It’s a personality disorder, not a sign of health.

There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy. It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently. Just because one person is bigger or smaller than the next does NOT mean they are healthier.

I’ve said it a many times: if you think being underweight/normal guarantees you good health, go sit in a chemo room for a few days. For some reason, all the young ones I’ve seen tend to be very “fit” looking. I’ve seen very few *young* overweight people with cancer. Just an observation…

[CA renter]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=CA renter]
Based on my observations, I’d say that heavier people tend to be friendlier and happier than the vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.
[/quote]

as a normal weight person (who is now viewed as a thin person in this brave new world), I have to agree with this statement.

in essence, because our weight problem is one of food supply, everyone is fat. therefore, only the ones that’s vain or extremely health conscious would take the time and effort and the extra food cost to maintain proper weight. even thought these people achieve normal weight, they are known as skinny minis or wimps to the 70% of the population that are overweight and beyond.

like I mentioned before, we WILL get to 50% obesity rate. THAT WILL HAPPEN. There is no stopping THAT gravy train.

In that world, we will be looking at 90% overweight rate and probably 40-50% diabetic rate.

In that world, if you are not shooting up insulin, you are likely the “vain types who stare at themselves in the mirror all day and disdain those who are not equally vain.”[/quote]

OC,

There is a huge difference between “normal” people and “vain” people who stare at themselves in the mirror all day. Just because a person is vain doesn’t mean that they are fit or healthy. It means they are narcissistic. It’s a personality disorder, not a sign of health.

There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy. It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently. Just because one person is bigger or smaller than the next does NOT mean they are healthier.

I’ve said it a many times: if you think being underweight/normal guarantees you good health, go sit in a chemo room for a few days. For some reason, all the young ones I’ve seen tend to be very “fit” looking. I’ve seen very few *young* overweight people with cancer. Just an observation…

[CA renter]

One more interesting observation about different body types. Just anecdotally, I’ve noticed that women who have naturally larger breasts (C+ cups…can I say that?) before pregnancy tend to retain more fat after pregnancy. The ones who “snap back” tend to be very small-chested prior to pregnancy.

Not just talking about “fat” women with large chests, but also the lucky “normal/fit” types with large breasts who later have kids…it’s like a “fat storing” switch gets turned on during pregnancy and never gets turned back off for these women.

Sorry if that’s TMI or way too O/T. It’s just something that is about 90%+ accurate, based on what I’ve seen. It would be interesting to study how this relates to fat/calorie storage, and if there’s some evolutionary trend that causes some women to retain fat/calories vs. expend it.

[CA renter]

One more interesting observation about different body types. Just anecdotally, I’ve noticed that women who have naturally larger breasts (C+ cups…can I say that?) before pregnancy tend to retain more fat after pregnancy. The ones who “snap back” tend to be very small-chested prior to pregnancy.

Not just talking about “fat” women with large chests, but also the lucky “normal/fit” types with large breasts who later have kids…it’s like a “fat storing” switch gets turned on during pregnancy and never gets turned back off for these women.

Sorry if that’s TMI or way too O/T. It’s just something that is about 90%+ accurate, based on what I’ve seen. It would be interesting to study how this relates to fat/calorie storage, and if there’s some evolutionary trend that causes some women to retain fat/calories vs. expend it.

[CA renter]

One more interesting observation about different body types. Just anecdotally, I’ve noticed that women who have naturally larger breasts (C+ cups…can I say that?) before pregnancy tend to retain more fat after pregnancy. The ones who “snap back” tend to be very small-chested prior to pregnancy.

Not just talking about “fat” women with large chests, but also the lucky “normal/fit” types with large breasts who later have kids…it’s like a “fat storing” switch gets turned on during pregnancy and never gets turned back off for these women.

Sorry if that’s TMI or way too O/T. It’s just something that is about 90%+ accurate, based on what I’ve seen. It would be interesting to study how this relates to fat/calorie storage, and if there’s some evolutionary trend that causes some women to retain fat/calories vs. expend it.

[CA renter]

One more interesting observation about different body types. Just anecdotally, I’ve noticed that women who have naturally larger breasts (C+ cups…can I say that?) before pregnancy tend to retain more fat after pregnancy. The ones who “snap back” tend to be very small-chested prior to pregnancy.

Not just talking about “fat” women with large chests, but also the lucky “normal/fit” types with large breasts who later have kids…it’s like a “fat storing” switch gets turned on during pregnancy and never gets turned back off for these women.

Sorry if that’s TMI or way too O/T. It’s just something that is about 90%+ accurate, based on what I’ve seen. It would be interesting to study how this relates to fat/calorie storage, and if there’s some evolutionary trend that causes some women to retain fat/calories vs. expend it.

[CA renter]

One more interesting observation about different body types. Just anecdotally, I’ve noticed that women who have naturally larger breasts (C+ cups…can I say that?) before pregnancy tend to retain more fat after pregnancy. The ones who “snap back” tend to be very small-chested prior to pregnancy.

Not just talking about “fat” women with large chests, but also the lucky “normal/fit” types with large breasts who later have kids…it’s like a “fat storing” switch gets turned on during pregnancy and never gets turned back off for these women.

Sorry if that’s TMI or way too O/T. It’s just something that is about 90%+ accurate, based on what I’ve seen. It would be interesting to study how this relates to fat/calorie storage, and if there’s some evolutionary trend that causes some women to retain fat/calories vs. expend it.

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]
There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy.
[/quote]

That’s true.

But as a general rule (but not always) thin is better. It depends on the percent body fat you carry around.

[quote=CA renter]
It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently.
[/quote]

Yes, people’s lifestyles and body types are different.

That’s why they need to adjust diet according to their body types and/or change their lifestyles to fit their body types.

If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.

The person who doesn’t metabolize the calories should not eat the same food. He should eat plain boiled beans instead of mashed potatoes with butter and gravy.

If you don’t believe me, try it on your dog/pet. You can exactly control what your dog eats; and you can exercise your dog based on his needs.

My German Shepherd and my Golden Retriever both lived to around 18 years of age because I never allowed them to get overweight.

The neighbors’ dogs were overweight and passed away much earlier. They were obese and terrible looking towards the end.

My Labrador is now about 15yo. He’s going deaf and blind. But he can still run and is full of energy. I never indulge the dog with too much food. I will get a bone for him to chew which will last him a while and is low calorie. But I never give him extra helpings or extra meals.

No matter what kind of dog you have (propensity to get fat or not), with discipline, responsible feeding and exercise, you can keep your dog in the optimal weight range. You can feed the dog low-calorie food that will satiate his hunger but not allow him to gain weight.

If it can be done with animals, it can be done with humans.

Obviously dogs are not able to manage their own diets. When food is plentiful and ready to eat, they will eat continuously and they will get fat.

It comes down to the key question: are humans responsible and disciplined enough to manage their own diet and exercise?

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]
There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy.
[/quote]

That’s true.

But as a general rule (but not always) thin is better. It depends on the percent body fat you carry around.

[quote=CA renter]
It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently.
[/quote]

Yes, people’s lifestyles and body types are different.

That’s why they need to adjust diet according to their body types and/or change their lifestyles to fit their body types.

If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.

The person who doesn’t metabolize the calories should not eat the same food. He should eat plain boiled beans instead of mashed potatoes with butter and gravy.

If you don’t believe me, try it on your dog/pet. You can exactly control what your dog eats; and you can exercise your dog based on his needs.

My German Shepherd and my Golden Retriever both lived to around 18 years of age because I never allowed them to get overweight.

The neighbors’ dogs were overweight and passed away much earlier. They were obese and terrible looking towards the end.

My Labrador is now about 15yo. He’s going deaf and blind. But he can still run and is full of energy. I never indulge the dog with too much food. I will get a bone for him to chew which will last him a while and is low calorie. But I never give him extra helpings or extra meals.

No matter what kind of dog you have (propensity to get fat or not), with discipline, responsible feeding and exercise, you can keep your dog in the optimal weight range. You can feed the dog low-calorie food that will satiate his hunger but not allow him to gain weight.

If it can be done with animals, it can be done with humans.

Obviously dogs are not able to manage their own diets. When food is plentiful and ready to eat, they will eat continuously and they will get fat.

It comes down to the key question: are humans responsible and disciplined enough to manage their own diet and exercise?

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]
There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy.
[/quote]

That’s true.

But as a general rule (but not always) thin is better. It depends on the percent body fat you carry around.

[quote=CA renter]
It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently.
[/quote]

Yes, people’s lifestyles and body types are different.

That’s why they need to adjust diet according to their body types and/or change their lifestyles to fit their body types.

If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.

The person who doesn’t metabolize the calories should not eat the same food. He should eat plain boiled beans instead of mashed potatoes with butter and gravy.

If you don’t believe me, try it on your dog/pet. You can exactly control what your dog eats; and you can exercise your dog based on his needs.

My German Shepherd and my Golden Retriever both lived to around 18 years of age because I never allowed them to get overweight.

The neighbors’ dogs were overweight and passed away much earlier. They were obese and terrible looking towards the end.

My Labrador is now about 15yo. He’s going deaf and blind. But he can still run and is full of energy. I never indulge the dog with too much food. I will get a bone for him to chew which will last him a while and is low calorie. But I never give him extra helpings or extra meals.

No matter what kind of dog you have (propensity to get fat or not), with discipline, responsible feeding and exercise, you can keep your dog in the optimal weight range. You can feed the dog low-calorie food that will satiate his hunger but not allow him to gain weight.

If it can be done with animals, it can be done with humans.

Obviously dogs are not able to manage their own diets. When food is plentiful and ready to eat, they will eat continuously and they will get fat.

It comes down to the key question: are humans responsible and disciplined enough to manage their own diet and exercise?

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]
There are many “overweight” people who are very, very fit; and there are “underweight” and “normal” weight people who are very, very unhealthy.
[/quote]

That’s true.

But as a general rule (but not always) thin is better. It depends on the percent body fat you carry around.

[quote=CA renter]
It depends on the individual’s lifestyle and body type. You cannot compare two different people with two different body types. No matter what Brian thinks, people’s bodies use calories differently.
[/quote]

Yes, people’s lifestyles and body types are different.

That’s why they need to adjust diet according to their body types and/or change their lifestyles to fit their body types.

If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.

The person who doesn’t metabolize the calories should not eat the same food. He should eat plain boiled beans instead of mashed potatoes with butter and gravy.

If you don’t believe me, try it on your dog/pet. You can exactly control what your dog eats; and you can exercise your dog based on his needs.

My German Shepherd and my Golden Retriever both lived to around 18 years of age because I never allowed them to get overweight.

The neighbors’ dogs were overweight and passed away much earlier. They were obese and terrible looking towards the end.

My Labrador is now about 15yo. He’s going deaf and blind. But he can still run and is full of energy. I never indulge the dog with too much food. I will get a bone for him to chew which will last him a while and is low calorie. But I never give him extra helpings or extra meals.

No matter what kind of dog you have (propensity to get fat or not), with discipline, responsible feeding and exercise, you can keep your dog in the optimal weight range. You can feed the dog low-calorie food that will satiate his hunger but not allow him to gain weight.

If it can be done with animals, it can be done with humans.

Obviously dogs are not able to manage their own diets. When food is plentiful and ready to eat, they will eat continuously and they will get fat.

It comes down to the key question: are humans responsible and disciplined enough to manage their own diet and exercise?

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