huge topic:Americans keep getting fatter

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=CA renter][quote=XBoxBoy]Not all Americans are getting fatter. I’ve lost 38 lbs in the last year, so there!

SkinnyBoxBoy[/quote]

Congratulations, XBoxBoy! That’s fantastic! 🙂

How did you do it?[/quote]

Sorry, haven’t been following this thread too carefully. But I did it the old fashioned way. I ate less. I honestly think that’s the only way that works. It’s tough, you have to adjust to the idea that all you need is that small portion. Trust me on this, no one enjoys a nice big juicy steak more than I do. And accepting that I only need 5 of 6 oz of steak instead of a 16 oz rib eye is a real challenge. But that’s what you gotta do if you want to loose weight. And oh yeah, you gotta stick to it, and be patient. The pounds don’t just fall away, and any time you backslide will put you back a week or two.

XBoxBoy

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I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish, so what you end up with is the stereotypical ‘big fat Samoan.’ I doubt islanders are very well educated on their ancestral diets, so it’s not as simple as saying “eat less red meat” for them. In reality, they should cut all red meat and go back to eating fish. Easier said than done. Point being, different body types and ancestral genes determine which diet is best for an individual. A diet that works best for a Samoan probably won’t work well for an Anglo North American, and vice versa.

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I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish, so what you end up with is the stereotypical ‘big fat Samoan.’ I doubt islanders are very well educated on their ancestral diets, so it’s not as simple as saying “eat less red meat” for them. In reality, they should cut all red meat and go back to eating fish. Easier said than done. Point being, different body types and ancestral genes determine which diet is best for an individual. A diet that works best for a Samoan probably won’t work well for an Anglo North American, and vice versa.

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I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish, so what you end up with is the stereotypical ‘big fat Samoan.’ I doubt islanders are very well educated on their ancestral diets, so it’s not as simple as saying “eat less red meat” for them. In reality, they should cut all red meat and go back to eating fish. Easier said than done. Point being, different body types and ancestral genes determine which diet is best for an individual. A diet that works best for a Samoan probably won’t work well for an Anglo North American, and vice versa.

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I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish, so what you end up with is the stereotypical ‘big fat Samoan.’ I doubt islanders are very well educated on their ancestral diets, so it’s not as simple as saying “eat less red meat” for them. In reality, they should cut all red meat and go back to eating fish. Easier said than done. Point being, different body types and ancestral genes determine which diet is best for an individual. A diet that works best for a Samoan probably won’t work well for an Anglo North American, and vice versa.

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I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish, so what you end up with is the stereotypical ‘big fat Samoan.’ I doubt islanders are very well educated on their ancestral diets, so it’s not as simple as saying “eat less red meat” for them. In reality, they should cut all red meat and go back to eating fish. Easier said than done. Point being, different body types and ancestral genes determine which diet is best for an individual. A diet that works best for a Samoan probably won’t work well for an Anglo North American, and vice versa.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]

Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]

I was referring to this:

“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”

This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….

My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]

Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]

I was referring to this:

“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”

This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….

My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]

Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]

I was referring to this:

“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”

This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….

My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]

Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]

I was referring to this:

“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”

This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….

My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=Operation][quote=CardiffBaseball] The difference between you and me is that I don’t talk about my way being best for everyone.[/quote]

Cardiff, please re-read my post and tell me where I say a plant-based diet is best for everyone. Little defensive are we?[/quote]

I was referring to this:

“Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. ”

This is an individual thing. If if works for you great, but realize there are many who sustain on a meat/fat based diet. It really comes down to, like I said, what can you handle. If the Samoans need to eat fish….

My example was of the Inuit Eskimo’s who were able to sustain on a high fat, high protein diet without the amount of disease prevalent in western civilization. (diabetes, intestinal disorders, etc.) Only when they started to westernize did they start seeing a rise in these types of diseases.

[briansd1]

[quote=afx114]I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish,[/quote]

Samoan/Pacific Islander cultures (and many other cultures) equate being fat to high social status and wealth.

I betcha the calorie count of the meat diet is much higher than the fish diet.

I believe that there are 3 elements to diet as it relates to health.

1) People can only gain weight if they consume the calories.

2) Aside from the calories, there’s the nutritional value of the food which contribute to health and longevity.

3) The amount of exercise. The more low-impact exercise, the better.

[briansd1]

[quote=afx114]I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish,[/quote]

Samoan/Pacific Islander cultures (and many other cultures) equate being fat to high social status and wealth.

I betcha the calorie count of the meat diet is much higher than the fish diet.

I believe that there are 3 elements to diet as it relates to health.

1) People can only gain weight if they consume the calories.

2) Aside from the calories, there’s the nutritional value of the food which contribute to health and longevity.

3) The amount of exercise. The more low-impact exercise, the better.

[briansd1]

[quote=afx114]I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish,[/quote]

Samoan/Pacific Islander cultures (and many other cultures) equate being fat to high social status and wealth.

I betcha the calorie count of the meat diet is much higher than the fish diet.

I believe that there are 3 elements to diet as it relates to health.

1) People can only gain weight if they consume the calories.

2) Aside from the calories, there’s the nutritional value of the food which contribute to health and longevity.

3) The amount of exercise. The more low-impact exercise, the better.

[briansd1]

[quote=afx114]I would argue that genes play a larger role than given credit. For example, Pacific Islanders evolved to survive on a minimal diet of plants and fish — not a lot of red meat available on small islands. After millions of years evolving their systems to handle mostly fish as their source of meat, they now have easy access to red and white meat in the form of McDonalds and KFC. Their bodies don’t metabolize these meats as well as they do fish,[/quote]

Samoan/Pacific Islander cultures (and many other cultures) equate being fat to high social status and wealth.

I betcha the calorie count of the meat diet is much higher than the fish diet.

I believe that there are 3 elements to diet as it relates to health.

1) People can only gain weight if they consume the calories.

2) Aside from the calories, there’s the nutritional value of the food which contribute to health and longevity.

3) The amount of exercise. The more low-impact exercise, the better.

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