How to Buy w/out a Realtor?

[drboom]

[quote=bearishgurl]Your answers are neither positive or negative here, drboom, but I’m just trying to explore a buyer’s reasons for “agent defecting.”[/quote]

I didn’t, and I never said or implied I did. Get some new glasses and re-read what I actually wrote. 🙂

Edit: “bidding fair to do” relates to some (years) earlier overtures he made to us. If you read what I wrote, I said I represented myself for our first six months of shopping. That’s fairly unambiguous.

[bearishgurl]

drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. 🙂[/quote]

Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?

[quote=drboom]Let me offer a counterpoint: my wife and I had a bunch of buyer’s agents blow smoke up our posteriors, including a member of my wife’s family who is a 20 year RE veteran. We couldn’t trust any of them, so I represented us through our first six months of serious shopping. There were some agents who didn’t want to have anything to do with me. Their loss. Others were cool with it and worked with me.[/quote]

Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?

[quote=drboom]Long story short, we had a short sale that fell apart in the approval process (stupid BofA: the house is still vacant and on their books 18 months later) . . . . [/quote]

Did you have a Buyer Broker Agency Agreement with the procuring agent of your original failed short-sale transaction?

[bearishgurl]

drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. 🙂[/quote]

Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?

[quote=drboom]Let me offer a counterpoint: my wife and I had a bunch of buyer’s agents blow smoke up our posteriors, including a member of my wife’s family who is a 20 year RE veteran. We couldn’t trust any of them, so I represented us through our first six months of serious shopping. There were some agents who didn’t want to have anything to do with me. Their loss. Others were cool with it and worked with me.[/quote]

Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?

[quote=drboom]Long story short, we had a short sale that fell apart in the approval process (stupid BofA: the house is still vacant and on their books 18 months later) . . . . [/quote]

Did you have a Buyer Broker Agency Agreement with the procuring agent of your original failed short-sale transaction?

[bearishgurl]

drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. 🙂[/quote]

Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?

[quote=drboom]Let me offer a counterpoint: my wife and I had a bunch of buyer’s agents blow smoke up our posteriors, including a member of my wife’s family who is a 20 year RE veteran. We couldn’t trust any of them, so I represented us through our first six months of serious shopping. There were some agents who didn’t want to have anything to do with me. Their loss. Others were cool with it and worked with me.[/quote]

Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?

[quote=drboom]Long story short, we had a short sale that fell apart in the approval process (stupid BofA: the house is still vacant and on their books 18 months later) . . . . [/quote]

Did you have a Buyer Broker Agency Agreement with the procuring agent of your original failed short-sale transaction?

[bearishgurl]

drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. 🙂[/quote]

Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?

[quote=drboom]Let me offer a counterpoint: my wife and I had a bunch of buyer’s agents blow smoke up our posteriors, including a member of my wife’s family who is a 20 year RE veteran. We couldn’t trust any of them, so I represented us through our first six months of serious shopping. There were some agents who didn’t want to have anything to do with me. Their loss. Others were cool with it and worked with me.[/quote]

Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?

[quote=drboom]Long story short, we had a short sale that fell apart in the approval process (stupid BofA: the house is still vacant and on their books 18 months later) . . . . [/quote]

Did you have a Buyer Broker Agency Agreement with the procuring agent of your original failed short-sale transaction?

[bearishgurl]

drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. 🙂[/quote]

Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?

[quote=drboom]Let me offer a counterpoint: my wife and I had a bunch of buyer’s agents blow smoke up our posteriors, including a member of my wife’s family who is a 20 year RE veteran. We couldn’t trust any of them, so I represented us through our first six months of serious shopping. There were some agents who didn’t want to have anything to do with me. Their loss. Others were cool with it and worked with me.[/quote]

Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?

[quote=drboom]Long story short, we had a short sale that fell apart in the approval process (stupid BofA: the house is still vacant and on their books 18 months later) . . . . [/quote]

Did you have a Buyer Broker Agency Agreement with the procuring agent of your original failed short-sale transaction?

[drboom]

Oboy.

[quote=bearishgurl]drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?[/quote]

No.

[quote]Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?[/quote]

No, and no. The years of experience are purely coincidental.

[quote]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.

I see the source of confusion:

[quote][quote]Just wondering though . . . How does your wife’s relative feel about you both now after he was cut out of the commission on that deal?[/quote]
He was pissed, and so were a couple of other family members…
[/quote]

This meant different things to each of us. The family RE person felt entitled to our business so she felt she was “cut out”, and that’s what I was answering. This person was never part of any deal and we never gave her any reason to expect our business.

I only explain myself because I don’t like being accused of unethical business practices–even when I’m an anonymous poster in a forum.

Are we done here?

[drboom]

Oboy.

[quote=bearishgurl]drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?[/quote]

No.

[quote]Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?[/quote]

No, and no. The years of experience are purely coincidental.

[quote]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.

I see the source of confusion:

[quote][quote]Just wondering though . . . How does your wife’s relative feel about you both now after he was cut out of the commission on that deal?[/quote]
He was pissed, and so were a couple of other family members…
[/quote]

This meant different things to each of us. The family RE person felt entitled to our business so she felt she was “cut out”, and that’s what I was answering. This person was never part of any deal and we never gave her any reason to expect our business.

I only explain myself because I don’t like being accused of unethical business practices–even when I’m an anonymous poster in a forum.

Are we done here?

[drboom]

Oboy.

[quote=bearishgurl]drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?[/quote]

No.

[quote]Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?[/quote]

No, and no. The years of experience are purely coincidental.

[quote]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.

I see the source of confusion:

[quote][quote]Just wondering though . . . How does your wife’s relative feel about you both now after he was cut out of the commission on that deal?[/quote]
He was pissed, and so were a couple of other family members…
[/quote]

This meant different things to each of us. The family RE person felt entitled to our business so she felt she was “cut out”, and that’s what I was answering. This person was never part of any deal and we never gave her any reason to expect our business.

I only explain myself because I don’t like being accused of unethical business practices–even when I’m an anonymous poster in a forum.

Are we done here?

[drboom]

Oboy.

[quote=bearishgurl]drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?[/quote]

No.

[quote]Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?[/quote]

No, and no. The years of experience are purely coincidental.

[quote]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.

I see the source of confusion:

[quote][quote]Just wondering though . . . How does your wife’s relative feel about you both now after he was cut out of the commission on that deal?[/quote]
He was pissed, and so were a couple of other family members…
[/quote]

This meant different things to each of us. The family RE person felt entitled to our business so she felt she was “cut out”, and that’s what I was answering. This person was never part of any deal and we never gave her any reason to expect our business.

I only explain myself because I don’t like being accused of unethical business practices–even when I’m an anonymous poster in a forum.

Are we done here?

[drboom]

Oboy.

[quote=bearishgurl]drboom, Is the agent you’re referring to in the passage below your wife’s relative?[/quote]

No.

[quote]Is the emphasized agent (below) the same person as above? Did he ever show you any properties or present any offers for you?[/quote]

No, and no. The years of experience are purely coincidental.

[quote]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.

I see the source of confusion:

[quote][quote]Just wondering though . . . How does your wife’s relative feel about you both now after he was cut out of the commission on that deal?[/quote]
He was pissed, and so were a couple of other family members…
[/quote]

This meant different things to each of us. The family RE person felt entitled to our business so she felt she was “cut out”, and that’s what I was answering. This person was never part of any deal and we never gave her any reason to expect our business.

I only explain myself because I don’t like being accused of unethical business practices–even when I’m an anonymous poster in a forum.

Are we done here?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=drboom][quote=bearishgurl]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.[/quote]

drboom, no one is accusing anyone here of “unethical business practices.” You’re not even an agent! I now understand almost everything, except these two things:

If this agent, referred to below, didn’t represent you in the failed short-sale transaction, did he represent you in transactions before that? If so, what was the outcome of that representation? i.e. rejected offer(s), failed escrow, etc.

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. :-)[/quote]

And, when you represented yourself on the failed short-sale transaction, did the listing agent ever offer to give up any of his commission to entice the bank to accept your (short) offer to purchase? After all, wasn’t he/his broker going to be paid 100% of the commission since you were unrepresented and thus they didn’t have to split any with you?

Thank you for your patience ;=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=drboom][quote=bearishgurl]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.[/quote]

drboom, no one is accusing anyone here of “unethical business practices.” You’re not even an agent! I now understand almost everything, except these two things:

If this agent, referred to below, didn’t represent you in the failed short-sale transaction, did he represent you in transactions before that? If so, what was the outcome of that representation? i.e. rejected offer(s), failed escrow, etc.

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. :-)[/quote]

And, when you represented yourself on the failed short-sale transaction, did the listing agent ever offer to give up any of his commission to entice the bank to accept your (short) offer to purchase? After all, wasn’t he/his broker going to be paid 100% of the commission since you were unrepresented and thus they didn’t have to split any with you?

Thank you for your patience ;=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=drboom][quote=bearishgurl]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.[/quote]

drboom, no one is accusing anyone here of “unethical business practices.” You’re not even an agent! I now understand almost everything, except these two things:

If this agent, referred to below, didn’t represent you in the failed short-sale transaction, did he represent you in transactions before that? If so, what was the outcome of that representation? i.e. rejected offer(s), failed escrow, etc.

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. :-)[/quote]

And, when you represented yourself on the failed short-sale transaction, did the listing agent ever offer to give up any of his commission to entice the bank to accept your (short) offer to purchase? After all, wasn’t he/his broker going to be paid 100% of the commission since you were unrepresented and thus they didn’t have to split any with you?

Thank you for your patience ;=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=drboom][quote=bearishgurl]Was the procuring agent on this short sale (referenced below) your wife’s relative, a different agent (perhaps referred to at the top of this post), or did you represent yourself in the original short-sale transaction?[/quote]

I represented myself, as I have said repeatedly.[/quote]

drboom, no one is accusing anyone here of “unethical business practices.” You’re not even an agent! I now understand almost everything, except these two things:

If this agent, referred to below, didn’t represent you in the failed short-sale transaction, did he represent you in transactions before that? If so, what was the outcome of that representation? i.e. rejected offer(s), failed escrow, etc.

[quote=drboom]Our agent, who did a terrific job on the tasks we needed him for, was completely useless to us for research … because he is a transplant who settled here when he retired from the navy and went into RE in the late 80s. :-)[/quote]

And, when you represented yourself on the failed short-sale transaction, did the listing agent ever offer to give up any of his commission to entice the bank to accept your (short) offer to purchase? After all, wasn’t he/his broker going to be paid 100% of the commission since you were unrepresented and thus they didn’t have to split any with you?

Thank you for your patience ;=)

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