How do you feel about the future of US?

[MicroGravity]

[quote]One good thing that comes out of the high public debts is that we won’t be able to start costly new wars. [/quote]

Think so? The US has the privilege of issuing debt in their own currency, they can always print more money. Wars are a great way to stimulate the economy now, at the expense of your grandkid’s future–all while distracting the dumb masses.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I’ve done a lot of travel in Europe – except for the filthy rich – people live smaller… smaller houses and apartments, smaller cars, less stuff… We could learn a lesson.

Sounds good to me as long as we get all the nice stuff they enjoy like quality public transport, medical care, free university, pensions, 4+ weeks vacation mandatory, labor rights, etc…

People there basically make a deal to live with less in exchange for a tremendous amount of benefits. Here we’ll be living with less and no benefits at all. France probably isn’t a good example of what the future US will be like, but Mexico might not be too far off the mark…[/quote]
Sounds good to me. I would love to have 6-8 weeks of vacation and 1 year of paternity/maternity leave. I’d love to have pensions and all the other good stuff you just stated too. I can be sitting on my lazy a$$ and enjoy all these great benefits.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I’ve done a lot of travel in Europe – except for the filthy rich – people live smaller… smaller houses and apartments, smaller cars, less stuff… We could learn a lesson.

Sounds good to me as long as we get all the nice stuff they enjoy like quality public transport, medical care, free university, pensions, 4+ weeks vacation mandatory, labor rights, etc…

People there basically make a deal to live with less in exchange for a tremendous amount of benefits. Here we’ll be living with less and no benefits at all. France probably isn’t a good example of what the future US will be like, but Mexico might not be too far off the mark…[/quote]
Sounds good to me. I would love to have 6-8 weeks of vacation and 1 year of paternity/maternity leave. I’d love to have pensions and all the other good stuff you just stated too. I can be sitting on my lazy a$$ and enjoy all these great benefits.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I’ve done a lot of travel in Europe – except for the filthy rich – people live smaller… smaller houses and apartments, smaller cars, less stuff… We could learn a lesson.

Sounds good to me as long as we get all the nice stuff they enjoy like quality public transport, medical care, free university, pensions, 4+ weeks vacation mandatory, labor rights, etc…

People there basically make a deal to live with less in exchange for a tremendous amount of benefits. Here we’ll be living with less and no benefits at all. France probably isn’t a good example of what the future US will be like, but Mexico might not be too far off the mark…[/quote]
Sounds good to me. I would love to have 6-8 weeks of vacation and 1 year of paternity/maternity leave. I’d love to have pensions and all the other good stuff you just stated too. I can be sitting on my lazy a$$ and enjoy all these great benefits.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I’ve done a lot of travel in Europe – except for the filthy rich – people live smaller… smaller houses and apartments, smaller cars, less stuff… We could learn a lesson.

Sounds good to me as long as we get all the nice stuff they enjoy like quality public transport, medical care, free university, pensions, 4+ weeks vacation mandatory, labor rights, etc…

People there basically make a deal to live with less in exchange for a tremendous amount of benefits. Here we’ll be living with less and no benefits at all. France probably isn’t a good example of what the future US will be like, but Mexico might not be too far off the mark…[/quote]
Sounds good to me. I would love to have 6-8 weeks of vacation and 1 year of paternity/maternity leave. I’d love to have pensions and all the other good stuff you just stated too. I can be sitting on my lazy a$$ and enjoy all these great benefits.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I’ve done a lot of travel in Europe – except for the filthy rich – people live smaller… smaller houses and apartments, smaller cars, less stuff… We could learn a lesson.

Sounds good to me as long as we get all the nice stuff they enjoy like quality public transport, medical care, free university, pensions, 4+ weeks vacation mandatory, labor rights, etc…

People there basically make a deal to live with less in exchange for a tremendous amount of benefits. Here we’ll be living with less and no benefits at all. France probably isn’t a good example of what the future US will be like, but Mexico might not be too far off the mark…[/quote]
Sounds good to me. I would love to have 6-8 weeks of vacation and 1 year of paternity/maternity leave. I’d love to have pensions and all the other good stuff you just stated too. I can be sitting on my lazy a$$ and enjoy all these great benefits.

[felix]

I guess this would be an issue if we actually did start costly new wars.

I can only assume you are referring to Iraq which was actually a war started in 1990 by Saddam’s incursion into Kuwait. That war was never ended.

It was in a cease fire and the conditions of that cease fire were repeatedly violated by Saddam. Saddam had longer range missiles than allowed, he violated no-fly zones, he interfered with and tossed out inspectors. And most importantly he never demonstrated to the UN that he destroyed WMD. That was his responsibility.

I also hope you are aware that it costs three times as much to supply a soldier in Afghanistan than Iraq due to it being land locked. And I hope you don’t think it cost nothing to patrol and hem in Saddam forever.

Our priorities of keeping our citizens and allies safe wasn’t screwed up. That should be our first priority imo.

[felix]

I guess this would be an issue if we actually did start costly new wars.

I can only assume you are referring to Iraq which was actually a war started in 1990 by Saddam’s incursion into Kuwait. That war was never ended.

It was in a cease fire and the conditions of that cease fire were repeatedly violated by Saddam. Saddam had longer range missiles than allowed, he violated no-fly zones, he interfered with and tossed out inspectors. And most importantly he never demonstrated to the UN that he destroyed WMD. That was his responsibility.

I also hope you are aware that it costs three times as much to supply a soldier in Afghanistan than Iraq due to it being land locked. And I hope you don’t think it cost nothing to patrol and hem in Saddam forever.

Our priorities of keeping our citizens and allies safe wasn’t screwed up. That should be our first priority imo.

[felix]

I guess this would be an issue if we actually did start costly new wars.

I can only assume you are referring to Iraq which was actually a war started in 1990 by Saddam’s incursion into Kuwait. That war was never ended.

It was in a cease fire and the conditions of that cease fire were repeatedly violated by Saddam. Saddam had longer range missiles than allowed, he violated no-fly zones, he interfered with and tossed out inspectors. And most importantly he never demonstrated to the UN that he destroyed WMD. That was his responsibility.

I also hope you are aware that it costs three times as much to supply a soldier in Afghanistan than Iraq due to it being land locked. And I hope you don’t think it cost nothing to patrol and hem in Saddam forever.

Our priorities of keeping our citizens and allies safe wasn’t screwed up. That should be our first priority imo.

[felix]

I guess this would be an issue if we actually did start costly new wars.

I can only assume you are referring to Iraq which was actually a war started in 1990 by Saddam’s incursion into Kuwait. That war was never ended.

It was in a cease fire and the conditions of that cease fire were repeatedly violated by Saddam. Saddam had longer range missiles than allowed, he violated no-fly zones, he interfered with and tossed out inspectors. And most importantly he never demonstrated to the UN that he destroyed WMD. That was his responsibility.

I also hope you are aware that it costs three times as much to supply a soldier in Afghanistan than Iraq due to it being land locked. And I hope you don’t think it cost nothing to patrol and hem in Saddam forever.

Our priorities of keeping our citizens and allies safe wasn’t screwed up. That should be our first priority imo.

[felix]

I guess this would be an issue if we actually did start costly new wars.

I can only assume you are referring to Iraq which was actually a war started in 1990 by Saddam’s incursion into Kuwait. That war was never ended.

It was in a cease fire and the conditions of that cease fire were repeatedly violated by Saddam. Saddam had longer range missiles than allowed, he violated no-fly zones, he interfered with and tossed out inspectors. And most importantly he never demonstrated to the UN that he destroyed WMD. That was his responsibility.

I also hope you are aware that it costs three times as much to supply a soldier in Afghanistan than Iraq due to it being land locked. And I hope you don’t think it cost nothing to patrol and hem in Saddam forever.

Our priorities of keeping our citizens and allies safe wasn’t screwed up. That should be our first priority imo.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]OK I just don’t see inflation happening,
Really have you guy’s thought this through,

You need near full employment to have inflation I would think… [/quote]

This was widely believed prior to the experience of the late 1970’s through 1982. The worst period of post-war inflation in the United States occurred during a period with the highest post-war unemployment rate.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]OK I just don’t see inflation happening,
Really have you guy’s thought this through,

You need near full employment to have inflation I would think… [/quote]

This was widely believed prior to the experience of the late 1970’s through 1982. The worst period of post-war inflation in the United States occurred during a period with the highest post-war unemployment rate.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]OK I just don’t see inflation happening,
Really have you guy’s thought this through,

You need near full employment to have inflation I would think… [/quote]

This was widely believed prior to the experience of the late 1970’s through 1982. The worst period of post-war inflation in the United States occurred during a period with the highest post-war unemployment rate.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]OK I just don’t see inflation happening,
Really have you guy’s thought this through,

You need near full employment to have inflation I would think… [/quote]

This was widely believed prior to the experience of the late 1970’s through 1982. The worst period of post-war inflation in the United States occurred during a period with the highest post-war unemployment rate.

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