House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat.

[ucodegen]

I know at Scripps Hospital, there’s a max of 4 patient per nurse (RN not LVN). Since you have first hand experience, can you elaborate on what’s the patient/RN ratio at your dad’s nursing home?

It was between 2 and 3. The Nursing home was structured for those that need more care than normal. I would need to see if I can find out if they were LVN or RN, or what was the ratio with RN. I suspect just a bit higher at 6 to 8 on RN only. They made it up with more LVNs.

I also said that the patient/RN ratio is only one reason why hospital have to charge more. I don’t run a hospital, so I can’t tell you what their costs are, but some hospital, like Scripps, are non profit, so there must be a reason why they’re charging the rate they are charging.

I have wondered about that too. I would like to see their internal cost structure. The room cost alone would support the wages for almost 13 additional RNs dedicated to only one person… so something is up. Non-profit is an interesting game.. there are churches that are running hospitals (ie. Glendale Adventists) and are registered as non-profit.. is this because they are affiliated with a church and proceeds go to the church? I repeat: I would really like to see the cost structure.. so little is discussed about the ‘room bill’ on a hospital.. and it is so large, quite often larger than the actual surgery bill and specific care surcharges.. and it is a black hole— literally.

If it’s so profitable to run a hospital as you trying to portray, then wouldn’t there be a lot more hospital propping up?

Simple.. and 2 words: Licensing and Insurance.

[mike92104]

I’d like to point out how stupid the “if we just didn’t spend money on the war, we could afford health care” argument is. Wars are temporary and a excellent example of the kind of thing that should go on the “credit card” since they can not be budgeted. The health care reform act is a LONG term expense that many people agree will cost the country much more than congress is saying. I can see the memo now. “Dear world, please do not attack us. We have decided to spend our money on health care instead of wars. Sincerely, USA”

[mike92104]

I’d like to point out how stupid the “if we just didn’t spend money on the war, we could afford health care” argument is. Wars are temporary and a excellent example of the kind of thing that should go on the “credit card” since they can not be budgeted. The health care reform act is a LONG term expense that many people agree will cost the country much more than congress is saying. I can see the memo now. “Dear world, please do not attack us. We have decided to spend our money on health care instead of wars. Sincerely, USA”

[mike92104]

I’d like to point out how stupid the “if we just didn’t spend money on the war, we could afford health care” argument is. Wars are temporary and a excellent example of the kind of thing that should go on the “credit card” since they can not be budgeted. The health care reform act is a LONG term expense that many people agree will cost the country much more than congress is saying. I can see the memo now. “Dear world, please do not attack us. We have decided to spend our money on health care instead of wars. Sincerely, USA”

[mike92104]

I’d like to point out how stupid the “if we just didn’t spend money on the war, we could afford health care” argument is. Wars are temporary and a excellent example of the kind of thing that should go on the “credit card” since they can not be budgeted. The health care reform act is a LONG term expense that many people agree will cost the country much more than congress is saying. I can see the memo now. “Dear world, please do not attack us. We have decided to spend our money on health care instead of wars. Sincerely, USA”

[mike92104]

I’d like to point out how stupid the “if we just didn’t spend money on the war, we could afford health care” argument is. Wars are temporary and a excellent example of the kind of thing that should go on the “credit card” since they can not be budgeted. The health care reform act is a LONG term expense that many people agree will cost the country much more than congress is saying. I can see the memo now. “Dear world, please do not attack us. We have decided to spend our money on health care instead of wars. Sincerely, USA”

[ucodegen]

You can use hydrogen peroxide to gargle after a meal. It’s cheaper and the same thing as Listerine whitening. Helps keep the stains away.

Arm&Hammer has a line of toothpaste that has hydrogen peroxide and baking soda in it.. tastes like crap(no sugar) but works real well. They have one ‘Age Defying’ which I found interesting, but hard to get. It contains calcium sulfate which I suspect they advertise as “Liquid Calcium” and is supposed to help rebuild the enamel.. I have noticed some differences when using it.

Actually Americans generally have good dental hygiene. I’ve been to countries where you see the cavities as soon as people open their mouths.

I have also come across some foreign citizens where there is very little cavitation and they don’t do as much dental maintenance as the US. The difference is that they don’t have American’s high carbohydrate/starch/sugar diet.

No bread and cookies.

Well I have to have my chocolate chip cookies or dark chocolate once in a while.. but only in moderation.. 😉

So the TJ dentist saved me in a) saying the tooth did not need root-canal bridge ($1350 savings), and b) his costs were of course much lower.

I would be careful on not needing the root-canal. I don’t understand the need for a bridge if you are having posts put in. Bridges add rigidity to the tooth if there is insufficient structure to mount the crown on.. but a post provides the rigidity. A post is made out of titanium and it goes into a tooth’s root – thereby the need for a root canal when you have a post.

Back to the Dentist is us ADA certified and lives and has an office in Chula Vista as well. He said some of his clients simply don’t care about the savings in Mexico, so they stay stateside.

Could be the difference in insurance costs… covering dentists that really should not be practicing in the US..

[ucodegen]

You can use hydrogen peroxide to gargle after a meal. It’s cheaper and the same thing as Listerine whitening. Helps keep the stains away.

Arm&Hammer has a line of toothpaste that has hydrogen peroxide and baking soda in it.. tastes like crap(no sugar) but works real well. They have one ‘Age Defying’ which I found interesting, but hard to get. It contains calcium sulfate which I suspect they advertise as “Liquid Calcium” and is supposed to help rebuild the enamel.. I have noticed some differences when using it.

Actually Americans generally have good dental hygiene. I’ve been to countries where you see the cavities as soon as people open their mouths.

I have also come across some foreign citizens where there is very little cavitation and they don’t do as much dental maintenance as the US. The difference is that they don’t have American’s high carbohydrate/starch/sugar diet.

No bread and cookies.

Well I have to have my chocolate chip cookies or dark chocolate once in a while.. but only in moderation.. 😉

So the TJ dentist saved me in a) saying the tooth did not need root-canal bridge ($1350 savings), and b) his costs were of course much lower.

I would be careful on not needing the root-canal. I don’t understand the need for a bridge if you are having posts put in. Bridges add rigidity to the tooth if there is insufficient structure to mount the crown on.. but a post provides the rigidity. A post is made out of titanium and it goes into a tooth’s root – thereby the need for a root canal when you have a post.

Back to the Dentist is us ADA certified and lives and has an office in Chula Vista as well. He said some of his clients simply don’t care about the savings in Mexico, so they stay stateside.

Could be the difference in insurance costs… covering dentists that really should not be practicing in the US..

[ucodegen]

You can use hydrogen peroxide to gargle after a meal. It’s cheaper and the same thing as Listerine whitening. Helps keep the stains away.

Arm&Hammer has a line of toothpaste that has hydrogen peroxide and baking soda in it.. tastes like crap(no sugar) but works real well. They have one ‘Age Defying’ which I found interesting, but hard to get. It contains calcium sulfate which I suspect they advertise as “Liquid Calcium” and is supposed to help rebuild the enamel.. I have noticed some differences when using it.

Actually Americans generally have good dental hygiene. I’ve been to countries where you see the cavities as soon as people open their mouths.

I have also come across some foreign citizens where there is very little cavitation and they don’t do as much dental maintenance as the US. The difference is that they don’t have American’s high carbohydrate/starch/sugar diet.

No bread and cookies.

Well I have to have my chocolate chip cookies or dark chocolate once in a while.. but only in moderation.. 😉

So the TJ dentist saved me in a) saying the tooth did not need root-canal bridge ($1350 savings), and b) his costs were of course much lower.

I would be careful on not needing the root-canal. I don’t understand the need for a bridge if you are having posts put in. Bridges add rigidity to the tooth if there is insufficient structure to mount the crown on.. but a post provides the rigidity. A post is made out of titanium and it goes into a tooth’s root – thereby the need for a root canal when you have a post.

Back to the Dentist is us ADA certified and lives and has an office in Chula Vista as well. He said some of his clients simply don’t care about the savings in Mexico, so they stay stateside.

Could be the difference in insurance costs… covering dentists that really should not be practicing in the US..

[ucodegen]

You can use hydrogen peroxide to gargle after a meal. It’s cheaper and the same thing as Listerine whitening. Helps keep the stains away.

Arm&Hammer has a line of toothpaste that has hydrogen peroxide and baking soda in it.. tastes like crap(no sugar) but works real well. They have one ‘Age Defying’ which I found interesting, but hard to get. It contains calcium sulfate which I suspect they advertise as “Liquid Calcium” and is supposed to help rebuild the enamel.. I have noticed some differences when using it.

Actually Americans generally have good dental hygiene. I’ve been to countries where you see the cavities as soon as people open their mouths.

I have also come across some foreign citizens where there is very little cavitation and they don’t do as much dental maintenance as the US. The difference is that they don’t have American’s high carbohydrate/starch/sugar diet.

No bread and cookies.

Well I have to have my chocolate chip cookies or dark chocolate once in a while.. but only in moderation.. 😉

So the TJ dentist saved me in a) saying the tooth did not need root-canal bridge ($1350 savings), and b) his costs were of course much lower.

I would be careful on not needing the root-canal. I don’t understand the need for a bridge if you are having posts put in. Bridges add rigidity to the tooth if there is insufficient structure to mount the crown on.. but a post provides the rigidity. A post is made out of titanium and it goes into a tooth’s root – thereby the need for a root canal when you have a post.

Back to the Dentist is us ADA certified and lives and has an office in Chula Vista as well. He said some of his clients simply don’t care about the savings in Mexico, so they stay stateside.

Could be the difference in insurance costs… covering dentists that really should not be practicing in the US..

[ucodegen]

You can use hydrogen peroxide to gargle after a meal. It’s cheaper and the same thing as Listerine whitening. Helps keep the stains away.

Arm&Hammer has a line of toothpaste that has hydrogen peroxide and baking soda in it.. tastes like crap(no sugar) but works real well. They have one ‘Age Defying’ which I found interesting, but hard to get. It contains calcium sulfate which I suspect they advertise as “Liquid Calcium” and is supposed to help rebuild the enamel.. I have noticed some differences when using it.

Actually Americans generally have good dental hygiene. I’ve been to countries where you see the cavities as soon as people open their mouths.

I have also come across some foreign citizens where there is very little cavitation and they don’t do as much dental maintenance as the US. The difference is that they don’t have American’s high carbohydrate/starch/sugar diet.

No bread and cookies.

Well I have to have my chocolate chip cookies or dark chocolate once in a while.. but only in moderation.. 😉

So the TJ dentist saved me in a) saying the tooth did not need root-canal bridge ($1350 savings), and b) his costs were of course much lower.

I would be careful on not needing the root-canal. I don’t understand the need for a bridge if you are having posts put in. Bridges add rigidity to the tooth if there is insufficient structure to mount the crown on.. but a post provides the rigidity. A post is made out of titanium and it goes into a tooth’s root – thereby the need for a root canal when you have a post.

Back to the Dentist is us ADA certified and lives and has an office in Chula Vista as well. He said some of his clients simply don’t care about the savings in Mexico, so they stay stateside.

Could be the difference in insurance costs… covering dentists that really should not be practicing in the US..

[an]

ucodegen, one other factor I can think of for the cost difference is room occupancy. Hospital are usually not at 100% room occupancy most of the time. There are fixed cost that they still have to pay regardless of how full they are. While nursing homes are much more likely to be at or near full occupancy.

I know someone who works at a non-profit hospital and yet, their budget is also very tight. So, it’s not as lucrative as you think it is. Maybe a publicly traded hospital might have their cost structure for you to see in their earning report.

[an]

ucodegen, one other factor I can think of for the cost difference is room occupancy. Hospital are usually not at 100% room occupancy most of the time. There are fixed cost that they still have to pay regardless of how full they are. While nursing homes are much more likely to be at or near full occupancy.

I know someone who works at a non-profit hospital and yet, their budget is also very tight. So, it’s not as lucrative as you think it is. Maybe a publicly traded hospital might have their cost structure for you to see in their earning report.

[an]

ucodegen, one other factor I can think of for the cost difference is room occupancy. Hospital are usually not at 100% room occupancy most of the time. There are fixed cost that they still have to pay regardless of how full they are. While nursing homes are much more likely to be at or near full occupancy.

I know someone who works at a non-profit hospital and yet, their budget is also very tight. So, it’s not as lucrative as you think it is. Maybe a publicly traded hospital might have their cost structure for you to see in their earning report.

[an]

ucodegen, one other factor I can think of for the cost difference is room occupancy. Hospital are usually not at 100% room occupancy most of the time. There are fixed cost that they still have to pay regardless of how full they are. While nursing homes are much more likely to be at or near full occupancy.

I know someone who works at a non-profit hospital and yet, their budget is also very tight. So, it’s not as lucrative as you think it is. Maybe a publicly traded hospital might have their cost structure for you to see in their earning report.

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