Healthcare is not a right!?

[scaredyclassic]

maybe it just depends on what you mean by “a natural weight”. it seems like what it’s come to mean is, given access to as much processed food you want of the type you’d want, and given the option to exercise or move as much or as little as you’d like, what would you “naturally” do. i would suggets that there sis no way to view any of those states is “natural” in any meaningful kinda way and any weight assicated with this bountiful state of affairs cannot in any way said to be natural or inevitable.

[briansd1]

[quote=scaredycat]i think it’s pretty obvious that if TSHTF and there was little food available and people survived by moving around a lot and scavenging, there would be zero obesity. none. zilch. It’s clearly not just determined by metabolism and genetics. where you are, what you do, what’s available, what’s socially acceptable, not only matters — it drives everything…[/quote]

I totally agree.

I’ve observed that in my travels around the world. And I truly believe it’s the type of food and how much people eat.

Palestinians are poor but fat. The food they eat is fattening stew and bread. Look on TV at people in Iraq. They eat fattening food also. But pay attention and compare the people in Baghdad vs. the people in rural areas.

In rural Thailand (and other parts of SE Asia), people eat mostly vegetables, fruits, low-quality rice (meaning less processed as the “good” quality is exported), fish, poultry and little red meat.

In the city, Bangkok, people are substantially fatter because they eat bread, cakes and Western food, Chinese-style fried food and processed “premium” white rice.

Filipinos (even poor ones) are generally fat because they eat lots of stew full of lard.

BTW, it’s very possible to be fat while being “skinny”. Too much body fat in proportion to weight is a problem.

[briansd1]

[quote=scaredycat]i think it’s pretty obvious that if TSHTF and there was little food available and people survived by moving around a lot and scavenging, there would be zero obesity. none. zilch. It’s clearly not just determined by metabolism and genetics. where you are, what you do, what’s available, what’s socially acceptable, not only matters — it drives everything…[/quote]

I totally agree.

I’ve observed that in my travels around the world. And I truly believe it’s the type of food and how much people eat.

Palestinians are poor but fat. The food they eat is fattening stew and bread. Look on TV at people in Iraq. They eat fattening food also. But pay attention and compare the people in Baghdad vs. the people in rural areas.

In rural Thailand (and other parts of SE Asia), people eat mostly vegetables, fruits, low-quality rice (meaning less processed as the “good” quality is exported), fish, poultry and little red meat.

In the city, Bangkok, people are substantially fatter because they eat bread, cakes and Western food, Chinese-style fried food and processed “premium” white rice.

Filipinos (even poor ones) are generally fat because they eat lots of stew full of lard.

BTW, it’s very possible to be fat while being “skinny”. Too much body fat in proportion to weight is a problem.

[briansd1]

[quote=scaredycat]i think it’s pretty obvious that if TSHTF and there was little food available and people survived by moving around a lot and scavenging, there would be zero obesity. none. zilch. It’s clearly not just determined by metabolism and genetics. where you are, what you do, what’s available, what’s socially acceptable, not only matters — it drives everything…[/quote]

I totally agree.

I’ve observed that in my travels around the world. And I truly believe it’s the type of food and how much people eat.

Palestinians are poor but fat. The food they eat is fattening stew and bread. Look on TV at people in Iraq. They eat fattening food also. But pay attention and compare the people in Baghdad vs. the people in rural areas.

In rural Thailand (and other parts of SE Asia), people eat mostly vegetables, fruits, low-quality rice (meaning less processed as the “good” quality is exported), fish, poultry and little red meat.

In the city, Bangkok, people are substantially fatter because they eat bread, cakes and Western food, Chinese-style fried food and processed “premium” white rice.

Filipinos (even poor ones) are generally fat because they eat lots of stew full of lard.

BTW, it’s very possible to be fat while being “skinny”. Too much body fat in proportion to weight is a problem.

[briansd1]

[quote=scaredycat]i think it’s pretty obvious that if TSHTF and there was little food available and people survived by moving around a lot and scavenging, there would be zero obesity. none. zilch. It’s clearly not just determined by metabolism and genetics. where you are, what you do, what’s available, what’s socially acceptable, not only matters — it drives everything…[/quote]

I totally agree.

I’ve observed that in my travels around the world. And I truly believe it’s the type of food and how much people eat.

Palestinians are poor but fat. The food they eat is fattening stew and bread. Look on TV at people in Iraq. They eat fattening food also. But pay attention and compare the people in Baghdad vs. the people in rural areas.

In rural Thailand (and other parts of SE Asia), people eat mostly vegetables, fruits, low-quality rice (meaning less processed as the “good” quality is exported), fish, poultry and little red meat.

In the city, Bangkok, people are substantially fatter because they eat bread, cakes and Western food, Chinese-style fried food and processed “premium” white rice.

Filipinos (even poor ones) are generally fat because they eat lots of stew full of lard.

BTW, it’s very possible to be fat while being “skinny”. Too much body fat in proportion to weight is a problem.

[briansd1]

[quote=scaredycat]i think it’s pretty obvious that if TSHTF and there was little food available and people survived by moving around a lot and scavenging, there would be zero obesity. none. zilch. It’s clearly not just determined by metabolism and genetics. where you are, what you do, what’s available, what’s socially acceptable, not only matters — it drives everything…[/quote]

I totally agree.

I’ve observed that in my travels around the world. And I truly believe it’s the type of food and how much people eat.

Palestinians are poor but fat. The food they eat is fattening stew and bread. Look on TV at people in Iraq. They eat fattening food also. But pay attention and compare the people in Baghdad vs. the people in rural areas.

In rural Thailand (and other parts of SE Asia), people eat mostly vegetables, fruits, low-quality rice (meaning less processed as the “good” quality is exported), fish, poultry and little red meat.

In the city, Bangkok, people are substantially fatter because they eat bread, cakes and Western food, Chinese-style fried food and processed “premium” white rice.

Filipinos (even poor ones) are generally fat because they eat lots of stew full of lard.

BTW, it’s very possible to be fat while being “skinny”. Too much body fat in proportion to weight is a problem.

[afx114]

Socioeconomic factors play a role as well. The cheapest foods are usually the ones that are the least healthy, eg: McDonalds — feed your family of 6, 12 cheeseburgers for $6 bucks and you don’t even have to waste time cooking/cleaning!!

I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?

[afx114]

Socioeconomic factors play a role as well. The cheapest foods are usually the ones that are the least healthy, eg: McDonalds — feed your family of 6, 12 cheeseburgers for $6 bucks and you don’t even have to waste time cooking/cleaning!!

I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?

[afx114]

Socioeconomic factors play a role as well. The cheapest foods are usually the ones that are the least healthy, eg: McDonalds — feed your family of 6, 12 cheeseburgers for $6 bucks and you don’t even have to waste time cooking/cleaning!!

I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?

[afx114]

Socioeconomic factors play a role as well. The cheapest foods are usually the ones that are the least healthy, eg: McDonalds — feed your family of 6, 12 cheeseburgers for $6 bucks and you don’t even have to waste time cooking/cleaning!!

I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?

[afx114]

Socioeconomic factors play a role as well. The cheapest foods are usually the ones that are the least healthy, eg: McDonalds — feed your family of 6, 12 cheeseburgers for $6 bucks and you don’t even have to waste time cooking/cleaning!!

I’ve read that evolutionarily, Pacific Islanders have developed digestive systems catered towards fish and plant processing. It wasn’t until the introduction of fatty red meat in the last couple hundred years that the stereotypical Samoan/Hawaiian sumo-size came to be. Their digestive systems are just not evolved to efficiently process all of the fats. Any evolutionary biologists in the house know if this is true or not?

[ariffe22]

The difference here is that with Healthcare, you are receiving a specific service upon request. You don’t have a police officer and Fire fighter at your house 24/7. These two do not protect our stuff for free as we pay property taxes and sales taxes so they can sit around and wait for something bad to happen.

[ariffe22]

The difference here is that with Healthcare, you are receiving a specific service upon request. You don’t have a police officer and Fire fighter at your house 24/7. These two do not protect our stuff for free as we pay property taxes and sales taxes so they can sit around and wait for something bad to happen.

[ariffe22]

The difference here is that with Healthcare, you are receiving a specific service upon request. You don’t have a police officer and Fire fighter at your house 24/7. These two do not protect our stuff for free as we pay property taxes and sales taxes so they can sit around and wait for something bad to happen.

[ariffe22]

The difference here is that with Healthcare, you are receiving a specific service upon request. You don’t have a police officer and Fire fighter at your house 24/7. These two do not protect our stuff for free as we pay property taxes and sales taxes so they can sit around and wait for something bad to happen.

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