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December 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM #498341December 28, 2009 at 1:39 PM #497472AnonymousGuest
[quote=NeetaT]”Abdulmutallab was released from a hospital […]”
Look everyone; I guess healthcare is a right![/quote]
What part of the news release says that the medical bill will be paid by the state?
But there’s a more important fiscal issue here:
Every few years some crackpot makes an amateur attempt to bring down a plane. The operation is poorly funded, only involves one person, and has weak ties (at best) to an international terror organization.
But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.
We spend as much on military than the rest of the world combined, but now we will have to spend more (and go deeper into debt) in order to make us safe, correct?
If these terrorists are really such a threat, why couldn’t they provide this guy with a better bomb?
December 28, 2009 at 1:39 PM #497625AnonymousGuest[quote=NeetaT]”Abdulmutallab was released from a hospital […]”
Look everyone; I guess healthcare is a right![/quote]
What part of the news release says that the medical bill will be paid by the state?
But there’s a more important fiscal issue here:
Every few years some crackpot makes an amateur attempt to bring down a plane. The operation is poorly funded, only involves one person, and has weak ties (at best) to an international terror organization.
But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.
We spend as much on military than the rest of the world combined, but now we will have to spend more (and go deeper into debt) in order to make us safe, correct?
If these terrorists are really such a threat, why couldn’t they provide this guy with a better bomb?
December 28, 2009 at 1:39 PM #498016AnonymousGuest[quote=NeetaT]”Abdulmutallab was released from a hospital […]”
Look everyone; I guess healthcare is a right![/quote]
What part of the news release says that the medical bill will be paid by the state?
But there’s a more important fiscal issue here:
Every few years some crackpot makes an amateur attempt to bring down a plane. The operation is poorly funded, only involves one person, and has weak ties (at best) to an international terror organization.
But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.
We spend as much on military than the rest of the world combined, but now we will have to spend more (and go deeper into debt) in order to make us safe, correct?
If these terrorists are really such a threat, why couldn’t they provide this guy with a better bomb?
December 28, 2009 at 1:39 PM #498109AnonymousGuest[quote=NeetaT]”Abdulmutallab was released from a hospital […]”
Look everyone; I guess healthcare is a right![/quote]
What part of the news release says that the medical bill will be paid by the state?
But there’s a more important fiscal issue here:
Every few years some crackpot makes an amateur attempt to bring down a plane. The operation is poorly funded, only involves one person, and has weak ties (at best) to an international terror organization.
But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.
We spend as much on military than the rest of the world combined, but now we will have to spend more (and go deeper into debt) in order to make us safe, correct?
If these terrorists are really such a threat, why couldn’t they provide this guy with a better bomb?
December 28, 2009 at 1:39 PM #498356AnonymousGuest[quote=NeetaT]”Abdulmutallab was released from a hospital […]”
Look everyone; I guess healthcare is a right![/quote]
What part of the news release says that the medical bill will be paid by the state?
But there’s a more important fiscal issue here:
Every few years some crackpot makes an amateur attempt to bring down a plane. The operation is poorly funded, only involves one person, and has weak ties (at best) to an international terror organization.
But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.
We spend as much on military than the rest of the world combined, but now we will have to spend more (and go deeper into debt) in order to make us safe, correct?
If these terrorists are really such a threat, why couldn’t they provide this guy with a better bomb?
December 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM #497482aldanteParticipant1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)
2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices
3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).
4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers
Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like.
If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.[/quote]
Urban,
The topic is whether or not healthcare is a right. I did not see anything that you wrote telling us why you think it is a right. You are way far a field. I think another thread on what the Constitution movement or the tea party movement would be appropriate.You are welcome to look at campaignforliberty.com for information as well. My view is that the lack of solidarity is more a symptom of any new movement. The ideas that you listed are part of those ideas. The problem is that any neo-con who benefited from the big government is trying to foist his/her identity on this movement and any identiy crisis is from the outside – not the inside. It is a new movement and the degree to which it takes hold is the degree to which people want tostand up for thier freedom.
I do an am. Voting is only a small part of the equation. Getting candidates who truely represent the freedom movement is the hardest and takes the longest.
Still hoping to convert you.
December 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM #497635aldanteParticipant1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)
2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices
3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).
4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers
Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like.
If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.[/quote]
Urban,
The topic is whether or not healthcare is a right. I did not see anything that you wrote telling us why you think it is a right. You are way far a field. I think another thread on what the Constitution movement or the tea party movement would be appropriate.You are welcome to look at campaignforliberty.com for information as well. My view is that the lack of solidarity is more a symptom of any new movement. The ideas that you listed are part of those ideas. The problem is that any neo-con who benefited from the big government is trying to foist his/her identity on this movement and any identiy crisis is from the outside – not the inside. It is a new movement and the degree to which it takes hold is the degree to which people want tostand up for thier freedom.
I do an am. Voting is only a small part of the equation. Getting candidates who truely represent the freedom movement is the hardest and takes the longest.
Still hoping to convert you.
December 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM #498026aldanteParticipant1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)
2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices
3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).
4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers
Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like.
If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.[/quote]
Urban,
The topic is whether or not healthcare is a right. I did not see anything that you wrote telling us why you think it is a right. You are way far a field. I think another thread on what the Constitution movement or the tea party movement would be appropriate.You are welcome to look at campaignforliberty.com for information as well. My view is that the lack of solidarity is more a symptom of any new movement. The ideas that you listed are part of those ideas. The problem is that any neo-con who benefited from the big government is trying to foist his/her identity on this movement and any identiy crisis is from the outside – not the inside. It is a new movement and the degree to which it takes hold is the degree to which people want tostand up for thier freedom.
I do an am. Voting is only a small part of the equation. Getting candidates who truely represent the freedom movement is the hardest and takes the longest.
Still hoping to convert you.
December 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM #498119aldanteParticipant1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)
2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices
3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).
4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers
Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like.
If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.[/quote]
Urban,
The topic is whether or not healthcare is a right. I did not see anything that you wrote telling us why you think it is a right. You are way far a field. I think another thread on what the Constitution movement or the tea party movement would be appropriate.You are welcome to look at campaignforliberty.com for information as well. My view is that the lack of solidarity is more a symptom of any new movement. The ideas that you listed are part of those ideas. The problem is that any neo-con who benefited from the big government is trying to foist his/her identity on this movement and any identiy crisis is from the outside – not the inside. It is a new movement and the degree to which it takes hold is the degree to which people want tostand up for thier freedom.
I do an am. Voting is only a small part of the equation. Getting candidates who truely represent the freedom movement is the hardest and takes the longest.
Still hoping to convert you.
December 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM #498366aldanteParticipant1:They feel they are being taxed unfairly (hence the cheesy borrowing from the sons of liberty)
2:They are usually, though not exclusively, critical of current government spending practices
3:They oppose “wealth redistribution” (see 1 and 2).
4:They are disillusioned at the current lineup of of government decision-makers
Is this set of common characteristics inaccurate?
[quote=aldante]People like me did not lose an election – we believe that our country is being lost. [/quote]I get that the government is doing things you don’t like.
If you really have the courage of your convictions and if you feel that the president is destroying the country, then for fuck’s sake do something other than rip off a legitimate revolution. Load a truck with explosives or storm the capital or rape Hank Greenberg’s dog or something.Or you can admit you are just like every other American and vote.[/quote]
Urban,
The topic is whether or not healthcare is a right. I did not see anything that you wrote telling us why you think it is a right. You are way far a field. I think another thread on what the Constitution movement or the tea party movement would be appropriate.You are welcome to look at campaignforliberty.com for information as well. My view is that the lack of solidarity is more a symptom of any new movement. The ideas that you listed are part of those ideas. The problem is that any neo-con who benefited from the big government is trying to foist his/her identity on this movement and any identiy crisis is from the outside – not the inside. It is a new movement and the degree to which it takes hold is the degree to which people want tostand up for thier freedom.
I do an am. Voting is only a small part of the equation. Getting candidates who truely represent the freedom movement is the hardest and takes the longest.
Still hoping to convert you.
December 28, 2009 at 2:05 PM #497487NeetaTParticipant“But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.”
I’m retired “SOF” and frankly I can’t see enough of these idiots die. I will proudly support a bellicose nation.
December 28, 2009 at 2:05 PM #497641NeetaTParticipant“But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.”
I’m retired “SOF” and frankly I can’t see enough of these idiots die. I will proudly support a bellicose nation.
December 28, 2009 at 2:05 PM #498031NeetaTParticipant“But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.”
I’m retired “SOF” and frankly I can’t see enough of these idiots die. I will proudly support a bellicose nation.
December 28, 2009 at 2:05 PM #498124NeetaTParticipant“But the incident will be used as justification to spend hundreds of billions of dollars — many times more than the proposed health care bill — because we must defeat our powerful enemies.”
I’m retired “SOF” and frankly I can’t see enough of these idiots die. I will proudly support a bellicose nation.
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