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April 20, 2010 at 10:00 AM #541846April 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM #540939briansd1Guest
Do you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?
April 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM #541054briansd1GuestDo you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?
April 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM #541503briansd1GuestDo you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?
April 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM #541592briansd1GuestDo you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?
April 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM #541855briansd1GuestDo you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?
April 20, 2010 at 10:09 AM #540944Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=patb]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.[/quote]
Pat: Utter gibberish and utterly divorced from reality.
Goldman had NO counterparty risk with AIG at all. Their position was nearly fully collateralized through cash and securities and the balance was covered by insurance (in the form of CDS).
You might want to assemble the actual facts before weighing in on a topic.
April 20, 2010 at 10:09 AM #541059Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=patb]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.[/quote]
Pat: Utter gibberish and utterly divorced from reality.
Goldman had NO counterparty risk with AIG at all. Their position was nearly fully collateralized through cash and securities and the balance was covered by insurance (in the form of CDS).
You might want to assemble the actual facts before weighing in on a topic.
April 20, 2010 at 10:09 AM #541508Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=patb]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.[/quote]
Pat: Utter gibberish and utterly divorced from reality.
Goldman had NO counterparty risk with AIG at all. Their position was nearly fully collateralized through cash and securities and the balance was covered by insurance (in the form of CDS).
You might want to assemble the actual facts before weighing in on a topic.
April 20, 2010 at 10:09 AM #541597Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=patb]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.[/quote]
Pat: Utter gibberish and utterly divorced from reality.
Goldman had NO counterparty risk with AIG at all. Their position was nearly fully collateralized through cash and securities and the balance was covered by insurance (in the form of CDS).
You might want to assemble the actual facts before weighing in on a topic.
April 20, 2010 at 10:09 AM #541860Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=patb]
Had AIG declared Chapter 11, the court could have
pulled all that back and more.Goldman was very vulnerable to AIG, and had Paulsen not gone in and paid all AIG CDS at Face, Goldman would have choked.[/quote]
Pat: Utter gibberish and utterly divorced from reality.
Goldman had NO counterparty risk with AIG at all. Their position was nearly fully collateralized through cash and securities and the balance was covered by insurance (in the form of CDS).
You might want to assemble the actual facts before weighing in on a topic.
April 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM #540948Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1]Do you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?[/quote]
Brian: You might want to check the SEC’s track record on litigation before getting overly excited about this.
Also, there is a huge difference between civil fraud and criminal fraud, hence your comparison between Goldman and Andersen is inapt. The differences between Enron and Goldman are huge. Not defending Goldman, mind, simply pointing out the facts.
April 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM #541064Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1]Do you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?[/quote]
Brian: You might want to check the SEC’s track record on litigation before getting overly excited about this.
Also, there is a huge difference between civil fraud and criminal fraud, hence your comparison between Goldman and Andersen is inapt. The differences between Enron and Goldman are huge. Not defending Goldman, mind, simply pointing out the facts.
April 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM #541513Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1]Do you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?[/quote]
Brian: You might want to check the SEC’s track record on litigation before getting overly excited about this.
Also, there is a huge difference between civil fraud and criminal fraud, hence your comparison between Goldman and Andersen is inapt. The differences between Enron and Goldman are huge. Not defending Goldman, mind, simply pointing out the facts.
April 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM #541601Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1]Do you really believe that an SEC lawsuit is just lip service?
A lawsuit consumes a lot of executive time and company resources, and can certainly bring down a company. Remember what happened to Anthur Anderson when it was found guilty?[/quote]
Brian: You might want to check the SEC’s track record on litigation before getting overly excited about this.
Also, there is a huge difference between civil fraud and criminal fraud, hence your comparison between Goldman and Andersen is inapt. The differences between Enron and Goldman are huge. Not defending Goldman, mind, simply pointing out the facts.
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