Harveston down the drain

[temeculaguy]

It’s very likely I missed one, I don’t always read the newspaper but I did mention the one in an apartment complex, that was the follow home from Harrahs by the fallbrook gang member. The other one you mentioned doesn’t stat as a murder just yet because she is in the hospital and don’t dramatize it with “left to die” people called the police and ambulance right away. The synopsis is that two boys were fighting over her, she tried to intervene, got pushed or hit, hit her head on the curb and is now on life support, tragedy, but hardly something that can attributed to a specific area, these things happen, high school boys fight every day, I did and I grew up in one of the nicest places known and even as a boy I remember a kid who got into a high school fight, got hit once and somehow died. But we didn’t pack up and move because it was unsafe for me to be raised there.

Do what you like, move somewhere else, I don’t care, but it would be irrational. Is Sabre springs/Scripps unsafe because of the Westerfield case? In reality it is probably safer now, but in the months that followed people moved out because of fear and there were bargains to be had in that neighborhood. How about Rancho Santa Fe after Heavans Gate, the worst mass suicide in the country’s history? Does it make you fear you will join a cult and kill yourself? Or Brentwood after O.J. Simpson. You have to look at cases specifically and realize the risk factors. No matter where you live, if you have a crazy spouse or ex-spouse, or a crazy relative who owns a gun, isn’t taking their medication and is mad at you, it really doesn’t matter where you live. Since almost every case that has you worried has some sort of domestic angle and 4 of the cases was a single event, be careful who you live with rather than where you live.

I also won’t argue that during my almost 20 years here, it hasn’t gotten worse or at least the volume hasn’t risen. When there were 30k people here, there was less to read about. Now that the valley has more than 300k, 100k in Temecula city limits alone. It would seem like there are ten times more incidents,there should be, but that isn’t how you measure risk, you measure crimes per thousand residents, not totals.

[paramount]

If a person knocks another person down, and the person knocked down is unconscious/not breathing as a result and the perp then leaves the scene with no other persons around – that comes under the category of left to die IMO. It just so happened a neighbor not involved in the incident came to her aid.

That neighbor also stated there had been more graffiti on community walls among other incidents. I’m calling for a crackdown on crime in Temecula – including gang activity before it gets out of control.

Two summers ago Paloma Del Sol was on lock down for ~ 2hours due to gang activity. I’ve had enough – zero tolerance.

And just for the record – I don’t care that you don’t care. Unlike some other wack jobs on this forum, I appreciate your comments but don’t worship TG.

[paramount]

If a person knocks another person down, and the person knocked down is unconscious/not breathing as a result and the perp then leaves the scene with no other persons around – that comes under the category of left to die IMO. It just so happened a neighbor not involved in the incident came to her aid.

That neighbor also stated there had been more graffiti on community walls among other incidents. I’m calling for a crackdown on crime in Temecula – including gang activity before it gets out of control.

Two summers ago Paloma Del Sol was on lock down for ~ 2hours due to gang activity. I’ve had enough – zero tolerance.

And just for the record – I don’t care that you don’t care. Unlike some other wack jobs on this forum, I appreciate your comments but don’t worship TG.

[paramount]

If a person knocks another person down, and the person knocked down is unconscious/not breathing as a result and the perp then leaves the scene with no other persons around – that comes under the category of left to die IMO. It just so happened a neighbor not involved in the incident came to her aid.

That neighbor also stated there had been more graffiti on community walls among other incidents. I’m calling for a crackdown on crime in Temecula – including gang activity before it gets out of control.

Two summers ago Paloma Del Sol was on lock down for ~ 2hours due to gang activity. I’ve had enough – zero tolerance.

And just for the record – I don’t care that you don’t care. Unlike some other wack jobs on this forum, I appreciate your comments but don’t worship TG.

[paramount]

If a person knocks another person down, and the person knocked down is unconscious/not breathing as a result and the perp then leaves the scene with no other persons around – that comes under the category of left to die IMO. It just so happened a neighbor not involved in the incident came to her aid.

That neighbor also stated there had been more graffiti on community walls among other incidents. I’m calling for a crackdown on crime in Temecula – including gang activity before it gets out of control.

Two summers ago Paloma Del Sol was on lock down for ~ 2hours due to gang activity. I’ve had enough – zero tolerance.

And just for the record – I don’t care that you don’t care. Unlike some other wack jobs on this forum, I appreciate your comments but don’t worship TG.

[paramount]

If a person knocks another person down, and the person knocked down is unconscious/not breathing as a result and the perp then leaves the scene with no other persons around – that comes under the category of left to die IMO. It just so happened a neighbor not involved in the incident came to her aid.

That neighbor also stated there had been more graffiti on community walls among other incidents. I’m calling for a crackdown on crime in Temecula – including gang activity before it gets out of control.

Two summers ago Paloma Del Sol was on lock down for ~ 2hours due to gang activity. I’ve had enough – zero tolerance.

And just for the record – I don’t care that you don’t care. Unlike some other wack jobs on this forum, I appreciate your comments but don’t worship TG.

[hipmatt]

I have lived in Temecula since 1990. Yes it was a smaller town then, but crime has gotten much worse since then. It is still a safe community, relative to other areas, but not like it was 18 years ago. Seems like there is a bank robbery in the valley once a month these days. My home in Harveston was vandalized, and vehicle theft has risen dramatically as well.

I knew one of the murder victims personally you were talking about in the murder/suicide, and while it didn’t have anything to do with gangs or the local environment, there have been more of these events lately. There was a mans body found somewhere by Jack in the Box on Jefferson within the last year. Some friends I know that work loss prevention at 2 different large box retailers in Temecula have told me that theft is up. Fraud and counterfeiting is up too. And since I don’t visit Pechanga and Pala, but twice a year or so, I haven’t been keeping up on the casino related crime, but to speculate, I bet that they keep most of that bad stuff under the carpet. Bad PR for those places would result in BIG losses for the casinos. I have seen a big brawl once at round bar (Pechanga)though.

Lately, I have lost some faith in the local PD’s ability to perform their duties.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/09/news/californian/temecula/21_79_342_8_08.txt
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/temecula-ca/TCF22JT07ETMI4H9D
http://www.pe.com/localnews/temecula/stories/PE_News_Local_S_sdead15.326a8db.html

[hipmatt]

I have lived in Temecula since 1990. Yes it was a smaller town then, but crime has gotten much worse since then. It is still a safe community, relative to other areas, but not like it was 18 years ago. Seems like there is a bank robbery in the valley once a month these days. My home in Harveston was vandalized, and vehicle theft has risen dramatically as well.

I knew one of the murder victims personally you were talking about in the murder/suicide, and while it didn’t have anything to do with gangs or the local environment, there have been more of these events lately. There was a mans body found somewhere by Jack in the Box on Jefferson within the last year. Some friends I know that work loss prevention at 2 different large box retailers in Temecula have told me that theft is up. Fraud and counterfeiting is up too. And since I don’t visit Pechanga and Pala, but twice a year or so, I haven’t been keeping up on the casino related crime, but to speculate, I bet that they keep most of that bad stuff under the carpet. Bad PR for those places would result in BIG losses for the casinos. I have seen a big brawl once at round bar (Pechanga)though.

Lately, I have lost some faith in the local PD’s ability to perform their duties.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/09/news/californian/temecula/21_79_342_8_08.txt
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/temecula-ca/TCF22JT07ETMI4H9D
http://www.pe.com/localnews/temecula/stories/PE_News_Local_S_sdead15.326a8db.html

[hipmatt]

I have lived in Temecula since 1990. Yes it was a smaller town then, but crime has gotten much worse since then. It is still a safe community, relative to other areas, but not like it was 18 years ago. Seems like there is a bank robbery in the valley once a month these days. My home in Harveston was vandalized, and vehicle theft has risen dramatically as well.

I knew one of the murder victims personally you were talking about in the murder/suicide, and while it didn’t have anything to do with gangs or the local environment, there have been more of these events lately. There was a mans body found somewhere by Jack in the Box on Jefferson within the last year. Some friends I know that work loss prevention at 2 different large box retailers in Temecula have told me that theft is up. Fraud and counterfeiting is up too. And since I don’t visit Pechanga and Pala, but twice a year or so, I haven’t been keeping up on the casino related crime, but to speculate, I bet that they keep most of that bad stuff under the carpet. Bad PR for those places would result in BIG losses for the casinos. I have seen a big brawl once at round bar (Pechanga)though.

Lately, I have lost some faith in the local PD’s ability to perform their duties.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/09/news/californian/temecula/21_79_342_8_08.txt
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/temecula-ca/TCF22JT07ETMI4H9D
http://www.pe.com/localnews/temecula/stories/PE_News_Local_S_sdead15.326a8db.html

[hipmatt]

I have lived in Temecula since 1990. Yes it was a smaller town then, but crime has gotten much worse since then. It is still a safe community, relative to other areas, but not like it was 18 years ago. Seems like there is a bank robbery in the valley once a month these days. My home in Harveston was vandalized, and vehicle theft has risen dramatically as well.

I knew one of the murder victims personally you were talking about in the murder/suicide, and while it didn’t have anything to do with gangs or the local environment, there have been more of these events lately. There was a mans body found somewhere by Jack in the Box on Jefferson within the last year. Some friends I know that work loss prevention at 2 different large box retailers in Temecula have told me that theft is up. Fraud and counterfeiting is up too. And since I don’t visit Pechanga and Pala, but twice a year or so, I haven’t been keeping up on the casino related crime, but to speculate, I bet that they keep most of that bad stuff under the carpet. Bad PR for those places would result in BIG losses for the casinos. I have seen a big brawl once at round bar (Pechanga)though.

Lately, I have lost some faith in the local PD’s ability to perform their duties.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/09/news/californian/temecula/21_79_342_8_08.txt
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/temecula-ca/TCF22JT07ETMI4H9D
http://www.pe.com/localnews/temecula/stories/PE_News_Local_S_sdead15.326a8db.html

[hipmatt]

I have lived in Temecula since 1990. Yes it was a smaller town then, but crime has gotten much worse since then. It is still a safe community, relative to other areas, but not like it was 18 years ago. Seems like there is a bank robbery in the valley once a month these days. My home in Harveston was vandalized, and vehicle theft has risen dramatically as well.

I knew one of the murder victims personally you were talking about in the murder/suicide, and while it didn’t have anything to do with gangs or the local environment, there have been more of these events lately. There was a mans body found somewhere by Jack in the Box on Jefferson within the last year. Some friends I know that work loss prevention at 2 different large box retailers in Temecula have told me that theft is up. Fraud and counterfeiting is up too. And since I don’t visit Pechanga and Pala, but twice a year or so, I haven’t been keeping up on the casino related crime, but to speculate, I bet that they keep most of that bad stuff under the carpet. Bad PR for those places would result in BIG losses for the casinos. I have seen a big brawl once at round bar (Pechanga)though.

Lately, I have lost some faith in the local PD’s ability to perform their duties.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/02/09/news/californian/temecula/21_79_342_8_08.txt
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/temecula-ca/TCF22JT07ETMI4H9D
http://www.pe.com/localnews/temecula/stories/PE_News_Local_S_sdead15.326a8db.html

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Do you think the market isn’t falling?

[waiting for bottom]

This is for the guy (Nor_LA_SD Guy) who was questioned the $530K SEH house going in to escrow. Next time you acuse me of providing misleading info, check your facts.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-081009826-1085_Brightwood_San_Marcos_CA_92078

Or this one bought for $944K in 2005 now selling for $650K.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-086008651-1508_Clifftop_Ave_San_Marcos_CA_92078

Do you think the market isn’t falling?

[waiting for bottom]

This is for the guy (Nor_LA_SD Guy) who was questioned the $530K SEH house going in to escrow. Next time you acuse me of providing misleading info, check your facts.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-081009826-1085_Brightwood_San_Marcos_CA_92078

Or this one bought for $944K in 2005 now selling for $650K.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-086008651-1508_Clifftop_Ave_San_Marcos_CA_92078

Do you think the market isn’t falling?

[waiting for bottom]

This is for the guy (Nor_LA_SD Guy) who was questioned the $530K SEH house going in to escrow. Next time you acuse me of providing misleading info, check your facts.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-081009826-1085_Brightwood_San_Marcos_CA_92078

Or this one bought for $944K in 2005 now selling for $650K.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-086008651-1508_Clifftop_Ave_San_Marcos_CA_92078

Do you think the market isn’t falling?

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