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October 1, 2008 at 7:59 AM #279024October 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM #278729LA_RenterParticipant
I agree with SD Realtor the Fannie and Freddie thing has Democratic hands all over it so we can safely lay blame on both parties. It is tempting to blame Bush for everything, most of that has something to do with anger over foreign policy. Here is critique of the Bush administration in the form of a letter to Obama from Bill Gross at Pimco, a long time registered Republican.
“Dear President Obama:
You have inherited a mess. Your predecessor, fixated on emulating a former Republican icon from a far different economic era, chose to emphasize tax cuts for the rich and excessive consumption for all Americans. He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love. Over eight years, he failed to put forth a coherent energy policy. He needlessly invaded Iraq and lowered worldwide esteem for this nation as a symbol of freedom and benevolence.”
http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2008/IO+July+2008.htm
It is this part that stands out to me
“He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love.”
It pains me to read this because I am an independent that leans Libertarian. The words free markets and deregulation always had positive connotations to me. It seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Now whether you like it or not Laissez-faire capitalism is now officially on trial. I guess its the result of the whole melt down of the western financial credit market thing. Fair enough. My fear is that the pendulum swings too far back the other way into Keynesian economics. Read Republican Bill Gross’s letter to Obama and its pretty much suggesting pump-priming of cutting taxes, increasing government borrowing, and spending during an economic down-turn which is classic Keynesian economics or better known as Stagflation. There has to be a better way to all this.
October 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM #278994LA_RenterParticipantI agree with SD Realtor the Fannie and Freddie thing has Democratic hands all over it so we can safely lay blame on both parties. It is tempting to blame Bush for everything, most of that has something to do with anger over foreign policy. Here is critique of the Bush administration in the form of a letter to Obama from Bill Gross at Pimco, a long time registered Republican.
“Dear President Obama:
You have inherited a mess. Your predecessor, fixated on emulating a former Republican icon from a far different economic era, chose to emphasize tax cuts for the rich and excessive consumption for all Americans. He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love. Over eight years, he failed to put forth a coherent energy policy. He needlessly invaded Iraq and lowered worldwide esteem for this nation as a symbol of freedom and benevolence.”
http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2008/IO+July+2008.htm
It is this part that stands out to me
“He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love.”
It pains me to read this because I am an independent that leans Libertarian. The words free markets and deregulation always had positive connotations to me. It seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Now whether you like it or not Laissez-faire capitalism is now officially on trial. I guess its the result of the whole melt down of the western financial credit market thing. Fair enough. My fear is that the pendulum swings too far back the other way into Keynesian economics. Read Republican Bill Gross’s letter to Obama and its pretty much suggesting pump-priming of cutting taxes, increasing government borrowing, and spending during an economic down-turn which is classic Keynesian economics or better known as Stagflation. There has to be a better way to all this.
October 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM #279006LA_RenterParticipantI agree with SD Realtor the Fannie and Freddie thing has Democratic hands all over it so we can safely lay blame on both parties. It is tempting to blame Bush for everything, most of that has something to do with anger over foreign policy. Here is critique of the Bush administration in the form of a letter to Obama from Bill Gross at Pimco, a long time registered Republican.
“Dear President Obama:
You have inherited a mess. Your predecessor, fixated on emulating a former Republican icon from a far different economic era, chose to emphasize tax cuts for the rich and excessive consumption for all Americans. He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love. Over eight years, he failed to put forth a coherent energy policy. He needlessly invaded Iraq and lowered worldwide esteem for this nation as a symbol of freedom and benevolence.”
http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2008/IO+July+2008.htm
It is this part that stands out to me
“He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love.”
It pains me to read this because I am an independent that leans Libertarian. The words free markets and deregulation always had positive connotations to me. It seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Now whether you like it or not Laissez-faire capitalism is now officially on trial. I guess its the result of the whole melt down of the western financial credit market thing. Fair enough. My fear is that the pendulum swings too far back the other way into Keynesian economics. Read Republican Bill Gross’s letter to Obama and its pretty much suggesting pump-priming of cutting taxes, increasing government borrowing, and spending during an economic down-turn which is classic Keynesian economics or better known as Stagflation. There has to be a better way to all this.
October 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM #279043LA_RenterParticipantI agree with SD Realtor the Fannie and Freddie thing has Democratic hands all over it so we can safely lay blame on both parties. It is tempting to blame Bush for everything, most of that has something to do with anger over foreign policy. Here is critique of the Bush administration in the form of a letter to Obama from Bill Gross at Pimco, a long time registered Republican.
“Dear President Obama:
You have inherited a mess. Your predecessor, fixated on emulating a former Republican icon from a far different economic era, chose to emphasize tax cuts for the rich and excessive consumption for all Americans. He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love. Over eight years, he failed to put forth a coherent energy policy. He needlessly invaded Iraq and lowered worldwide esteem for this nation as a symbol of freedom and benevolence.”
http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2008/IO+July+2008.htm
It is this part that stands out to me
“He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love.”
It pains me to read this because I am an independent that leans Libertarian. The words free markets and deregulation always had positive connotations to me. It seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Now whether you like it or not Laissez-faire capitalism is now officially on trial. I guess its the result of the whole melt down of the western financial credit market thing. Fair enough. My fear is that the pendulum swings too far back the other way into Keynesian economics. Read Republican Bill Gross’s letter to Obama and its pretty much suggesting pump-priming of cutting taxes, increasing government borrowing, and spending during an economic down-turn which is classic Keynesian economics or better known as Stagflation. There has to be a better way to all this.
October 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM #279054LA_RenterParticipantI agree with SD Realtor the Fannie and Freddie thing has Democratic hands all over it so we can safely lay blame on both parties. It is tempting to blame Bush for everything, most of that has something to do with anger over foreign policy. Here is critique of the Bush administration in the form of a letter to Obama from Bill Gross at Pimco, a long time registered Republican.
“Dear President Obama:
You have inherited a mess. Your predecessor, fixated on emulating a former Republican icon from a far different economic era, chose to emphasize tax cuts for the rich and excessive consumption for all Americans. He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love. Over eight years, he failed to put forth a coherent energy policy. He needlessly invaded Iraq and lowered worldwide esteem for this nation as a symbol of freedom and benevolence.”
http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/IO/2008/IO+July+2008.htm
It is this part that stands out to me
“He promoted deregulation and free markets when, in fact, the markets and their institutions needed tough love.”
It pains me to read this because I am an independent that leans Libertarian. The words free markets and deregulation always had positive connotations to me. It seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Now whether you like it or not Laissez-faire capitalism is now officially on trial. I guess its the result of the whole melt down of the western financial credit market thing. Fair enough. My fear is that the pendulum swings too far back the other way into Keynesian economics. Read Republican Bill Gross’s letter to Obama and its pretty much suggesting pump-priming of cutting taxes, increasing government borrowing, and spending during an economic down-turn which is classic Keynesian economics or better known as Stagflation. There has to be a better way to all this.
October 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM #278744TheBreezeParticipantIt seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Pssst…hey LA_Renter, the Republicans had majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate from 2002-2006. Please show me the law that the Democrats passed that allowed the GSEs to go crazy with loose underwriting, thus causing the housing bubble.
This may surprise you, but I lean libertarian myself. However, unlike you, I don’t evaluate the parties based on their slogans. Instead, I dig deeper and look at what each party has actually done.
October 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM #279009TheBreezeParticipantIt seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Pssst…hey LA_Renter, the Republicans had majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate from 2002-2006. Please show me the law that the Democrats passed that allowed the GSEs to go crazy with loose underwriting, thus causing the housing bubble.
This may surprise you, but I lean libertarian myself. However, unlike you, I don’t evaluate the parties based on their slogans. Instead, I dig deeper and look at what each party has actually done.
October 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM #279021TheBreezeParticipantIt seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Pssst…hey LA_Renter, the Republicans had majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate from 2002-2006. Please show me the law that the Democrats passed that allowed the GSEs to go crazy with loose underwriting, thus causing the housing bubble.
This may surprise you, but I lean libertarian myself. However, unlike you, I don’t evaluate the parties based on their slogans. Instead, I dig deeper and look at what each party has actually done.
October 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM #279058TheBreezeParticipantIt seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Pssst…hey LA_Renter, the Republicans had majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate from 2002-2006. Please show me the law that the Democrats passed that allowed the GSEs to go crazy with loose underwriting, thus causing the housing bubble.
This may surprise you, but I lean libertarian myself. However, unlike you, I don’t evaluate the parties based on their slogans. Instead, I dig deeper and look at what each party has actually done.
October 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM #279069TheBreezeParticipantIt seems to me that many of the seeds of loose lending standards rest with the Democrats, allowing financial institutions to leverage 30, 40 50 times, rest with the MO of this administration. The result was a perfect storm of handing out bad loans and leveraging them to the hilt.
Pssst…hey LA_Renter, the Republicans had majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate from 2002-2006. Please show me the law that the Democrats passed that allowed the GSEs to go crazy with loose underwriting, thus causing the housing bubble.
This may surprise you, but I lean libertarian myself. However, unlike you, I don’t evaluate the parties based on their slogans. Instead, I dig deeper and look at what each party has actually done.
October 1, 2008 at 8:55 AM #278753ArrayaParticipantLets not forget Greenspan’s call to ARM’s in 2004.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/fed/2004-02-23-greenspan-debt_x.htm
Greenspan says ARMs might be better deal
By Sue Kirchhoff and Barbara Hagenbaugh, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said Monday that Americans’ preference for long-term, fixed-rate mortgages means many are paying more than necessary for their homes and suggested consumers would benefit if lenders offered more alternatives.
In a standing-room-only speech to the Credit Union National Association meeting here, Greenspan also said U.S. household finances appeared generally sound, despite rising debt levels and bankruptcy filings. Low interest rates and surging home prices have given consumers flexibility to manage debt, he said.“Overall, the household sector seems to be in good shape,” Greenspan said. HAHA 2004 we were way into bubble territory.
Same article a Bush appointee pushing risky loans on low income buyers.
Joseph McKenzie, deputy chief economist at the Federal Housing Finance Board, says buyers like the stability of fixed-rate mortgages, but there is increasing flexibility in products. “There are lots of innovative programs, especially targeting low-income and first-time buyers,” he says
*This article was practically an advertisement.
October 1, 2008 at 8:55 AM #279020ArrayaParticipantLets not forget Greenspan’s call to ARM’s in 2004.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/fed/2004-02-23-greenspan-debt_x.htm
Greenspan says ARMs might be better deal
By Sue Kirchhoff and Barbara Hagenbaugh, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said Monday that Americans’ preference for long-term, fixed-rate mortgages means many are paying more than necessary for their homes and suggested consumers would benefit if lenders offered more alternatives.
In a standing-room-only speech to the Credit Union National Association meeting here, Greenspan also said U.S. household finances appeared generally sound, despite rising debt levels and bankruptcy filings. Low interest rates and surging home prices have given consumers flexibility to manage debt, he said.“Overall, the household sector seems to be in good shape,” Greenspan said. HAHA 2004 we were way into bubble territory.
Same article a Bush appointee pushing risky loans on low income buyers.
Joseph McKenzie, deputy chief economist at the Federal Housing Finance Board, says buyers like the stability of fixed-rate mortgages, but there is increasing flexibility in products. “There are lots of innovative programs, especially targeting low-income and first-time buyers,” he says
*This article was practically an advertisement.
October 1, 2008 at 8:55 AM #279031ArrayaParticipantLets not forget Greenspan’s call to ARM’s in 2004.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/fed/2004-02-23-greenspan-debt_x.htm
Greenspan says ARMs might be better deal
By Sue Kirchhoff and Barbara Hagenbaugh, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said Monday that Americans’ preference for long-term, fixed-rate mortgages means many are paying more than necessary for their homes and suggested consumers would benefit if lenders offered more alternatives.
In a standing-room-only speech to the Credit Union National Association meeting here, Greenspan also said U.S. household finances appeared generally sound, despite rising debt levels and bankruptcy filings. Low interest rates and surging home prices have given consumers flexibility to manage debt, he said.“Overall, the household sector seems to be in good shape,” Greenspan said. HAHA 2004 we were way into bubble territory.
Same article a Bush appointee pushing risky loans on low income buyers.
Joseph McKenzie, deputy chief economist at the Federal Housing Finance Board, says buyers like the stability of fixed-rate mortgages, but there is increasing flexibility in products. “There are lots of innovative programs, especially targeting low-income and first-time buyers,” he says
*This article was practically an advertisement.
October 1, 2008 at 8:55 AM #279068ArrayaParticipantLets not forget Greenspan’s call to ARM’s in 2004.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/fed/2004-02-23-greenspan-debt_x.htm
Greenspan says ARMs might be better deal
By Sue Kirchhoff and Barbara Hagenbaugh, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said Monday that Americans’ preference for long-term, fixed-rate mortgages means many are paying more than necessary for their homes and suggested consumers would benefit if lenders offered more alternatives.
In a standing-room-only speech to the Credit Union National Association meeting here, Greenspan also said U.S. household finances appeared generally sound, despite rising debt levels and bankruptcy filings. Low interest rates and surging home prices have given consumers flexibility to manage debt, he said.“Overall, the household sector seems to be in good shape,” Greenspan said. HAHA 2004 we were way into bubble territory.
Same article a Bush appointee pushing risky loans on low income buyers.
Joseph McKenzie, deputy chief economist at the Federal Housing Finance Board, says buyers like the stability of fixed-rate mortgages, but there is increasing flexibility in products. “There are lots of innovative programs, especially targeting low-income and first-time buyers,” he says
*This article was practically an advertisement.
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