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July 17, 2021 at 9:50 AM #822538July 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM #822545EscoguyParticipant
[quote=deadzone][quote=sdrealtor]So here is some data for EP.
My hometown of Cherry Hill NJ has a median HH income of $105K. It has demographics similar to Carlsbad, top rated schools and healthcare. Its an easy one hour drive to lovely Jersey Shore towns. Its an easy 15 minute drive to Philadephia with great jobs, multiple teaching hospitals some of which rank among the best in the country and Ivy League schools nearby. They have professional sports and world class musuems and theatre in Philly. School funding is among the highest in the country. The median home price is $336K.
The median HH income in St George is under $50K. It has none of that. School funding is among the lowest in the country. The only university was recentlya two year associate degree college. No theatre, no international airport, no teaching hospitals, no major industries, no pro sports, no beaches, no culture or diversity. The median home price is $430K.
And you dont think you just bought into one big time bubble that will come crashing down as soon as the economy turns? You have bought into Hemet circa 2005.[/quote]
You make some good points sdr but come on, lay off the guy. He is going there to retire and live out his golden years among like minded people. Don’t think he cares if the RE bubble bursts in St George. If it bursts there it will be due to the everything bubble bursting anyway (obviously it will crush St George far worse than SD or other areas granted).[/quote]
Drought, now floods: I hope everyone stays safe but with an eye on Germany, some forces of nature can be very impactful:
July 23, 2021 at 7:49 AM #822587DataAgentParticipantMy wife and I are now almost 70 years old. Back around 2018, I looked all over the west coast for a cheaper place to retire. When we discovered the strong influence of the Mormon church on the St George area, St George was was quickly removed from our list. My wife and I are very anti-organized religion. When we learned that about 75% of the permanent residents were Mormon, St George didn’t make the first cut.
My wife and I have been married for over 45 years. We grew up over 2000 miles apart. We met in the US Air Force. From Day 1, we were planning our retirement. Our families were very poor and gave us nothing to start with. So money was our biggest initial concern. We got very lucky in the business world and we always loved San Diego. Once we made it here, we’re not leaving. We hate the high cost of living in San Diego but we’re staying put. No other major west coast city comes close to the amenities and personality of San Diego.
As an ex-CPA, our current assets should carry us well into our 90s. I really hate blowing our money on the CA economy but there’s no place like home.
July 23, 2021 at 9:18 AM #822588flyerParticipantThat is a great story. Congratulations on your success. Although we enjoy living various places, we’ll always keep property here also, and so will our kids, for as long as we all have left on earth. Since my wife and I were actually born and raised here, there really is no place like home for us and our large extended family.
To each his or her own regarding “beliefs,” but agree that not being of the Mormon faith, and living in Utah, could be a challenge, but for those who embrace those beliefs, it’s the perfect spot.
We all make different choices in life for various reasons, and, as long we’re each happy with our choices, that’s what really matters. That’s why I don’t find it necessary to criticize others, just because they have made choices I would never make. In the final analysis, beliefs or no beliefs, all life on earth is temporary.
July 23, 2021 at 11:18 AM #822589sdrealtorParticipantWould’ve been easier to say nice story, now let me tell mine again for the 1300th time because after all it is all about me
July 23, 2021 at 2:10 PM #822590sdrealtorParticipant[quote=DataAgent]My wife and I are now almost 70 years old. Back around 2018, I looked all over the west coast for a cheaper place to retire. When we discovered the strong influence of the Mormon church on the St George area, St George was was quickly removed from our list. My wife and I are very anti-organized religion. When we learned that about 75% of the permanent residents were Mormon, St George didn’t make the first cut.
My wife and I have been married for over 45 years. We grew up over 2000 miles apart. We met in the US Air Force. From Day 1, we were planning our retirement. Our families were very poor and gave us nothing to start with. So money was our biggest initial concern. We got very lucky in the business world and we always loved San Diego. Once we made it here, we’re not leaving. We hate the high cost of living in San Diego but we’re staying put. No other major west coast city comes close to the amenities and personality of San Diego.
As an ex-CPA, our current assets should carry us well into our 90s. I really hate blowing our money on the CA economy but there’s no place like home.[/quote]
Imagine that! Living the place that is among the nicest spots in the country is expensive. It’s great here and only reasonable to expect that you gotta pay to play
Currently 100 degrees in St george
July 23, 2021 at 5:23 PM #822592CoronitaParticipanti havent made it to st george yet, but so far my trip to the Salt Flats, West Jordan, Bryce Canyon, Zion Park has been pleasant.
But one thing. Gas prices is not cheap here. its not as expensive as San Diego, but it certainly is not cheap. Its $4 for regular, $4.20 for mid grade, 4.30 for premium roughly .. and the other thing, i dont think the octane rating for the fuel is the same. In CA , we have 87, 89, 91 octane. In Utah its 85, 88, 91…Now given that modern day cars can run lower octane fuel by simply retarding timing…usually when that happens it also lowers fuel economy and efficiency. So the savings might not be as pronounced….how much is gas right now in SD for 87 octane?
July 24, 2021 at 12:27 AM #822596DataAgentParticipantWe have 2 non-Tesla EVs and an over-sized rooftop solar array. Our solar panels power our house and both of our cars. We use net-metering and pay no monthly electric bills. We net-up in November. In November of 2020, out total electric bill for the entire year of 2020 and late 2019 was $50. I’m satisfied with a $50 annual electric bill. However, there are members of my local EV Club who spend lots of time trying to get their annual electric bill as close to $0 as possible. Their Zoom presentations bore me to log-off early.
July 24, 2021 at 7:55 AM #822597CoronitaParticipantI do like the salt flats where you can pretty much run flatout. even in a chevy tahoe…thank god its not my car though….. beautiful place.[img_assist|nid=27431|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=600|height=400]
Its been hot,but its been raining in the late afternoon too.
July 24, 2021 at 9:50 AM #822598The-ShovelerParticipantI paid $3.95 a gal at Temecula Costco yesterday (for 87).
July 24, 2021 at 1:29 PM #822600EscoguyParticipant[quote=DataAgent]We have 2 non-Tesla EVs and an over-sized rooftop solar array. Our solar panels power our house and both of our cars. We use net-metering and pay no monthly electric bills. We net-up in November. In November of 2020, out total electric bill for the entire year of 2020 and late 2019 was $50. I’m satisfied with a $50 annual electric bill. However, there are members of my local EV Club who spend lots of time trying to get their annual electric bill as close to $0 as possible. Their Zoom presentations bore me to log-off early.[/quote]
I am content with the $16 per month EVTOU5 rate which powers the house/pool and two EVs plus one plug in hybrid. Solar covers the usage. The climate credit brings the annual bill down to approx $150.
The discussion about gas prices bore me so I often go to sleep when it is discussed.
July 25, 2021 at 9:52 AM #822603scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=Escoguy][quote=DataAgent]We have 2 non-Tesla EVs and an over-sized rooftop solar array. Our solar panels power our house and both of our cars. We use net-metering and pay no monthly electric bills. We net-up in November. In November of 2020, out total electric bill for the entire year of 2020 and late 2019 was $50. I’m satisfied with a $50 annual electric bill. However, there are members of my local EV Club who spend lots of time trying to get their annual electric bill as close to $0 as possible. Their Zoom presentations bore me to log-off early.[/quote]
I am content with the $16 per month EVTOU5 rate which powers the house/pool and two EVs plus one plug in hybrid. Solar covers the usage. The climate credit brings the annual bill down to approx $150.
The discussion about gas prices bore me so I often go to sleep when it is discussed.[/quote]
Hey I just had a business idea. A gas station with way higher prices…the surplus goes to environmental remediation causes.
Fucking brilliant. It would be high status to gas up there. Middle of l.a. Instagram spot.
Gas station of the stars.
100$ a gallon. 500 a gallon for super unleaded.
Full service though. A PhD in environmental studies cleans the windshield on your ferrari.
Or maybe there are no pumps. Just Jerry cans. Your gas decanted by hand by a petroleum sommelier/engineer.
An anti gas gas station. An on staff hippie protesting fracking. Some asshole kid screaming about bicycles.
Part theatre, part gas station.
Price it so we only need 2 customers a day…
July 25, 2021 at 10:41 AM #822604anParticipantGas station can’t stay in business selling gas. They make their money from the stuff they sell inside. It’ll probably more beneficial for you to just donate the money you would have spent on the failed business idea to your favorite environmental cause charity.
July 25, 2021 at 6:58 PM #822607CoronitaParticipantUnfortunately, we got sort of lost at the Peek-A-Boo Canyons, just as the flash flood storm moved in, and it threw the rest of our trip off by a few hours (fortunately, we didnt up as the dumb missing hikers on the 6pm news) ….so we arrived at St George pretty late in the afternoon and missed the last round of Bingo at the community center…maybe next time…
[img_assist|nid=27434|title=hello|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=600|height=500]In all seriousness though, Utah is a beautiful place to hike and camp. Had a good time, especially at Zion… Definitely worth the trip.
Next time though, i should pack a GPS and a satellite phone when going to remote places…
The cell phone coverage understandably is spotty.July 25, 2021 at 9:50 PM #822608sdrealtorParticipantYes very beautiful in many parts. And I hear there is a panda express there
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