Gone with the Globalization, that is the US Middle Class

[scaredyclassic]

Gosh I feel torn. I agree with arrays but I also agree with temekuguy. Can they both be right in som way? Does it come down to how you view the proper measure of happiness societally?

[patientrenter]

[quote=sdrealtor]..I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

Grandfathers? Two generations ago? Surely they can just compare to their parents.

(I know that I could not possibly match my father’s lifestyle.)

[patientrenter]

[quote=sdrealtor]..I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

Grandfathers? Two generations ago? Surely they can just compare to their parents.

(I know that I could not possibly match my father’s lifestyle.)

[patientrenter]

[quote=sdrealtor]..I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

Grandfathers? Two generations ago? Surely they can just compare to their parents.

(I know that I could not possibly match my father’s lifestyle.)

[patientrenter]

[quote=sdrealtor]..I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

Grandfathers? Two generations ago? Surely they can just compare to their parents.

(I know that I could not possibly match my father’s lifestyle.)

[patientrenter]

[quote=sdrealtor]..I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

Grandfathers? Two generations ago? Surely they can just compare to their parents.

(I know that I could not possibly match my father’s lifestyle.)

[briansd1]

By all economic measures we, as a society, are richer than we have ever been.

But happiness is all relative. It depends on how we rate ourselves relative to our peers. I remember Walter White posting something about that before.

Globalization and the Internet has expanded the set of people we compare ourselves against.

Remember, we used to have only limited access to long distance phone calls and we watched only 3 networks channels.

While we are richer than ever, America’s share of global wealth is shrinking. People don’t “respect” us as much as they did before and that is causing us anxiety.

To relate to the thread about immigration, I see the anxiety reflected most in lower-class Whites.

It used to be that lower-class White Americans, despite their poverty, were much “superior” to others around the world. That is no more.

The Japanese, Koreans and now Chinese are buying up factories and operating businesses in the Bible belt. They are sending over hordes of managers and tourists.

Our big corporations are no longer simply American companies. They are now multinationals that derive increasing share of revenue from foreign markets and relocate to Dubai. GM now sells more cars in the China; and it’s conceivable that they will locate co-headquarters in Shanghai.

Foreign students and students, staff and faculty of all races are populating our top universities.

People speak all kinds of languages we don’t understand. Many feel like they are talking behind our backs and “plotting” against us.

Globalization has caused many Americans to feel crowded out and competed against.

But globalization has helped us all get rich.

Now we need to:
1) Spread the wealth more equally.
2) Embrace others to help them get to our standards.
3) All get richer together. Others making it doesn’t mean that we will fail.
4) Change our frame of mind. We used to be exceptional but now, we need get used to being ordinary (but still richer than we used to be).

#4 is a psychological problem because humans are wired to compare ourselves to others. Like I said, it’s all relative.

TG has a great happy attitude. As long as he can get his Chilean Seabass, iPhone, the latest toys that his grand-father never had, and steak whenever he wants, he’s happy.

[briansd1]

By all economic measures we, as a society, are richer than we have ever been.

But happiness is all relative. It depends on how we rate ourselves relative to our peers. I remember Walter White posting something about that before.

Globalization and the Internet has expanded the set of people we compare ourselves against.

Remember, we used to have only limited access to long distance phone calls and we watched only 3 networks channels.

While we are richer than ever, America’s share of global wealth is shrinking. People don’t “respect” us as much as they did before and that is causing us anxiety.

To relate to the thread about immigration, I see the anxiety reflected most in lower-class Whites.

It used to be that lower-class White Americans, despite their poverty, were much “superior” to others around the world. That is no more.

The Japanese, Koreans and now Chinese are buying up factories and operating businesses in the Bible belt. They are sending over hordes of managers and tourists.

Our big corporations are no longer simply American companies. They are now multinationals that derive increasing share of revenue from foreign markets and relocate to Dubai. GM now sells more cars in the China; and it’s conceivable that they will locate co-headquarters in Shanghai.

Foreign students and students, staff and faculty of all races are populating our top universities.

People speak all kinds of languages we don’t understand. Many feel like they are talking behind our backs and “plotting” against us.

Globalization has caused many Americans to feel crowded out and competed against.

But globalization has helped us all get rich.

Now we need to:
1) Spread the wealth more equally.
2) Embrace others to help them get to our standards.
3) All get richer together. Others making it doesn’t mean that we will fail.
4) Change our frame of mind. We used to be exceptional but now, we need get used to being ordinary (but still richer than we used to be).

#4 is a psychological problem because humans are wired to compare ourselves to others. Like I said, it’s all relative.

TG has a great happy attitude. As long as he can get his Chilean Seabass, iPhone, the latest toys that his grand-father never had, and steak whenever he wants, he’s happy.

[briansd1]

By all economic measures we, as a society, are richer than we have ever been.

But happiness is all relative. It depends on how we rate ourselves relative to our peers. I remember Walter White posting something about that before.

Globalization and the Internet has expanded the set of people we compare ourselves against.

Remember, we used to have only limited access to long distance phone calls and we watched only 3 networks channels.

While we are richer than ever, America’s share of global wealth is shrinking. People don’t “respect” us as much as they did before and that is causing us anxiety.

To relate to the thread about immigration, I see the anxiety reflected most in lower-class Whites.

It used to be that lower-class White Americans, despite their poverty, were much “superior” to others around the world. That is no more.

The Japanese, Koreans and now Chinese are buying up factories and operating businesses in the Bible belt. They are sending over hordes of managers and tourists.

Our big corporations are no longer simply American companies. They are now multinationals that derive increasing share of revenue from foreign markets and relocate to Dubai. GM now sells more cars in the China; and it’s conceivable that they will locate co-headquarters in Shanghai.

Foreign students and students, staff and faculty of all races are populating our top universities.

People speak all kinds of languages we don’t understand. Many feel like they are talking behind our backs and “plotting” against us.

Globalization has caused many Americans to feel crowded out and competed against.

But globalization has helped us all get rich.

Now we need to:
1) Spread the wealth more equally.
2) Embrace others to help them get to our standards.
3) All get richer together. Others making it doesn’t mean that we will fail.
4) Change our frame of mind. We used to be exceptional but now, we need get used to being ordinary (but still richer than we used to be).

#4 is a psychological problem because humans are wired to compare ourselves to others. Like I said, it’s all relative.

TG has a great happy attitude. As long as he can get his Chilean Seabass, iPhone, the latest toys that his grand-father never had, and steak whenever he wants, he’s happy.

[briansd1]

By all economic measures we, as a society, are richer than we have ever been.

But happiness is all relative. It depends on how we rate ourselves relative to our peers. I remember Walter White posting something about that before.

Globalization and the Internet has expanded the set of people we compare ourselves against.

Remember, we used to have only limited access to long distance phone calls and we watched only 3 networks channels.

While we are richer than ever, America’s share of global wealth is shrinking. People don’t “respect” us as much as they did before and that is causing us anxiety.

To relate to the thread about immigration, I see the anxiety reflected most in lower-class Whites.

It used to be that lower-class White Americans, despite their poverty, were much “superior” to others around the world. That is no more.

The Japanese, Koreans and now Chinese are buying up factories and operating businesses in the Bible belt. They are sending over hordes of managers and tourists.

Our big corporations are no longer simply American companies. They are now multinationals that derive increasing share of revenue from foreign markets and relocate to Dubai. GM now sells more cars in the China; and it’s conceivable that they will locate co-headquarters in Shanghai.

Foreign students and students, staff and faculty of all races are populating our top universities.

People speak all kinds of languages we don’t understand. Many feel like they are talking behind our backs and “plotting” against us.

Globalization has caused many Americans to feel crowded out and competed against.

But globalization has helped us all get rich.

Now we need to:
1) Spread the wealth more equally.
2) Embrace others to help them get to our standards.
3) All get richer together. Others making it doesn’t mean that we will fail.
4) Change our frame of mind. We used to be exceptional but now, we need get used to being ordinary (but still richer than we used to be).

#4 is a psychological problem because humans are wired to compare ourselves to others. Like I said, it’s all relative.

TG has a great happy attitude. As long as he can get his Chilean Seabass, iPhone, the latest toys that his grand-father never had, and steak whenever he wants, he’s happy.

[briansd1]

By all economic measures we, as a society, are richer than we have ever been.

But happiness is all relative. It depends on how we rate ourselves relative to our peers. I remember Walter White posting something about that before.

Globalization and the Internet has expanded the set of people we compare ourselves against.

Remember, we used to have only limited access to long distance phone calls and we watched only 3 networks channels.

While we are richer than ever, America’s share of global wealth is shrinking. People don’t “respect” us as much as they did before and that is causing us anxiety.

To relate to the thread about immigration, I see the anxiety reflected most in lower-class Whites.

It used to be that lower-class White Americans, despite their poverty, were much “superior” to others around the world. That is no more.

The Japanese, Koreans and now Chinese are buying up factories and operating businesses in the Bible belt. They are sending over hordes of managers and tourists.

Our big corporations are no longer simply American companies. They are now multinationals that derive increasing share of revenue from foreign markets and relocate to Dubai. GM now sells more cars in the China; and it’s conceivable that they will locate co-headquarters in Shanghai.

Foreign students and students, staff and faculty of all races are populating our top universities.

People speak all kinds of languages we don’t understand. Many feel like they are talking behind our backs and “plotting” against us.

Globalization has caused many Americans to feel crowded out and competed against.

But globalization has helped us all get rich.

Now we need to:
1) Spread the wealth more equally.
2) Embrace others to help them get to our standards.
3) All get richer together. Others making it doesn’t mean that we will fail.
4) Change our frame of mind. We used to be exceptional but now, we need get used to being ordinary (but still richer than we used to be).

#4 is a psychological problem because humans are wired to compare ourselves to others. Like I said, it’s all relative.

TG has a great happy attitude. As long as he can get his Chilean Seabass, iPhone, the latest toys that his grand-father never had, and steak whenever he wants, he’s happy.

[SK in CV]

[quote=sdrealtor]
I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s a material question. My grandfater was born in 1883. He escaped czarist Russia and came to the US somewhere around 1914. He spent his life as a merchant in a tiny town in the midwest. I doubt he ever considered whether he was rich or poor. He kept his wife and kids fed, but never made enough to retire. But he was almost 60 years old by the time the post WWII middle class in this country began to emerge. If somehow he’d had the financial wherewithal to participate in a middle class lifestyle, I suspect he would have declined the opportunity. Probably wouldn’t have fit in very well with his political anarchist/communist philosophies.

[SK in CV]

[quote=sdrealtor]
I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s a material question. My grandfater was born in 1883. He escaped czarist Russia and came to the US somewhere around 1914. He spent his life as a merchant in a tiny town in the midwest. I doubt he ever considered whether he was rich or poor. He kept his wife and kids fed, but never made enough to retire. But he was almost 60 years old by the time the post WWII middle class in this country began to emerge. If somehow he’d had the financial wherewithal to participate in a middle class lifestyle, I suspect he would have declined the opportunity. Probably wouldn’t have fit in very well with his political anarchist/communist philosophies.

[SK in CV]

[quote=sdrealtor]
I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s a material question. My grandfater was born in 1883. He escaped czarist Russia and came to the US somewhere around 1914. He spent his life as a merchant in a tiny town in the midwest. I doubt he ever considered whether he was rich or poor. He kept his wife and kids fed, but never made enough to retire. But he was almost 60 years old by the time the post WWII middle class in this country began to emerge. If somehow he’d had the financial wherewithal to participate in a middle class lifestyle, I suspect he would have declined the opportunity. Probably wouldn’t have fit in very well with his political anarchist/communist philosophies.

[SK in CV]

[quote=sdrealtor]
I ask the last 3 posters (Araya, patb & SK in CV) are you more successful, more educated and living a fuller life than your grand dad or are you the new underclass?[/quote]

I’m not sure that’s a material question. My grandfater was born in 1883. He escaped czarist Russia and came to the US somewhere around 1914. He spent his life as a merchant in a tiny town in the midwest. I doubt he ever considered whether he was rich or poor. He kept his wife and kids fed, but never made enough to retire. But he was almost 60 years old by the time the post WWII middle class in this country began to emerge. If somehow he’d had the financial wherewithal to participate in a middle class lifestyle, I suspect he would have declined the opportunity. Probably wouldn’t have fit in very well with his political anarchist/communist philosophies.

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