going broke on 300K/year

[davelj]

[quote=patientrenter][quote=CA renter]……I stand by my assertion that women cannot have it all, and that their income-earning capacity is absolutely **permanently** affected by having children.[/quote]

I accept that women cannot have it all. Just as men cannot. It’s really not that different.

For example, most men would like relationships with women who are physically exceptional. The desire to engage in such relationships varies over time, just as a woman’s desire to have children varies over time, but it’s quite strong.

Following through on such a desire, for a man, can dramatically reduce his future income and the time available for the things he wants – beer, cable TV, his friends, pool, golf….. just as having kids can dramatically reduce a woman’s future time and income. That’s life.[/quote]

I think it also depends on how you define “all.” I don’t want a wife or kids. So, “having it all” doesn’t include having either. Which makes it much easier to “have it all,” by my definition.

I’m not sure what your last paragraph means. Are you saying that staying single and, essentially, playing the field “can dramatically reduce his future income…” That doesn’t make any sense. I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week. But maybe I’m not interpreting your comment properly.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.

[davelj]

[quote=patientrenter][quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.[/quote]

Dating an extraordinarily hot woman is generally far cheaper than marrying a very average-looking woman. I’m sure there are exceptions but, on average, dating anyone is cheaper than marrying anyone else. Once you start co-mingling assets and, god forbid, having children, things get VERY expensive for the bread winner if a break-up ever occurs – even if we’re talking about a pretty shabby-looking woman.

The costs associated with a wedding (and honeymoon and ring, etc.), supporting a wife and kids over a period of years, and a divorce FAR outweigh the costs of expensive evenings out, the occasional bauble, and vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.

[davelj]

[quote=patientrenter][quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.[/quote]

Dating an extraordinarily hot woman is generally far cheaper than marrying a very average-looking woman. I’m sure there are exceptions but, on average, dating anyone is cheaper than marrying anyone else. Once you start co-mingling assets and, god forbid, having children, things get VERY expensive for the bread winner if a break-up ever occurs – even if we’re talking about a pretty shabby-looking woman.

The costs associated with a wedding (and honeymoon and ring, etc.), supporting a wife and kids over a period of years, and a divorce FAR outweigh the costs of expensive evenings out, the occasional bauble, and vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.

[davelj]

[quote=patientrenter][quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.[/quote]

Dating an extraordinarily hot woman is generally far cheaper than marrying a very average-looking woman. I’m sure there are exceptions but, on average, dating anyone is cheaper than marrying anyone else. Once you start co-mingling assets and, god forbid, having children, things get VERY expensive for the bread winner if a break-up ever occurs – even if we’re talking about a pretty shabby-looking woman.

The costs associated with a wedding (and honeymoon and ring, etc.), supporting a wife and kids over a period of years, and a divorce FAR outweigh the costs of expensive evenings out, the occasional bauble, and vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.

[davelj]

[quote=patientrenter][quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.[/quote]

Dating an extraordinarily hot woman is generally far cheaper than marrying a very average-looking woman. I’m sure there are exceptions but, on average, dating anyone is cheaper than marrying anyone else. Once you start co-mingling assets and, god forbid, having children, things get VERY expensive for the bread winner if a break-up ever occurs – even if we’re talking about a pretty shabby-looking woman.

The costs associated with a wedding (and honeymoon and ring, etc.), supporting a wife and kids over a period of years, and a divorce FAR outweigh the costs of expensive evenings out, the occasional bauble, and vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.

[davelj]

[quote=patientrenter][quote=davelj] ….I can assure you that marriage (and kids) is far more expensive and time consuming than staying single, even if the man is dating a different woman every week….[/quote]

I don’t doubt what you say, in general. But I was referring to the expense and time draw of dating very (physically) attractive women. Expensive with or without marriage.[/quote]

Dating an extraordinarily hot woman is generally far cheaper than marrying a very average-looking woman. I’m sure there are exceptions but, on average, dating anyone is cheaper than marrying anyone else. Once you start co-mingling assets and, god forbid, having children, things get VERY expensive for the bread winner if a break-up ever occurs – even if we’re talking about a pretty shabby-looking woman.

The costs associated with a wedding (and honeymoon and ring, etc.), supporting a wife and kids over a period of years, and a divorce FAR outweigh the costs of expensive evenings out, the occasional bauble, and vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj]….vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.[/quote]

LoL! I hope you enjoyed the bikini. Well, I agree with your analysis of the relative cost of marriage vs dating from the guy’s PoV. Marriage is like the fixed-price union contract for half of the population. I’m not saying unions don’t have a place, just drawing an analogy.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj]….vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.[/quote]

LoL! I hope you enjoyed the bikini. Well, I agree with your analysis of the relative cost of marriage vs dating from the guy’s PoV. Marriage is like the fixed-price union contract for half of the population. I’m not saying unions don’t have a place, just drawing an analogy.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj]….vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.[/quote]

LoL! I hope you enjoyed the bikini. Well, I agree with your analysis of the relative cost of marriage vs dating from the guy’s PoV. Marriage is like the fixed-price union contract for half of the population. I’m not saying unions don’t have a place, just drawing an analogy.

[patientrenter]

[quote=davelj]….vacations to Montserrat associated with that hot 24-year old that won the bikini contest at the Baja 1000. Trust me on this one.[/quote]

LoL! I hope you enjoyed the bikini. Well, I agree with your analysis of the relative cost of marriage vs dating from the guy’s PoV. Marriage is like the fixed-price union contract for half of the population. I’m not saying unions don’t have a place, just drawing an analogy.

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