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May 19, 2008 at 7:07 PM #207991May 19, 2008 at 7:09 PM #207858Mark HolmesParticipant
atr, thank you.
You actually said that quite eloquently.
May 19, 2008 at 7:09 PM #207915Mark HolmesParticipantatr, thank you.
You actually said that quite eloquently.
May 19, 2008 at 7:09 PM #207947Mark HolmesParticipantatr, thank you.
You actually said that quite eloquently.
May 19, 2008 at 7:09 PM #207971Mark HolmesParticipantatr, thank you.
You actually said that quite eloquently.
May 19, 2008 at 7:09 PM #208001Mark HolmesParticipantatr, thank you.
You actually said that quite eloquently.
May 19, 2008 at 8:42 PM #207913atrParticipantHappy news for George Takei. . . Sulu for those of you that aren’t Trekkies like me!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/9db5152b_d2eb4c57_a577_5fe4fadaff1a
May 19, 2008 at 8:42 PM #207970atrParticipantHappy news for George Takei. . . Sulu for those of you that aren’t Trekkies like me!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/9db5152b_d2eb4c57_a577_5fe4fadaff1a
May 19, 2008 at 8:42 PM #208002atrParticipantHappy news for George Takei. . . Sulu for those of you that aren’t Trekkies like me!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/9db5152b_d2eb4c57_a577_5fe4fadaff1a
May 19, 2008 at 8:42 PM #208026atrParticipantHappy news for George Takei. . . Sulu for those of you that aren’t Trekkies like me!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/9db5152b_d2eb4c57_a577_5fe4fadaff1a
May 19, 2008 at 8:42 PM #208055atrParticipantHappy news for George Takei. . . Sulu for those of you that aren’t Trekkies like me!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/9db5152b_d2eb4c57_a577_5fe4fadaff1a
May 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM #207983HarryBoschParticipantThe word “should”.
In my earlier years I used to say people should be this way or they “should” be that way or people shouldn’t do this or do that … until someone pointed out to me that people “should” not be or say what I think they “should” be or say.
(If that is true for all individuals, then if you and I are individuals, then it is true for both of us.)
It forced me to think about the word “should”, when it is used and what is behind the word “should”. When you say that people “… don’t have to like it, but legally, they should be entitled to it.” you are saying that based on YOUR MORALS, YOUR SENSE OF MORALITY “…they should be entitled to it.”
So you are really saying that based on YOUR MORALITY they “should” be (legally) entitled to it.
Tell me why “should” your MORALITY override my MORALITY? Legally? Anymore than mine should override yours?
I ask this not to be offensive or rude but just to point out that more thought needs to be put into this topic. To be honest, I struggle for a real answer and not just an answer that is an emotional reflex.
May 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM #208039HarryBoschParticipantThe word “should”.
In my earlier years I used to say people should be this way or they “should” be that way or people shouldn’t do this or do that … until someone pointed out to me that people “should” not be or say what I think they “should” be or say.
(If that is true for all individuals, then if you and I are individuals, then it is true for both of us.)
It forced me to think about the word “should”, when it is used and what is behind the word “should”. When you say that people “… don’t have to like it, but legally, they should be entitled to it.” you are saying that based on YOUR MORALS, YOUR SENSE OF MORALITY “…they should be entitled to it.”
So you are really saying that based on YOUR MORALITY they “should” be (legally) entitled to it.
Tell me why “should” your MORALITY override my MORALITY? Legally? Anymore than mine should override yours?
I ask this not to be offensive or rude but just to point out that more thought needs to be put into this topic. To be honest, I struggle for a real answer and not just an answer that is an emotional reflex.
May 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM #208070HarryBoschParticipantThe word “should”.
In my earlier years I used to say people should be this way or they “should” be that way or people shouldn’t do this or do that … until someone pointed out to me that people “should” not be or say what I think they “should” be or say.
(If that is true for all individuals, then if you and I are individuals, then it is true for both of us.)
It forced me to think about the word “should”, when it is used and what is behind the word “should”. When you say that people “… don’t have to like it, but legally, they should be entitled to it.” you are saying that based on YOUR MORALS, YOUR SENSE OF MORALITY “…they should be entitled to it.”
So you are really saying that based on YOUR MORALITY they “should” be (legally) entitled to it.
Tell me why “should” your MORALITY override my MORALITY? Legally? Anymore than mine should override yours?
I ask this not to be offensive or rude but just to point out that more thought needs to be put into this topic. To be honest, I struggle for a real answer and not just an answer that is an emotional reflex.
May 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM #208095HarryBoschParticipantThe word “should”.
In my earlier years I used to say people should be this way or they “should” be that way or people shouldn’t do this or do that … until someone pointed out to me that people “should” not be or say what I think they “should” be or say.
(If that is true for all individuals, then if you and I are individuals, then it is true for both of us.)
It forced me to think about the word “should”, when it is used and what is behind the word “should”. When you say that people “… don’t have to like it, but legally, they should be entitled to it.” you are saying that based on YOUR MORALS, YOUR SENSE OF MORALITY “…they should be entitled to it.”
So you are really saying that based on YOUR MORALITY they “should” be (legally) entitled to it.
Tell me why “should” your MORALITY override my MORALITY? Legally? Anymore than mine should override yours?
I ask this not to be offensive or rude but just to point out that more thought needs to be put into this topic. To be honest, I struggle for a real answer and not just an answer that is an emotional reflex.
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