Gay Marriage Ruling

[beanmaestro]

Well, if gay marriage and interracial marriage rulings are any example, polygamy might well become legal when about 40% of people approve of the practice. That sort of large minority isn’t happening right now, except maybe in Utah where they were forced to write a ban into their original constitution.

Realize for a moment, though, that polygamy laws come from the dominant culture. We may find it distateful, but polygamy is legal in the Muslim world because their religion allows it. It used to be legal in pre-state Utah beecause their religion allowed it. I think our problem with polygamy isn’t hippie triads living in San Francisco and abusing Vaseline, but cultures where women are bred to be property.

[Anonymous]

Mark, I understand why you want what you want. for your own reasons it’s important to you, whether anyone else agrees with legalizing gay marriage or not.

What do you think about Brutus’ point though? If gay marriage is allowed to remain legalized in this state and any other, what’s to stop polygamy and anything else people feel should be legalized and sanctioned by the government. What do I tell my sons when they ask me “Mommy, why is that man allowed to have 5 wives?”? When they see that it’s sanctioned by society and becoming commonplace, how do I feel when it’s something they start thinking they should do too.

Like I said before, even though I don’t agree with the lifestyle, I’m don’t stand in judgement on anyone who is a homosexual. However, that doesn’t mean I approve of gay marriages being legalized.

Mark, I sympathize with you. I don’t want to see anyone in angst. However, to a lot of people, it’s not about sympathy. Like I posted above, there are other considerations.

[Anonymous]

Mark, I understand why you want what you want. for your own reasons it’s important to you, whether anyone else agrees with legalizing gay marriage or not.

What do you think about Brutus’ point though? If gay marriage is allowed to remain legalized in this state and any other, what’s to stop polygamy and anything else people feel should be legalized and sanctioned by the government. What do I tell my sons when they ask me “Mommy, why is that man allowed to have 5 wives?”? When they see that it’s sanctioned by society and becoming commonplace, how do I feel when it’s something they start thinking they should do too.

Like I said before, even though I don’t agree with the lifestyle, I’m don’t stand in judgement on anyone who is a homosexual. However, that doesn’t mean I approve of gay marriages being legalized.

Mark, I sympathize with you. I don’t want to see anyone in angst. However, to a lot of people, it’s not about sympathy. Like I posted above, there are other considerations.

[Anonymous]

Mark, I understand why you want what you want. for your own reasons it’s important to you, whether anyone else agrees with legalizing gay marriage or not.

What do you think about Brutus’ point though? If gay marriage is allowed to remain legalized in this state and any other, what’s to stop polygamy and anything else people feel should be legalized and sanctioned by the government. What do I tell my sons when they ask me “Mommy, why is that man allowed to have 5 wives?”? When they see that it’s sanctioned by society and becoming commonplace, how do I feel when it’s something they start thinking they should do too.

Like I said before, even though I don’t agree with the lifestyle, I’m don’t stand in judgement on anyone who is a homosexual. However, that doesn’t mean I approve of gay marriages being legalized.

Mark, I sympathize with you. I don’t want to see anyone in angst. However, to a lot of people, it’s not about sympathy. Like I posted above, there are other considerations.

[Anonymous]

Mark, I understand why you want what you want. for your own reasons it’s important to you, whether anyone else agrees with legalizing gay marriage or not.

What do you think about Brutus’ point though? If gay marriage is allowed to remain legalized in this state and any other, what’s to stop polygamy and anything else people feel should be legalized and sanctioned by the government. What do I tell my sons when they ask me “Mommy, why is that man allowed to have 5 wives?”? When they see that it’s sanctioned by society and becoming commonplace, how do I feel when it’s something they start thinking they should do too.

Like I said before, even though I don’t agree with the lifestyle, I’m don’t stand in judgement on anyone who is a homosexual. However, that doesn’t mean I approve of gay marriages being legalized.

Mark, I sympathize with you. I don’t want to see anyone in angst. However, to a lot of people, it’s not about sympathy. Like I posted above, there are other considerations.

[Anonymous]

Mark, I understand why you want what you want. for your own reasons it’s important to you, whether anyone else agrees with legalizing gay marriage or not.

What do you think about Brutus’ point though? If gay marriage is allowed to remain legalized in this state and any other, what’s to stop polygamy and anything else people feel should be legalized and sanctioned by the government. What do I tell my sons when they ask me “Mommy, why is that man allowed to have 5 wives?”? When they see that it’s sanctioned by society and becoming commonplace, how do I feel when it’s something they start thinking they should do too.

Like I said before, even though I don’t agree with the lifestyle, I’m don’t stand in judgement on anyone who is a homosexual. However, that doesn’t mean I approve of gay marriages being legalized.

Mark, I sympathize with you. I don’t want to see anyone in angst. However, to a lot of people, it’s not about sympathy. Like I posted above, there are other considerations.

[beanmaestro]

Marion,

I think the answer is that polygamy is well outside the framework of marriage. It’s not hard to see how a white guy and a black woman can have a normal marriage. I think there are ample examples that a gay couple can have as close to a normal marriage as possible without opposite plumbing; controversy aside, it’s become rather commonplace.

On the other hand, polygamy in the US is neither common place, ethically acceptable (by which I mean “is it OK if the boss knows?”; the gay engineers I work with don’t advertise, but they do have family pics up), nor does it map (legally or taxably) onto the way marriage works now. It opens so many cans of worms (partial divorce, child custody, rewriting tax codes) that it can’t easily be done without extreme legislative intervention. It’s also much harder/impossible to frame as a civil rights/discrimination issue since polygamy is rather indisputably a choice.

All that said, I do have to ask, why is polygamy indisputably wrong? Polygamy and polyandry have been practiced by dozens of cultures throughout history. The groups favoring it now tend to subjugate their women, but it’s not clear to me that this is a necessary flaw. It’s also not clear to me that I want government regulating this sort of thing… as was pointed out above, just because I’m a white, straight, married American male doesn’t mean I will always be on the right side of public tyranny.

[beanmaestro]

Marion,

I think the answer is that polygamy is well outside the framework of marriage. It’s not hard to see how a white guy and a black woman can have a normal marriage. I think there are ample examples that a gay couple can have as close to a normal marriage as possible without opposite plumbing; controversy aside, it’s become rather commonplace.

On the other hand, polygamy in the US is neither common place, ethically acceptable (by which I mean “is it OK if the boss knows?”; the gay engineers I work with don’t advertise, but they do have family pics up), nor does it map (legally or taxably) onto the way marriage works now. It opens so many cans of worms (partial divorce, child custody, rewriting tax codes) that it can’t easily be done without extreme legislative intervention. It’s also much harder/impossible to frame as a civil rights/discrimination issue since polygamy is rather indisputably a choice.

All that said, I do have to ask, why is polygamy indisputably wrong? Polygamy and polyandry have been practiced by dozens of cultures throughout history. The groups favoring it now tend to subjugate their women, but it’s not clear to me that this is a necessary flaw. It’s also not clear to me that I want government regulating this sort of thing… as was pointed out above, just because I’m a white, straight, married American male doesn’t mean I will always be on the right side of public tyranny.

[beanmaestro]

Marion,

I think the answer is that polygamy is well outside the framework of marriage. It’s not hard to see how a white guy and a black woman can have a normal marriage. I think there are ample examples that a gay couple can have as close to a normal marriage as possible without opposite plumbing; controversy aside, it’s become rather commonplace.

On the other hand, polygamy in the US is neither common place, ethically acceptable (by which I mean “is it OK if the boss knows?”; the gay engineers I work with don’t advertise, but they do have family pics up), nor does it map (legally or taxably) onto the way marriage works now. It opens so many cans of worms (partial divorce, child custody, rewriting tax codes) that it can’t easily be done without extreme legislative intervention. It’s also much harder/impossible to frame as a civil rights/discrimination issue since polygamy is rather indisputably a choice.

All that said, I do have to ask, why is polygamy indisputably wrong? Polygamy and polyandry have been practiced by dozens of cultures throughout history. The groups favoring it now tend to subjugate their women, but it’s not clear to me that this is a necessary flaw. It’s also not clear to me that I want government regulating this sort of thing… as was pointed out above, just because I’m a white, straight, married American male doesn’t mean I will always be on the right side of public tyranny.

[beanmaestro]

Marion,

I think the answer is that polygamy is well outside the framework of marriage. It’s not hard to see how a white guy and a black woman can have a normal marriage. I think there are ample examples that a gay couple can have as close to a normal marriage as possible without opposite plumbing; controversy aside, it’s become rather commonplace.

On the other hand, polygamy in the US is neither common place, ethically acceptable (by which I mean “is it OK if the boss knows?”; the gay engineers I work with don’t advertise, but they do have family pics up), nor does it map (legally or taxably) onto the way marriage works now. It opens so many cans of worms (partial divorce, child custody, rewriting tax codes) that it can’t easily be done without extreme legislative intervention. It’s also much harder/impossible to frame as a civil rights/discrimination issue since polygamy is rather indisputably a choice.

All that said, I do have to ask, why is polygamy indisputably wrong? Polygamy and polyandry have been practiced by dozens of cultures throughout history. The groups favoring it now tend to subjugate their women, but it’s not clear to me that this is a necessary flaw. It’s also not clear to me that I want government regulating this sort of thing… as was pointed out above, just because I’m a white, straight, married American male doesn’t mean I will always be on the right side of public tyranny.

[beanmaestro]

Marion,

I think the answer is that polygamy is well outside the framework of marriage. It’s not hard to see how a white guy and a black woman can have a normal marriage. I think there are ample examples that a gay couple can have as close to a normal marriage as possible without opposite plumbing; controversy aside, it’s become rather commonplace.

On the other hand, polygamy in the US is neither common place, ethically acceptable (by which I mean “is it OK if the boss knows?”; the gay engineers I work with don’t advertise, but they do have family pics up), nor does it map (legally or taxably) onto the way marriage works now. It opens so many cans of worms (partial divorce, child custody, rewriting tax codes) that it can’t easily be done without extreme legislative intervention. It’s also much harder/impossible to frame as a civil rights/discrimination issue since polygamy is rather indisputably a choice.

All that said, I do have to ask, why is polygamy indisputably wrong? Polygamy and polyandry have been practiced by dozens of cultures throughout history. The groups favoring it now tend to subjugate their women, but it’s not clear to me that this is a necessary flaw. It’s also not clear to me that I want government regulating this sort of thing… as was pointed out above, just because I’m a white, straight, married American male doesn’t mean I will always be on the right side of public tyranny.

[Dukehorn]

Brutus,

Let’s flip the polygamy argument. I’ll give you the gay marriage point once we outlaw divorces, masturbation, anal sex and oral sex. I mean to a certain extent all of the above are considered deviant by our Moral Majority, right? So once you stop yanking your chain, I’ll start worrying about other people’s sex lives.

[Dukehorn]

Brutus,

Let’s flip the polygamy argument. I’ll give you the gay marriage point once we outlaw divorces, masturbation, anal sex and oral sex. I mean to a certain extent all of the above are considered deviant by our Moral Majority, right? So once you stop yanking your chain, I’ll start worrying about other people’s sex lives.

[Dukehorn]

Brutus,

Let’s flip the polygamy argument. I’ll give you the gay marriage point once we outlaw divorces, masturbation, anal sex and oral sex. I mean to a certain extent all of the above are considered deviant by our Moral Majority, right? So once you stop yanking your chain, I’ll start worrying about other people’s sex lives.

[Dukehorn]

Brutus,

Let’s flip the polygamy argument. I’ll give you the gay marriage point once we outlaw divorces, masturbation, anal sex and oral sex. I mean to a certain extent all of the above are considered deviant by our Moral Majority, right? So once you stop yanking your chain, I’ll start worrying about other people’s sex lives.

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