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October 10, 2008 at 12:42 PM #285552October 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM #285219CoronitaParticipant
[quote=peterb]Could be a short term bottom. Anyone who doesnt think we’re not heading for a depression, isnt listening to what’s out in the real economy.
I’ve never heard so many people either worried about keeping their job or they havnt been able to find one in the last 6 months. These are attorneys, software guys and other professionals. Well connected and with good track records.[/quote]Oh, i don’t doubt the downturn. Just wondering how bad at this point…
October 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM #285510CoronitaParticipant[quote=peterb]Could be a short term bottom. Anyone who doesnt think we’re not heading for a depression, isnt listening to what’s out in the real economy.
I’ve never heard so many people either worried about keeping their job or they havnt been able to find one in the last 6 months. These are attorneys, software guys and other professionals. Well connected and with good track records.[/quote]Oh, i don’t doubt the downturn. Just wondering how bad at this point…
October 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM #285531CoronitaParticipant[quote=peterb]Could be a short term bottom. Anyone who doesnt think we’re not heading for a depression, isnt listening to what’s out in the real economy.
I’ve never heard so many people either worried about keeping their job or they havnt been able to find one in the last 6 months. These are attorneys, software guys and other professionals. Well connected and with good track records.[/quote]Oh, i don’t doubt the downturn. Just wondering how bad at this point…
October 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM #285553CoronitaParticipant[quote=peterb]Could be a short term bottom. Anyone who doesnt think we’re not heading for a depression, isnt listening to what’s out in the real economy.
I’ve never heard so many people either worried about keeping their job or they havnt been able to find one in the last 6 months. These are attorneys, software guys and other professionals. Well connected and with good track records.[/quote]Oh, i don’t doubt the downturn. Just wondering how bad at this point…
October 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM #285562CoronitaParticipant[quote=peterb]Could be a short term bottom. Anyone who doesnt think we’re not heading for a depression, isnt listening to what’s out in the real economy.
I’ve never heard so many people either worried about keeping their job or they havnt been able to find one in the last 6 months. These are attorneys, software guys and other professionals. Well connected and with good track records.[/quote]Oh, i don’t doubt the downturn. Just wondering how bad at this point…
October 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM #285224CoronitaParticipant[quote=stockstradr]I rarely see something I think is an investment sure to pay off very well, meaning very low risk. I spotted a few today and so here are a few gems I bought today to hold long for at least five years. I’m not claiming you’ll make money on these during the recession, but once the economy starts to recover these should do really well.
I like the Chinese oil stocks because they have fallen to 5X to 8X (trailing) earnings. I like Brazil’s Petrobas because Brazil has announced a new major oil find off their coast, and PBR is still trading down at 8X earnings.
PBR: PETROLEO BRASILEIRO SA PETROBRAS SPONS ADR
PTR : PETROCHINA CO LTD
SHI : SINOPEC SHANGHAI PETROCHEMICAL SPON ADR
CEO : CNOOC LTD SPONSORED ADR
Now these below I also bought, but I’m not ready to claim them as “sure bets.”
My favorite of these is the iShares FXI. The Shanghai exchange fell to 1900 last night. It is difficult to imagine it could go much lower than say 1500. So I believe China stocks are now incredibly inexpensive. So is Japan, but who knows what’s going to happen next there! for God sake, Japan’s stocks fell another 10% yesterday.
CHL: China Mobile
FXI: ISHARES TR FTSE XINHUA HK CHINA 25 INDEX
JSC: SPDR RUSSELL/NOMURA SMALL CAP JAPAN ETF
Now, you wanna gamble with some pocket change?
Today you can buy Goldman Sachs much cheaper than what the world’s greatest investor (Warren Buffet) paid for it. Buffet knows that Paulson has 700B now to play with (of our money), and Paulson’s buddies over at Goldman Sachs (where he was once CEO) are going to get a lot of that 700B. This is a stock that was $250/share only a year ago
[/quote]I prefer to gamble on GE, again bought much cheaper than Buffett paid, considering it has a well diversified business from jet engines, to NBC, to financial arm (that’s getting trashed)… Don’t know, will let you know in 5 years.
October 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM #285515CoronitaParticipant[quote=stockstradr]I rarely see something I think is an investment sure to pay off very well, meaning very low risk. I spotted a few today and so here are a few gems I bought today to hold long for at least five years. I’m not claiming you’ll make money on these during the recession, but once the economy starts to recover these should do really well.
I like the Chinese oil stocks because they have fallen to 5X to 8X (trailing) earnings. I like Brazil’s Petrobas because Brazil has announced a new major oil find off their coast, and PBR is still trading down at 8X earnings.
PBR: PETROLEO BRASILEIRO SA PETROBRAS SPONS ADR
PTR : PETROCHINA CO LTD
SHI : SINOPEC SHANGHAI PETROCHEMICAL SPON ADR
CEO : CNOOC LTD SPONSORED ADR
Now these below I also bought, but I’m not ready to claim them as “sure bets.”
My favorite of these is the iShares FXI. The Shanghai exchange fell to 1900 last night. It is difficult to imagine it could go much lower than say 1500. So I believe China stocks are now incredibly inexpensive. So is Japan, but who knows what’s going to happen next there! for God sake, Japan’s stocks fell another 10% yesterday.
CHL: China Mobile
FXI: ISHARES TR FTSE XINHUA HK CHINA 25 INDEX
JSC: SPDR RUSSELL/NOMURA SMALL CAP JAPAN ETF
Now, you wanna gamble with some pocket change?
Today you can buy Goldman Sachs much cheaper than what the world’s greatest investor (Warren Buffet) paid for it. Buffet knows that Paulson has 700B now to play with (of our money), and Paulson’s buddies over at Goldman Sachs (where he was once CEO) are going to get a lot of that 700B. This is a stock that was $250/share only a year ago
[/quote]I prefer to gamble on GE, again bought much cheaper than Buffett paid, considering it has a well diversified business from jet engines, to NBC, to financial arm (that’s getting trashed)… Don’t know, will let you know in 5 years.
October 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM #285536CoronitaParticipant[quote=stockstradr]I rarely see something I think is an investment sure to pay off very well, meaning very low risk. I spotted a few today and so here are a few gems I bought today to hold long for at least five years. I’m not claiming you’ll make money on these during the recession, but once the economy starts to recover these should do really well.
I like the Chinese oil stocks because they have fallen to 5X to 8X (trailing) earnings. I like Brazil’s Petrobas because Brazil has announced a new major oil find off their coast, and PBR is still trading down at 8X earnings.
PBR: PETROLEO BRASILEIRO SA PETROBRAS SPONS ADR
PTR : PETROCHINA CO LTD
SHI : SINOPEC SHANGHAI PETROCHEMICAL SPON ADR
CEO : CNOOC LTD SPONSORED ADR
Now these below I also bought, but I’m not ready to claim them as “sure bets.”
My favorite of these is the iShares FXI. The Shanghai exchange fell to 1900 last night. It is difficult to imagine it could go much lower than say 1500. So I believe China stocks are now incredibly inexpensive. So is Japan, but who knows what’s going to happen next there! for God sake, Japan’s stocks fell another 10% yesterday.
CHL: China Mobile
FXI: ISHARES TR FTSE XINHUA HK CHINA 25 INDEX
JSC: SPDR RUSSELL/NOMURA SMALL CAP JAPAN ETF
Now, you wanna gamble with some pocket change?
Today you can buy Goldman Sachs much cheaper than what the world’s greatest investor (Warren Buffet) paid for it. Buffet knows that Paulson has 700B now to play with (of our money), and Paulson’s buddies over at Goldman Sachs (where he was once CEO) are going to get a lot of that 700B. This is a stock that was $250/share only a year ago
[/quote]I prefer to gamble on GE, again bought much cheaper than Buffett paid, considering it has a well diversified business from jet engines, to NBC, to financial arm (that’s getting trashed)… Don’t know, will let you know in 5 years.
October 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM #285558CoronitaParticipant[quote=stockstradr]I rarely see something I think is an investment sure to pay off very well, meaning very low risk. I spotted a few today and so here are a few gems I bought today to hold long for at least five years. I’m not claiming you’ll make money on these during the recession, but once the economy starts to recover these should do really well.
I like the Chinese oil stocks because they have fallen to 5X to 8X (trailing) earnings. I like Brazil’s Petrobas because Brazil has announced a new major oil find off their coast, and PBR is still trading down at 8X earnings.
PBR: PETROLEO BRASILEIRO SA PETROBRAS SPONS ADR
PTR : PETROCHINA CO LTD
SHI : SINOPEC SHANGHAI PETROCHEMICAL SPON ADR
CEO : CNOOC LTD SPONSORED ADR
Now these below I also bought, but I’m not ready to claim them as “sure bets.”
My favorite of these is the iShares FXI. The Shanghai exchange fell to 1900 last night. It is difficult to imagine it could go much lower than say 1500. So I believe China stocks are now incredibly inexpensive. So is Japan, but who knows what’s going to happen next there! for God sake, Japan’s stocks fell another 10% yesterday.
CHL: China Mobile
FXI: ISHARES TR FTSE XINHUA HK CHINA 25 INDEX
JSC: SPDR RUSSELL/NOMURA SMALL CAP JAPAN ETF
Now, you wanna gamble with some pocket change?
Today you can buy Goldman Sachs much cheaper than what the world’s greatest investor (Warren Buffet) paid for it. Buffet knows that Paulson has 700B now to play with (of our money), and Paulson’s buddies over at Goldman Sachs (where he was once CEO) are going to get a lot of that 700B. This is a stock that was $250/share only a year ago
[/quote]I prefer to gamble on GE, again bought much cheaper than Buffett paid, considering it has a well diversified business from jet engines, to NBC, to financial arm (that’s getting trashed)… Don’t know, will let you know in 5 years.
October 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM #285567CoronitaParticipant[quote=stockstradr]I rarely see something I think is an investment sure to pay off very well, meaning very low risk. I spotted a few today and so here are a few gems I bought today to hold long for at least five years. I’m not claiming you’ll make money on these during the recession, but once the economy starts to recover these should do really well.
I like the Chinese oil stocks because they have fallen to 5X to 8X (trailing) earnings. I like Brazil’s Petrobas because Brazil has announced a new major oil find off their coast, and PBR is still trading down at 8X earnings.
PBR: PETROLEO BRASILEIRO SA PETROBRAS SPONS ADR
PTR : PETROCHINA CO LTD
SHI : SINOPEC SHANGHAI PETROCHEMICAL SPON ADR
CEO : CNOOC LTD SPONSORED ADR
Now these below I also bought, but I’m not ready to claim them as “sure bets.”
My favorite of these is the iShares FXI. The Shanghai exchange fell to 1900 last night. It is difficult to imagine it could go much lower than say 1500. So I believe China stocks are now incredibly inexpensive. So is Japan, but who knows what’s going to happen next there! for God sake, Japan’s stocks fell another 10% yesterday.
CHL: China Mobile
FXI: ISHARES TR FTSE XINHUA HK CHINA 25 INDEX
JSC: SPDR RUSSELL/NOMURA SMALL CAP JAPAN ETF
Now, you wanna gamble with some pocket change?
Today you can buy Goldman Sachs much cheaper than what the world’s greatest investor (Warren Buffet) paid for it. Buffet knows that Paulson has 700B now to play with (of our money), and Paulson’s buddies over at Goldman Sachs (where he was once CEO) are going to get a lot of that 700B. This is a stock that was $250/share only a year ago
[/quote]I prefer to gamble on GE, again bought much cheaper than Buffett paid, considering it has a well diversified business from jet engines, to NBC, to financial arm (that’s getting trashed)… Don’t know, will let you know in 5 years.
October 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM #285260peterbParticipantWe had a global rate cut this week. The DOW is at 8500 from 14,000. Credit markets are locking up. Lay-offs are being announced and I’m hearing more about “silent rifs” in big companies…more expense restrictions as well.
The market almost always leads the economy. We’ve been in a recession since January. All the BLS stats are govt lies. This crash has legs and they are growing longer every day.It’s a global melt-down. The panic we’re seeing from all govt’s is about keeping this thing from a free fall. Not stopping it. Going long now is a real gamble. And I’ve dealt with Brazil, be very careful of anything they say!!October 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM #285550peterbParticipantWe had a global rate cut this week. The DOW is at 8500 from 14,000. Credit markets are locking up. Lay-offs are being announced and I’m hearing more about “silent rifs” in big companies…more expense restrictions as well.
The market almost always leads the economy. We’ve been in a recession since January. All the BLS stats are govt lies. This crash has legs and they are growing longer every day.It’s a global melt-down. The panic we’re seeing from all govt’s is about keeping this thing from a free fall. Not stopping it. Going long now is a real gamble. And I’ve dealt with Brazil, be very careful of anything they say!!October 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM #285571peterbParticipantWe had a global rate cut this week. The DOW is at 8500 from 14,000. Credit markets are locking up. Lay-offs are being announced and I’m hearing more about “silent rifs” in big companies…more expense restrictions as well.
The market almost always leads the economy. We’ve been in a recession since January. All the BLS stats are govt lies. This crash has legs and they are growing longer every day.It’s a global melt-down. The panic we’re seeing from all govt’s is about keeping this thing from a free fall. Not stopping it. Going long now is a real gamble. And I’ve dealt with Brazil, be very careful of anything they say!!October 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM #285593peterbParticipantWe had a global rate cut this week. The DOW is at 8500 from 14,000. Credit markets are locking up. Lay-offs are being announced and I’m hearing more about “silent rifs” in big companies…more expense restrictions as well.
The market almost always leads the economy. We’ve been in a recession since January. All the BLS stats are govt lies. This crash has legs and they are growing longer every day.It’s a global melt-down. The panic we’re seeing from all govt’s is about keeping this thing from a free fall. Not stopping it. Going long now is a real gamble. And I’ve dealt with Brazil, be very careful of anything they say!! -
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